Re: [IxDA Discuss] Manifesto of the UI - A UI Developer's POV
On 1 Feb 2008, at 08:18, dave malouf wrote: Luis, I think Adrian was being flippant about the whole UI vs. IxD thread. Maybe they just call it UI Design and they think of all the aspects of IxD to be included there. [snip] Mildly flippant - yes :-) Just because somebody doesn't label themselves as doing IxD doesn't mean they're not doing all the things that folk on this list mean when they say IxD, doing them consciously, and doing them well. Adrian *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Manifesto of the UI - A UI Developer's POV
On 1 Feb 2008, at 14:29, W Evans wrote: It just highlights to me this notion of people are doing interaction design without knowing they are doing it. Absolutely. When I just read that - I was reminded of something Dan S. wrote in the first chapter of Designing for Interfaces that argued that exact same point. People who don't even know what interaction design is - are thinking about and doing interaction design - some very competently. [snip] Possibly they know what it is - but just don't call it Interaction Design :-) Adrian *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Manifesto of the UI - A UI Developer's POV
On Feb 1, 2008 9:29 AM, W Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And from a previous conversation about IxD versus ID, I want to ecco Mark Schraad's comment that a lot of that discussion/definitions is also handed pretty eloquently by Mssr. Saffer. If any of you haven't read it - shame on you! Seriously - it's worth the $$ to pick it up - because he delves into all these things that we discuss everyday. Designing for Interaction: Creating Smart Applications and Clever Devices, Dan Saffer.http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Interaction-Creating-Applications-Devices/dp/0321432061/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5955180-9985634?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1187801868sr=1-1 *http://tinyurl.com/2mk3cg * Maybe we can convince Mr. Saffer to sign a few copies at Interaction08 next week. That book and others by speakers, attendees and others will be available in the conference exhibition area. -- dave -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Manifesto of the UI - A UI Developer's POV
http://tinyurl.com/ysxtyg Hi guys, the above link is to a blog post by a UI Developer blogger. Lots of what he is talking about is the stuff that we talk about. It just highlights to me this notion of people are doing interaction design without knowing they are doing it. Just great! And a much bigger community than we are. Anyway, it is good to see how others view UI/IxD and how they talk about it from their perspective. I think some of his insights are pretty relevant. -- dave -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Manifesto of the UI - A UI Developer's POV
It just highlights to me this notion of people are doing interaction design without knowing they are doing it. Absolutely. When I just read that - I was reminded of something Dan S. wrote in the first chapter of Designing for Interfaces that argued that exact same point. People who don't even know what interaction design is - are thinking about and doing interaction design - some very competently. And from a previous conversation about IxD versus ID, I want to ecco Mark Schraad's comment that a lot of that discussion/definitions is also handed pretty eloquently by Mssr. Saffer. If any of you haven't read it - shame on you! Seriously - it's worth the $$ to pick it up - because he delves into all these things that we discuss everyday. Designing for Interaction: Creating Smart Applications and Clever Devices, Dan Saffer.http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Interaction-Creating-Applications-Devices/dp/0321432061/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5955180-9985634?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1187801868sr=1-1 *http://tinyurl.com/2mk3cg - *On an unrelated note - I do like what he has to say about CSS/WPF*: ***I am confident that CSS is an excellent technology for typography, however after using Flex and WPF I am not convinced that it will ever translate into a full-on styling engine. Using real-time vectors, gradients, and animations is something that a styling engine needs to support: and it's something that CSS simply is not made to handle. -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems --- will evans user experience architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Feb 1, 2008 8:57 AM, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ysxtyg Hi guys, the above link is to a blog post by a UI Developer blogger. Lots of what he is talking about is the stuff that we talk about. It just highlights to me this notion of people are doing interaction design without knowing they are doing it. Just great! And a much bigger community than we are. Anyway, it is good to see how others view UI/IxD and how they talk about it from their perspective. I think some of his insights are pretty relevant. -- dave -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Manifesto of the UI - A UI Developer's POV
...Using real-time vectors, gradients, and animations is something that a styling engine needs to support: and it's something that CSS simply is not made to handle. That's an unfortunate statement massively ignorant of technical facts, computer screen display basics and the current state of CSS. I touch just the tip of it here: Runtime wars (2): Apple's answer to Flash, Silverlight and JavaFX http://counternotions.com/2007/11/15/apple-runtime-answer-2/ -- Kontra http://counternotions.com *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
