Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shift from Legacy system to web UI interface application

2008-03-01 Thread Rony Philip
Hi Trip,

Thanks a lot for your inputs and I cudn't agree more on what you have
mentioned. Its really important to conduct a contextual study to understand
the users and their environment. Plus understand the strategy or business
logic behind the change from legacy to web.

With respect to this application, currently the development team has created
the following. The application is a data entry form, where the first page is
a table list with data rows. When users need to view/edit one or multiple
rows, they can select the rows and click view/edit. This will open up the
view/edit form for the first selected row and once finished the user clicks
next it will got to the next page and so on.

Thanks again,
Rony


On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 20:47:00, Trip O'Dell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Rony -

 Hi,

 Can anyone guide me in understanding, what are the key factors to
 be considered while redesigning a legacy (green screen) application
 to a web UI interface application?.

 That's an intriguing question, but I'm not sure its the right one.
 What does the application currently do? What's the advantage in
 moving it to the web? How could the new application grow to be more
 valuable to the customer than the old (as opposed to just a
 replacement for existing technology). If the customer has held on to
 the system this long, they're either really cheap, or the existing
 system is a critical part of their business. This means the existing
 users can already tell you their main likes and dislikes about the
 system. If you start with the existing users, what they like and
 dislike about existing workflows specifically and their job more
 generally you'll have a pretty good idea of where to start with
 porting the functionality over to the new system.

 As for the technology, I'm not sure what the requirements are, but
 there are a lot of emerging solutions that allow the flexibility of a
 desktop app with the convenience of a web App. (Check out Adobe
 Flex/AIR or Google Gears) You may want to consider something like
 this over a straight up web app (which only work when connected to
 the web/network).

 The advantage of this sort of approach is that it would allow you to
 adapt the application to different types of devices and form factors
 depending on the user task - consoles, hand held, lap top, sensor
 system. Also, these applications can work in a sometimes
 connected environment, storing data locally and then posting to the
 server when its available - a good solution for a warehouse or
 something where wireless can be problematic. Just a thought.




 Especialy with reagards to task flows, forms and the toggle between
 keyboard and mouse.

 Sorry if this topic as already been discussed, maybe someone can
 provide me the thread.

 Thanks a ton!
 Rony


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shift from Legacy system to web UI interface application

2008-02-28 Thread Ari Feldman
data entry speed is one of the prime advantages of green screen apps.

web apps don't really excel at this due to their emphasis on mouse-based
input.

i'd focus on building in lots of key-based redundancy for common tasks such
as tabbing between fields, etc.

also, web forms can reduce many green screen menus, which can speed certain
tasks and eliminate others.

another challenge you'll have is the fact that green screen apps are
'single-tasking' - they assume control over the entire environment whereas
web apps run insider a browser with limited control over state on an OS that
can have multiple windows open.

you'll have devise some interesting ways of keeping the user's focus on the
task while still allowing them to maintain efficiency.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Rony Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Can anyone guide me in understanding, what are the key factors to be
 considered while redesigning a legacy (green screen) application to a web
 UI
 interface application?. Especialy with reagards to task flows, forms and
 the toggle between keyboard and mouse.

 Sorry if this topic as already been discussed, maybe someone can provide
 me
 the thread.

 Thanks a ton!
 Rony
 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shift from Legacy system to web UI interface application

2008-02-28 Thread Chauncey Wilson
Hello Rony,

Legacy applications may not be the most aesthetic, but they are often
quite efficient and when moving from legacy to GUI or WUI (Web user
interface), keeping the efficiency can be quite a challenge.  If you
are looking at applications like order-entry or financial apps where
people are working with forms and data all day, then you might
consider minizing keyboard-mouse transitions (those are slow), examine
workflow and optimal layout of required and optional fields.  For the
highest frequency operations, it might be useful to gather some
baseline data for comparison.  Youl could also use the GOMS
Keystroke-level modeling to compare different designs for your Web
interface.  The GOMS KLM is quite powerful for doing relative
comparisons and examining expert usage.

I went through this in the early 1990s when legacy moved to Windows
and for those will admit it, the first Windows versions of legacy app
were often worse than the legacy app even if they looked more
usable.  Here is a note that I wrote in respone to a question like
yours in the STC Usability SIG newsletter in 1998.

By Chauncey Wilson, edited by Robi Gunn
Reprinted from Usability Interface, Vol 4, No. 4, April 1998
http://www.stcsig.org/usability/newsletter/9804-character2gui.html

Chauncey

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Rony Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anyone guide me in understanding, what are the key factors to be
 considered while redesigning a legacy (green screen) application to a web UI
 interface application?. Especialy with reagards to task flows, forms and
 the toggle between keyboard and mouse.

 Sorry if this topic as already been discussed, maybe someone can provide me
 the thread.

 Thanks a ton!
 Rony
 
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