Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Advocacy

2007-05-14 Thread Henning Lorenz
Hi Arnulf!

What a great resource! This is exactly what is needed to allow everyone
who is interested in OSGeo to promote its case. I'm grateful for the
collection of definitions and concepts because I was asked to give a
seminar on FOSS software during a local conference here in Uppsala. Why
I, a simple FOSS user was asked? Well, that's related to the Use cases
for FOSS-GIS in universities thread - there are simply no other people
around who use FOSS software in GIS.

Cheers,

Henning

PS: I suggest consolidate instead of bundle in 1. under Education
and long term outreach.




Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) wrote:
 Hi All,
 I have started a new page in a tentative try at defining Advocacy for OSGeo.
 http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Advocacy

 Please feel free to add, remove, discuss at will.

 I imagine something like: http://www.freebsd.org/advocacy/ with links and
 general information, gallery, etc. As we do not want to start yet another
 workgroup we do this in the Visibility and Promotion Committee (who the
 f*** gave it this name?) in short VisCom.

 We (VisCom) will try to pick up a few threads that have been started in
 the past and looked promising but then have been abandoned due to pending
 real work. I would be very interested in getting a little unreal again
 and actively position OSGeo mission and brand in the market. We have
 already done a good job by just being there but this could be done more
 actively.
 * http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/WebCom_OSGeo_Site_Focus
 * http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Open_Source_Training_Providers
 etc. many more

 Be prepared to do things if you suggest them (this is a try a preventing
 more great ideas spring into life and then wither away because OSGeo did
 not pick them up).

 If you are interested please consider joining the VisCom mailing list:
 http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/viscom-dev

 Best regards,


   


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Liability protection project - call for participants

2007-05-14 Thread Frank Warmerdam


Folks,

Bruce Perens is a luminary in the open source world, and known as a
founder of the Debian project, and author of the Free Software
Definition - a foundational document for the concept of OSI approved
open source licenses.

Bruce Perens wrote:
 A long time ago we planned for SPI to protect Debian developers from
 liability connected with their development of Free Software. That never
 came to fruition. With the sword-rattling going on by various patent
 holders, it's  a goal even more worth carrying out today.

 Some of us have homes, and other property that we would rather not place
 at risk of any lawsuit connected with our Free Software activities. The
 way to do that is to act as a volunteer on the behalf of a non-profit
 corporation, with the corporation assuming your liability. It is
 possible to insure you against those risks, but it's much more expensive
 - potentially 1.5 to 2.5 percent of your net worth per year per member.
 It's better to put the risk in the lap of an entity that doesn't own
 anything. We can potentially do it at zero cost to the member that way.

 There is a downside. If you work on behalf of such an entity, you would
 have to agree to act at their direction, which means acting responsbily
 on their behalf, by not doing stupid stuff that obviously increases the
 corporation's risk of being sued. This doesn't really have to do with
 practical software, but with what some consider freedom-of-speech issues
 like obscentity or hate speech. For that reason, this would be strictly
 opt-in. It would not be directly associated with SPI or Debian, because
 we could never get all of the DDs to agree about this, and because SPI
 owns property that we do not want to expose to liability. Copyrights of
 software produced would be assigned to a non-profit like FSF or SPI*

 I am asking for current free software authors in the United States who
 would be interested in being protected from liability, and would join me
 in a request to the Software Freedom Law Center to assist us by creating
 such an entity. If you would like to do that, please reply to me at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Further discussion will be carried out separately
 from SPI and Debian lists.

Thanks

Bruce

 * There should also be limits on how much software a single non-profit
 has in its risk pool, this is a good question for SFLC.

At the time it was founded, OSGeo also had a goal to provide legal
resources, and perhaps assume legal liability for developers of OSGeo
project.  This is not a role that OSGeo has worked to address since
founding, and it is unclear how much liability it would be willing to
assume.

I've asked Bruce for more information on his efforts, either with an
eye towards OSGeo fulfilling this role of legal liability shield for
developers, or possibly with the idea of addressing this via some
separate entity such as the one he envisages establishing.

I'm interested in others thoughts on the importance of the role of
legal liability shield.  Such thoughts would be well expressed
here on OSGeo discuss.

Bruce is also interested in other open source software developers
expressing interest in his effort to help justify forming a corporation.
You can contact him as noted above.

Best regards,
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