Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education

2007-10-29 Thread Frans Thamura
Firman,

can explain more about the LiveCD?

me,

personally, i try GG now, and hope can make a step by step instruction
to start with'

still far from livecd

F
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education

2007-10-29 Thread Landon Blake
This would be a really good time for me to get updated Debian packages
for JTS and OpenJUMP complete.

I've been using Debian for a couple of years now, but I've never made a
package for the operating system. I have done some reading on it. It is
a little tricky for Java programs, especially one like OpenJUMP that
depends on a set folder structure.

But if we are putting together a CD of open source GIS packages for
Ubuntu then I need to get my act together and work through the technical
issues.

At any rate, I'd be interested in helping prepare debs for OpenJUMP and
JTS at a minimum, but I might be able to help with other FOSS GIS Java
packages as well. 

I downloaded the old OpenJUMP package today. I'll see what I can learn
from its structure this week.

Landon

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Frank, I wondered how long it would take to chime in.

Frank and I have discussed this topic before and I promised him I'd 
write up my thoughts. This email thread has spurred me into action. My 
thoughts (most of which have been gleaned from my emails) are blogged
at:

http://techblog.terrapages.com/2007/10/path-to-ubiquitous-osgeo-software
html

Frank Warmerdam wrote:

 Folks,

 I'm not sure I have a lot to add to this thread, but it is a topic 
 close to
 my heart, so I will chime in.

 I think Venka's idea of a standalone CD set for OSGeo software
packages
 on Ubuntu is a great idea.  I especially appreciate the fact that it 
 builds
 on the existing great work of the DebianGIS team (ported to Ubuntu 
 from the
 Debian source packages as I understand).

 I am sensitive to the issue that OSGeo can't very practically pick one
 Linux distribution and ignore all the rest.  So I'm not sure that this
 effort will be the ultimate solution to OSGeo software for Linux, but
it
 is practical and achievable in the short to medium term.  Delivering a
 product CD based on Ubuntu builds on a popular distribution and is
 particularly sympatico with the conference given the south african
 origins of Ubuntu.

 It seems to me there are a few angles on which we can work this topic.

 1) rough out a plan of the sort of stack of software we want to offer,
 potentially tied to the education material and use cases we are trying
 to support.

 2) Review what is missing from this in DebianGIS and try to find 
 volunteers
 to help the DebianGIS project package the appropriate software.  There
is
 a fair amount of expertise needed for Debian packaging (IMHO), but a
few
 volunteers willing to invest 30-50 hours over the coming 6-7 months
could
 make quite a difference.  But we need to realize DebianGIS is a well
 established project with it's own culture and expectations and be 
 prepared
 to work within this.

 It might be helpful for OSGeo to maintain a Debian system (as a VM or
a
 whole blade) to provide a working and testing environment for folks
who
 don't run Debian at home/work.

 3) Find out what is needed to bring UbuntuGIS up to the appropriate 
 packages.
 I don't know what people are involved in UbuntuGIS or how they 
 operate.  My
 understanding is that for major new Ubuntu releases the UbuntuGIS 
 packages
 are built from the DebianGIS source packages.

 4) Putting this together on CD/DVD is where the rubber hits the road.
It
 would be great if Venka can lead this aspect, but I'm sure he would
 appreciate help.  There is no reason that a first draft of this can't
 be prepared based on existing packages.

 One cool things is that Debian, and regular network based Ubuntu uses 
 also
 all benefit from the upstream efforts.  I love this sort of leverage!

 -- 

 I'm not sure what OSGeo can do to facilitate this activity.  We
obviously
 can't direct volunteers, only encourage them.  We don't have funding
 targeted for such an effort.  However, if a modest amount of money
 could make a big difference I might be able to scare some up.

 I'm confident we can provide mailing lists, wiki space, server space,
 and bandwidth if these are helpful.

 I have cc:ed Frankie, the DebianGIS lead, in the hopes he could
comment
 on how we can help support the DebianGIS effort.

 Best regards,


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geospatial Events Calendar?

2007-10-29 Thread P Kishor
Thanks for pointing that out Gavin. Please note, the new link will
save you a few keystrokes at...

http://punkish.eidesis.org/cal/conferences.ics

In the same vein of events, please note, among the many events being
organized at UW-Madison as part of the GIS Day Expo, there is also
going to be a Geospatial Interoperability Summit: Open Technologies
for Collaboration – Dashboards, Portals,  Web Services . (see link
below). Of interest to us here on the list, Bob Basques and other
friends from the City of St. Paul will be on hand to tell us all about
GeoMOOSE. Yours truly will be moderating a gab session.

http://www.geography.wisc.edu/GISDay/summit.htm



On 10/29/07, Gavin Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Puneet

 The conference calendar link below doesn't seem to work. Please add this to 
 your calendar:

 Free and Open Source Geospatial 2008 (FOSS4G2008)
 Cape Town, South Africa
 29 Sept - 3 Oct 2008
 www.foss4g2008.org

 many thanks

 Gavin Fleming
 conference chair

 

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 On 10/14/07, Cameron Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Has anyone set up (and maintaining) a Geospatial Events Calendar?
  Ideally one that I can import into my Google Calendar.
  It would be useful for picking future OSGeo conference dates that don't
  clash.
 


 http://punkish.eidesis.org/cal_public/conferences.ics

 I try to keep it filled with mostly stuff I am going to attend, but
 would be happy to add other events as well.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Announce: Request for Proposal for Hosting 2009 Conference

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff McKenna
The Open Source Geospatial Foundation, or OSGeo, today released a 
request for proposal, or RFP, (available at 
http://www.osgeo.org/sites/osgeo.org/files/webfiles/conference/rfp/2009/osgeo-conference-2009-request-for-proposal.pdf) 
for the hosting of the FOSS4G 2009 conference. With the overwhelming 
success of the recent FOSS4G 2007 conference in Victoria Canada 
(http://www.foss4g2007.org/), and as excitement begins to build for 
FOSS4G 2008 in Cape Town South Africa (http://www.foss4g2008.org/), 
OSGeo again aims for the 2009 conference to be a major geospatial 
conference during that year. The RFP solicitation closes January 11th, 
2008.



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Association of American Geographers (AAG) Annual Meeting

2007-10-29 Thread Alex Mandel
I'm putting the finishing touches on my abstract right now and was 
thinking about this topic again.


I think there's plenty of time to still organize a session as long as we 
know of at least 4 papers to include in the session and someone wants to 
volunteer to chair the session. All we need to do is email Oscar Larson 
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] What he'll probably tell us to do is make sure that 
everyone who is part of the session(s) puts something like Open Source 
 Geospatial in their keywords so it's easy to pick out and if we can 
pull together all the authors on our end and give them a list it 
probably wouldn't hurt.


The key is to make sure we get abstracts in. Note, you can still make 
minor edits to your abstract after submission but the deadline is this 
Wednesday, Oct 31.


On other conference planning items I suggest that someone who is 
authorized to speak for OSGeo contact Oscar Larson and sign us up for a 
booth. I'll be there to table and hopefully will bring some other new 
converts to FOSS with me from my university.


What do you guys think about trying to organize a workshop on something 
like: Introduction to QGIS, or Introduction to GIS using QGIS(How to 
teach an intro course in GIS with QGIS) based on some of the course 
materials being uploaded by various members?



Alex Mandel

Helena Mitasova wrote:

Allan,

I am planning to submit a paper (and I will check with others in the 
growing OSGeo community here in Triangle who may be planning to go too) 
- I think an organized session (or two) would be great if there is still 
time to propose it and I can certainly help with the booth.


Also I am wondering about getting some of the Google SOC students there -
those who did not get a chance to be in Victoria - maybe Google could 
support their travel?
We had two very nice projects that would fit very well with this 
conference.


Helena

Helena Mitasova
Dept. of Marine, Earth and Atm. Sciences
1125 Jordan Hall, NCSU Box 8208,
Raleigh NC 27695
http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/



On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Allan Doyle wrote:

Chris Schmidt is starting up OSGeo Boston, and this would be a great 
project for us to do. We're having our first meeting tonight, we can 
put it on the agenda!


Allan

On Oct 17, 2007, at 13:30 , Alex Mandel wrote:

I think this is a great opportunity for OSGeo to reach a wider 
audience of general users.


As and organization I think we should consider having a 'vendor' 
booth in the exhibit hall, running a workshop, and maybe an organized 
session.

I'll volunteer to help with whatever we pick to do.

The meeting is April 15-19 2008 in Boston, but paper submission are 
due by the end of this month. Note, they make you pay for the 
conference before you submit because you are guaranteed to talk(as 
far as I can tell).


Alex

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Abstracts must be submitted online at www.aag.org/annualmeeting 
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