Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Simple Problem!

2007-11-16 Thread Saka Royban
Hi
I'm also newbie but according to what i khnow you shouldn't extract it. Instead 
you should change its extension from .zip to .mgp and copy it to that folder
Regards


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From: Alireza Nobahar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:13:34 PM
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Simple Problem!


Hi there,
 
I'm a new recruit in term of GIS. I'm surveying engineer and I'm also software 
programmer(VB6,VB.NET,C#.NET,SQL Server2000). Nowadays as I have to design and 
develop a GIS project, I'm scrutinizing the net to find something usefull about 
Mapguide Open Source and I've found OSGeo site. Neverheless, at the first step 
I've encountered a problem with a sample. I've done all the following step:
 
1 Download the package Sheboygan.mgp from
https://mapguide.osgeo.org/downloads.html#samples .
2 Copy the package Sheboygan.mgp to one of the following locations:
■ Windows: C:\Program Files\MapGuideOpenSource\Server\Packages
3 Start Site Administrator:
http://servername/mapguide/mapadmin/login.php
4 Enter the following:
■ User ID: Administrator
■ Password: admin
5 Choose the Configure Services menu.
6 In the Resource Services section, make sure that the path for Packages
Folder is the same as in Step 2.
7 Choose the Manage Packages menu.
8 In the list of packages in the Load Package section, click Sheboygan.mgp.
 
However, it doesn't have any package in the list! and is written:(No packages 
found) and I'm confused. Actually I downloaded Sheboygan.zip and after extract 
this folder copy it to (C:\Program Files\MapGuideOpenSource\Server\Packages). 
The folder name is Sheboygan,NOT Sheboygan.mgp!
Is there any one to help me?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-16 Thread Paul Spencer
Cubewerx created a binary XML implementation that is open source.   
They claim substantial benefits, so perhaps GML plus a binary XML  
library could be an alternative?


http://www.cubewerx.com/web/guest/bxml

Cheers

Paul

On 15-Nov-07, at 5:21 PM, Lucena, Ivan wrote:


Sampson,

I am not a GML guru and I don't know if a binary version exists  
already, but I would imagine that HDF5 would be a excellent choice  
by its own hierarchical nature. I mean, we can use GML as a schema  
to store the data in binary format in the HDF5 format.


Best regards,

Ivan

Sampson, David wrote:

Alright,
Here are some other thoughts.
First off what about a open office (open base) type approach... This
mimmics the ESRI MSAccess approach and seams to work well for non  
server

environments. Also open office is a good environment for some basic
applications.
Next, what ever happened to the adoption of GML... Was GML not  
supposed
to be the NEXT interchange fomrat?  Perhaps this is a good  
discussion to

include the GML gurus in. The whole discussion of going with a binary
GML format makes sense and GML is already used for many web mapping
(feature) services. It sounds like a duplication of GML to me...  
Unless
someone can offer a direct compare and contrast between the concept  
here

and the GML/Binary GML concept.
In either case being able to convert to and from GML would be a  
necesity

for wide adoption IMHO.
Another thought is to encourage some of the proprietary formats to  
open
up. What would it take to get ESRI on board to open up the format  
(open
as in free speech). What about other non-open standards? Once it's  
open

then we can bring the SHP format to modern day useage. Surely much of
the format could be salvaged.
Besides, if you want wide adoption of an open format then why not  
go for

those players who hold greatest market share.
Some thoughts.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P Kishor
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 09:53
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open  
data

format
So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS  
data.
That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide  
presence
of ESRI's products from the beginning of the epoch, it has been  
widely
adopted. Existence of shapelib, various language bindings, and  
ready use
by products such as MapServer has continued to cement Shapefile as  
the
format to use. All this is in spite of Shapefile's inherent  
drawbacks,

particularly in the area of attribute data management.
What if we came up with a new and improved data format -- call it  
Open

Shapefile (extension .osh) -- that would be completely Free,
single-file based (instead of the multiple .shp, .dbf, .shx, etc.),  
and

based on SQLite, giving the .osh format complete relational data
handling capabilities. We would require a new version of Shapelib,
improved language bindings, make it the default and preferred  
format for
MapServer, and provide seamless and painless import of regular .shp  
data
into .osh for native rendering. Its adoption would be quick in the  
open
source community. The non-opensource community would either not  
give a

rat's behind for it, but it wouldn't affect them...
they would still work with their preferred .shp until they learned
better. By having a completely open and Free single-file based,  
built on
SQLite, fully relational dbms capable spatial data format, it would  
be

positioned for continued improvement and development.
Is this too crazy?
--
Puneet Kishor
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