Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Comparison of Mobile GIS applications
Hello Miguel, I have done some mobile GIS applications on Windows Mobile platform based on SQLite and SpatiaLite. I'm interested to share my experience and contribute my findings in your compilation for your coming presentation such as GIS feature list and performance. At the moment I have built a set of DLLs called libMobileGIS to be used on Windows Mobile device. This set of DLLs was mentioned sometime ago in the following Google discussion group [1] and the binary can be downloaded at [2]. I need sometime to tidy up before publishing the modified/edited sources with Microsoft VS solution and projects. [1] http://groups.google.com/group/spatialite-users/browse_thread/thread/fdc0dd434b8d5248# [2] http://myweb.polyu.edu.hk/~lsykshea/public/spatialite-related/ Regards, Geoffrey ---BeginMessage--- Miguel, I'm excited to hear your presentation was selected. I think there is a lot of interest in mobile GIS and seeing an overview of technologies will be of great interest to the general community, so I expect you will have a large audience to present to. I saw an interesting presentation from Geoffrey Shea and Professor Jiannong Cao at the FIG conference [1]. They have built a mobile application based upon open source on a Windows Mobile. I understand they have already, or are going to publish their source code as an Open Source project. Geoffrey, Professor Cao, I wonder whether you would be interested in joining Miguel's comparison of GIS Mobile applications? Also, could you please point us to the location of the code for your project. Is it on Google Code or similar? [1] http://www.google.com/search?q=libmobilegis+fig On 02/06/10 22:35, Miguel Montesinos wrote: Hello to all, I'm preparing a presentation for the FOSS4G, with title Comparison of Mobile GIS applications. I know some, but I think that the best way to make an objective analysis is to offer the chance for anyone to collaborate, in order to define common feature lists as well as perfomance or usability check lists. Is anyone developing or using a mobile geospatial application interested? Regards, - Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ---End Message--- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating
Michael, I think you have described here a 3 star system, and I've described a 4 star (which includes beta software), with my 5th star not allocated yet. On 08/06/10 09:17, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Since this is an OSGeo-based CD, presumably with the OSGeo logo all over it in various places, I'd suggest there are only three kinds of projects: - those which are Approved by OSGeo - those which are Undergoing OSGeo Approval Note: a separate issue that OSGeo Incubation is facing is that projects don't have a strong incentive to complete incubation. Projects get similar marketing value whether they are incubating or incubated. Consequently they are spending a long time incubating. I propose that projects ready to start incubation get the same rating as projects in incubation. Noticeable marketing credit is given to projects that have completed incubation. - everything else With two simple logos you can indicate projects of the first two categories; I don't think much explanation should be required up front, especially if one avoids jargon words like graduated and incubation. On the LiveDVD we have stable software and self described beta software. Hence we would like to distinguish between the two. -mpg -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Cameron, Well stated. As an organisation that is implementing Open Source spatial, we are looking to applications that have graduated from OSGeo Incubation as an indication of quality. If this is not the case, as has been indicated in this thread, then IMHO, we as OSGeo need to devise an approach that will allow organisations to select quality applications for deployment. The last thing that anyone wants is for a major player to implement a poor quality application and have problems with the bad publicity that would follow. We cannot expect that knowledgeable OS Spatial people will always be doing product selection. This is often a function assigned to an IT group through Enterprise IT Governance processes. The people doing the selection, may or may not have appropriate skills and experience. Bruce On 9/06/10 8:24 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Michael, Your comments have been good in that they have made me think deeper about what OSGeo stands for and then how we market that. Successful product companies first find out what the market wants, the build a marketing message, then build the product to fit the market. Developing a shiny product then discovering no-one wants it is a sad but common story. In our case, we have created a brand called OSGeo Incubation. What does that mean? Why is it valuable? How can we get that message across to our target market of GIS users who are interested in Open Source but don't know what OSGeo is? If OSGeo Incubation doesn't represent quality or maturity (which is what the market are looking for) then what is the point of spending years of volunteer time going through incubation? I'm afraid that OSGeo Project is not a compelling sales message to our target market, unless we can tie the message to quality or maturity (or another word with similar meaning). Unless we can provide such positive marketing, I expect that we will have spin off projects or organisations defect from OSGeo create their own marketing message. (I wouldn't be surprise if OpenGeo had similar thoughts before they created and then marketed the OpenGeo suite.) Marketing like everything else has positives and negatives. Positives: + Lots of users which draws in money and developers and we all make money and thrive Negatives: - We need to distill our messages down into marketing sound bytes and generalised rating systems and the like - We need to be honest in describing ours and others projects because that is what the market wants to hear before they will spend money on us On 08/06/10 09:17, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Since this is an OSGeo-based CD, presumably with the OSGeo logo all over it in various places, I'd suggest there are only three kinds of projects: - those which are Approved by OSGeo - those which are Undergoing OSGeo Approval - everything else With two simple logos you can indicate projects of the first two categories; I don't think much explanation should be required up front, especially if one avoids jargon words like graduated and incubation. -mpg From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 3:57 PM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating There have been some passionate views against rating projects. Maybe I should start by explaining the drivers which led to the proposal for a 5 star rating. Previously only OSGeo graduated and incubation projects were promoted by OSGeo at conferences and the like, however, with the OSGeo LiveDVD, we are packaging and hence promoting many non-graduated projects. How do we credit that a project has gone through the extensive graduation process in our marketing material in a manner that will be understood by the target audience? Unfortunately, putting OSGeo Graduated against a project is meaningless because the target audience usually hasn't heard of OSGeo and is even less likely to know what Graduated means. We could write a paragrah explaining what OSGeo and Graduation are on each Project Overview flier, but that wastes valuable marketing real-estate. Note: I'm basing our target audience on the typical profile of people who drop by the OSGeo booth at conferences. They pick up a LiveDVD and fliers which have Open Source on the cover. They are typically GIS users, have heard of Open Source and want to know what Open Source packages are available to replace their existing , but usually haven't heard of OSGeo and almost certainly don't know about the graduation process. They want to know about the best 2 or 3 packakges they should consider, and they definitely don't want to have to trawl through 350 software packages on http://freegis.org . They spend 5 to 20 minutes talking at the OSGeo stand, then walk onto the other 50 exhibition booths at the conference. Visitors to the OSGeo website are
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
On 9/06/10 10:40 AM, P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote: The last thing that anyone wants is for a major player to implement a poor quality application and have problems with the bad publicity that would follow. We cannot expect that knowledgeable OS Spatial people will always be doing product selection. This is often a function assigned to an IT group through Enterprise IT Governance processes. The people doing the selection, may or may not have appropriate skills and experience. Due diligence, caveat emptor and all. If the people doing selection don't have appropriate skills and experience, then those people should be replaced with people who have the appropriate skills and experience to do the selection. Makes me shudder to think that not only might we have inexperienced and inappropriate people at the helm, we are willing to accept them there instead of changing them. The point that I was making is that Enterprise IT Governance processes often remove the product selection from the people specifying the Business Requirements. This is often an IT function. Spatial requirements are often seen as a Business function. In an ideal world, organisations would have people with appropriate IT, Spatial, OGC and OS Spatial skills making the recommendations. In the real world, we cannot expect that this will actually happen. Have you tried recruiting for people with appropriate IT, Spatial, OGC and OS Spatial skills lately (and at government wages...)? Bruce ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Comment on OSGeo Project Marketing template before we set it in stone
Sounds like we have adobe illustrator and inkscape copies of the flyer. That is a starting point I could work from; the only difficulty would be font use. And thanks for the reminder about ODF being a standard :-) Jody On 07/06/2010, at 9:23 AM, Jody Garnett wrote: You are going to have to ask Tyler for more detail. For my part I have seen them handed out; raised a couple issues with respect to Font use, made an open office template for slides and workbooks myself for foss4g and that is all I know. Jody On 07/06/2010, at 5:48 AM, Jason Birch wrote: Jody, Is that under http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/flyer/ or is there another source for it? Jason On 5 June 2010 19:40, Jody Garnett wrote: You should find that an official marketing template is already available as part of the work the graphics designed has done. My trouble is that I have not seen it in open office yet. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone know of a FOSS GIS solution to creating terrain profiles from contours lines or an elevation raster (DEM)?
Hi, I want to create a terrain profile along a particular transect for a project I am working on. I have contours and have created a raster file showing elevation data. I was wondering if someone knew of a program that I could visualise the contour data, draw a line over this, and have a 'plan' view of the profile created. I want to show the profile of two types of creek systems in a area I am working -- one is a broad (200-300m) 'U' shaped creek bed, while the other an ephemeral creek that has hardly made a scratch on the terrain (1-10m width). I could print the map with a scale, use a ruler and transfer the data to a graph paper -- but we are over this aren't we? I retired my colour pencils, scale rulers, spline, curves, compasses, etcetera years ago! I have searched actively and looked at gvSIG, OpenJUMP, SAGA, Sextante, QGIS but nothing is obvious. SAGA looks promising but it requires a 'grid based DEM'. Is this simply an issue of trying to use one tool (GIS) to do everything, and really I should be looking at other tools (CAD). If so can someone point me to a FOSS solution. -- Cheer Simon Simon Cropper Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160 Sunshine 3020 P: 03 9311 5822. M: 041 830 3437 W: http://www.botanicusaustralia.com.au ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone know of a FOSS GIS solution to creating terrain profiles from contours lines or an elevation raster (DEM)?
On Wednesday 09 June 2010 12:44:16 Simon Cropper wrote: I have searched actively and looked at gvSIG, OpenJUMP, SAGA, Sextante, QGIS but nothing is obvious. Hi, I'll answer my own question. It is amazing how you can search for something using every conceivable technical term to no avail. As it was I found what I wanted in gvSIG+Sextante. Sextante has an option under 'Profiles' -- go figure. -- Cheer Simon Simon Cropper Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160 Sunshine 3020 P: 03 9311 5822. M: 041 830 3437 W: http://www.botanicusaustralia.com.au ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone know of a FOSS GIS solution to creating terrain profiles from contours lines or an elevation raster (DEM)?
On 06/09/2010 06:03 AM, Simon Cropper wrote: On Wednesday 09 June 2010 12:44:16 Simon Cropper wrote: I have searched actively and looked at gvSIG, OpenJUMP, SAGA, Sextante, QGIS but nothing is obvious. Hi, I'll answer my own question. It is amazing how you can search for something using every conceivable technical term to no avail. As it was I found what I wanted in gvSIG+Sextante. Sextante has an option under 'Profiles' -- go figure. ...and QGIS has a Profile Tool plugin, and GRASS has the r.profile module. -- Micha Silver Arava Development Co. +972-52-3665918 http://www.surfaces.co.il ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone know of a FOSS GIS solution to creating terrain profiles from contours lines or an elevation raster (DEM)?
Also grass can do that. --- Paolo Cavallini http://www.faunalia.it/pc - Reply message - Da: Simon Cropper scrop...@botanicusaustralia.com.au Data: mer, giu 9, 2010 05:03 Oggetto: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone know of a FOSS GIS solution to creating terrain profiles from contours lines or an elevation raster (DEM)? A: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org On Wednesday 09 June 2010 12:44:16 Simon Cropper wrote: I have searched actively and looked at gvSIG, OpenJUMP, SAGA, Sextante, QGIS but nothing is obvious. Hi, I'll answer my own question. It is amazing how you can search for something using every conceivable technical term to no avail. As it was I found what I wanted in gvSIG+Sextante. Sextante has an option under 'Profiles' -- go figure. -- Cheer Simon Simon Cropper Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160 Sunshine 3020 P: 03 9311 5822. M: 041 830 3437 W: http://www.botanicusaustralia.com.au ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
