[OSGeo-Discuss] OGC and OSGeo collaborate on documentation
The Open Geospatial Consortium, Inc. (OGC®) and the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) will develop conforming documentation for key OGC standards and geospatial open source application descriptions. Both sets of documentation will be available online and on the OSGeo-Live DVD, to be released at the international conference for Free and Open Source Software, FOSS4G, in September 2010, in Barcelona, Spain (http://2010.foss4g.org). We are happy to work with OSGeo to meet the needs of open source developers, explained Steven Ramage, Executive Director, Marketing and Communications, OGC, because wider use of OGC standards increases interoperability, innovation and market growth, and this benefits developers and users of both open source and proprietary software. According to Cameron Shorter, coordinator of the OSGeo-Live project, OGC standards underpin our GeoSpatial Open Source applications, and hence OGC documentation will greatly enhance the Open Source documentation being developed. *About OSGeo-Live* OSGeo-Live is a DVD, USB drive and Virtual Machine based upon Ubuntu Linux that is pre-configured with a wide variety of robust, open source, geospatial software. The applications can be trialed without installing anything on your computer, simply by booting the computer from the DVD or USB drive. OSGeo Live is handed out at conferences around the world, and is regularly used by students in geospatial workshops and tutorials. (http://live.osgeo.org) *About OSGeo* The Open Source Geospatial Foundation, or OSGeo is a not-for-profit organization whose mission is to support and promote the collaborative development of open geospatial technologies and data. (http://www.osgeo.org/) *About the Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC®)* The OGC® is an international consortium of more than 395 companies, government agencies, research organizations, and universities participating in a consensus process to develop publicly available geospatial standards. OGC Standards empower technology developers to make geospatial information and services accessible and useful with any application that needs to be geospatially enabled. Visit the OGC website at http://www.opengeospatial.org/contact *Contact: * * Lance McKee, Senior Staff Writer, Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) * phone: +1 508-655-5858, lmc...@opengeospatial.org * Cameron Shorter, OSGeo Live project coordinator * +61 2 8570-5050, cameron.shor...@lisasoft.com -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for input on field enabled desktop / internet project
You may want to look at beegis; it is for field data collection. Jody On 27/07/2010, at 11:05 PM, karsten vennemann wrote: Hi all, I am working on a project that deals with storing, retrieving and displaying field collected data about plant species. Data will often be entered on laptops in the field and later uploaded onto the web and database server once an internet connection is available. Thus the project involves both * an internet based application for managing , updating and viewing spatial data and * a desktop application enabling the disconnected collection and editing of data This is pretty similar to the approach taken by the initial version of the Open Ocean map (desktop component based on QGIS - compare http://www.ecotrust.org/ocean/OpenOceanMap.html ) While from my perspective the web based part can relatively easily accomplished using Open Source components, the other component - a desktop tool to collect the data in the field that should at the same time be compatible with the desktop system could potentially prove to be more tricky. One problem is that we might have to use ArcGIS as a desktop tool because users are familiar with it and are already using it for other tasks. Unfortunately (from my experience) ArcGIS is not really good in displaying related table information in one-to-many relationships. Basically for each mapping polygon (there are many areas and many species) over time different users will enter information about species. Those will have times attached to them. This will create a time series that once can monitor changes over time (did the species decrease or increase in that area). Thus the database design I wanted to use will have 3 related tables 1. polygon GIS layer of areas (static) 2. a 'record table (update all the time) that will store each record ever entered with fields such as species name, species_id, user, date, and map_area_id (this table will be related in a may to one relationship to the mapping areas using the map_area_id (many records related to one mapping area. In the end this table will have information for each of the mapping areas, for each area several hundred species, for each species multiple entries over time and from different users. Thus that absolutely doe not follow the standard format of one column one could use to symbolize this on the map in ArcGIS. However using zigGIS this can be pulled from PostGIS. Using a “view” in a PostGIS with a definition query in ArcGIS can handle the display in ArcGIS . 3. table of species (pretty static) with specific species data (common and scientific names, species_id, web links etc...) related to the records table using the species_id Now I am looking for a field enabled solution (no internet access) on the desktop that can handle the editing of multiple mapping areas (assigning to many map areas values for one of the species for example. The data should be stored in a format that we can then (hopefully easily) upload to the PostGIS database as new records ... ArcGIS can handle the editing very well but not the relationships we will create (out of the box at least not), also zigGIS does not allow the related tables to be edited out of the box. We could do this adapting the OpenOcean Map tools - but would need to enable advanced editing (to allow updating many map areas records and multiple attribute data at once in a form) . Or we could use ArcGIS for editing and define an upload mechanism to PostGIS . But whish data storage format to use ZigGIS is not ready for editing for related tables … Another thought is using some set-up of GIS on a stick (flash drive) … Any suggestions how to approach this best? Thanks Karsten ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OGC and OSGeo collaborate on documentation
Good work Cameron. It is great to see more cooperation between the OGC and the OSGeo. Landon Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:56 AM To: OSGeo Discussions; live-d...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OGC and OSGeo collaborate on documentation The Open Geospatial Consortium, Inc. (OGC®) and the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) will develop conforming documentation for key OGC standards and geospatial open source application descriptions. Both sets of documentation will be available online and on the OSGeo-Live DVD, to be released at the international conference for Free and Open Source Software, FOSS4G, in September 2010, in Barcelona, Spain (http://2010.foss4g.org). We are happy to work with OSGeo to meet the needs of open source developers, explained Steven Ramage, Executive Director, Marketing and Communications, OGC, because wider use of OGC standards increases interoperability, innovation and market growth, and this benefits developers and users of both open source and proprietary software. According to Cameron Shorter, coordinator of the OSGeo-Live project, OGC standards underpin our GeoSpatial Open Source applications, and hence OGC documentation will greatly enhance the Open Source documentation being developed. About OSGeo-Live OSGeo-Live is a DVD, USB drive and Virtual Machine based upon Ubuntu Linux that is pre-configured with a wide variety of robust, open source, geospatial software. The applications can be trialed without installing anything on your computer, simply by booting the computer from the DVD or USB drive. OSGeo Live is handed out at conferences around the world, and is regularly used by students in geospatial workshops and tutorials. (http://live.osgeo.org) About OSGeo The Open Source Geospatial Foundation, or OSGeo is a not-for-profit organization whose mission is to support and promote the collaborative development of open geospatial technologies and data. (http://www.osgeo.org/) About the Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC®) The OGC® is an international consortium of more than 395 companies, government agencies, research organizations, and universities participating in a consensus process to develop publicly available geospatial standards. OGC Standards empower technology developers to make geospatial information and services accessible and useful with any application that needs to be geospatially enabled. Visit the OGC website at http://www.opengeospatial.org/contact Contact: * Lance McKee, Senior Staff Writer, Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) * phone: +1 508-655-5858, lmc...@opengeospatial.org * Cameron Shorter, OSGeo Live project coordinator * +61 2 8570-5050, cameron.shor...@lisasoft.com -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone Know What's Happened to All the NAIP Servers?
Up until just a few days ago, USDA NAIP (US Dept of Agriculture's National Agriculture Inventory Program) 1-meter aerial imagery was available free from several government servers but suddenly they all seem to have gone dark. Both the USGS ArcGIS and USDA.gov servers and a couple of AFPO sources seemed to have dried up simultaneously. Doe anyone know why? Is it going to be restored or scrapped? Is It is available elsewhere? I was using the USGS server at http://isse.cr.usgs.gov/arcgis/services/Combined/USGS_EDC_Ortho_NAIP/MapServer/WMSServer? but it's now broadcasting a runtime error instead of images. I hope it's not gone for good because it is a great source for free aerial imagery. So if anyone knows what's happened or what's unfolding here I'd like to find out. With the GeoCommunicator site announcing its shut-down soon I'm getting concerned that something bigger might be happening to US govt. spatial data resources. - Bill Thoen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone Know What's Happened to All the NAIP Servers?
Bill, The 2005 and 2009 NAIP imagery is still available for California Counties from Cal-Atlas. I'm not sure if that helps you, but they haven't removed the data from that source yet. Landon Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Bill Thoen Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:50 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone Know What's Happened to All the NAIP Servers? Up until just a few days ago, USDA NAIP (US Dept of Agriculture's National Agriculture Inventory Program) 1-meter aerial imagery was available free from several government servers but suddenly they all seem to have gone dark. Both the USGS ArcGIS and USDA.gov servers and a couple of AFPO sources seemed to have dried up simultaneously. Doe anyone know why? Is it going to be restored or scrapped? Is It is available elsewhere? I was using the USGS server at http://isse.cr.usgs.gov/arcgis/services/Combined/USGS_EDC_Ortho_NAIP/Map Server/WMSServer? but it's now broadcasting a runtime error instead of images. I hope it's not gone for good because it is a great source for free aerial imagery. So if anyone knows what's happened or what's unfolding here I'd like to find out. With the GeoCommunicator site announcing its shut-down soon I'm getting concerned that something bigger might be happening to US govt. spatial data resources. - Bill Thoen Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone Know What's Happened to All the NAIP Servers?
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Bill Thoen bth...@gisnet.com wrote: Up until just a few days ago, USDA NAIP (US Dept of Agriculture's National Agriculture Inventory Program) 1-meter aerial imagery was available free from several government servers but suddenly they all seem to have gone dark. Both the USGS ArcGIS and USDA.gov servers and a couple of AFPO sources seemed to have dried up simultaneously. Doe anyone know why? Is it going to be restored or scrapped? Is It is available elsewhere? http://imsortho.cr.usgs.gov:80/wmsconnector/com.esri.wms.Esrimap/USGS_EDC_Ortho_Pennsylvania? is still up and running. Ian -- Ian Turton ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone Know What's Happened to All the NAIP Servers?
Bill, Looks like the services are moving to new locations. See the list of services offered here http://cumulus.cr.usgs.gov/services.php Mike -- Michael Smith US Army Corps of Engineers Remote Sensing/GIS Center Hanover, NH On 7/27/10 2:49 PM, Bill Thoen bth...@gisnet.com wrote: Up until just a few days ago, USDA NAIP (US Dept of Agriculture's National Agriculture Inventory Program) 1-meter aerial imagery was available free from several government servers but suddenly they all seem to have gone dark. Both the USGS ArcGIS and USDA.gov servers and a couple of AFPO sources seemed to have dried up simultaneously. Doe anyone know why? Is it going to be restored or scrapped? Is It is available elsewhere? I was using the USGS server at http://isse.cr.usgs.gov/arcgis/services/Combined/USGS_EDC_Ortho_NAIP/MapServer /WMSServer? but it's now broadcasting a runtime error instead of images. I hope it's not gone for good because it is a great source for free aerial imagery. So if anyone knows what's happened or what's unfolding here I'd like to find out. With the GeoCommunicator site announcing its shut-down soon I'm getting concerned that something bigger might be happening to US govt. spatial data resources. - Bill Thoen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for input on field enabled desktop / internet project
My suggestion is to use OpenOcean Map rather use ArcGIS and extend the function of OpenOcean Map with field mapping and editing Please don't use ArcGIS, you can use QGIS instead. QGIS1.5 has Live GPS Tracking tool If OpenOcean Map (PyQt with PyQGIS) is bit tricky to implement then probably you can develop a QGIS plugin instead. Noli ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for input on field enabled desktop /internet project
You might also want to take a look at MapWindow. It has a PostGIS plugin and editing capabilities. I think it may struggle with the related table component though. Jack From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of karsten vennemann Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 9:05 PM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for input on field enabled desktop /internet project Hi all, I am working on a project that deals with storing, retrieving and displaying field collected data about plant species. Data will often be entered on laptops in the field and later uploaded onto the web and database server once an internet connection is available. Thus the project involves both * an internet based application for managing , updating and viewing spatial data and * a desktop application enabling the disconnected collection and editing of data This is pretty similar to the approach taken by the initial version of the Open Ocean map (desktop component based on QGIS - compare http://www.ecotrust.org/ocean/OpenOceanMap.html ) While from my perspective the web based part can relatively easily accomplished using Open Source components, the other component - a desktop tool to collect the data in the field that should at the same time be compatible with the desktop system could potentially prove to be more tricky. One problem is that we might have to use ArcGIS as a desktop tool because users are familiar with it and are already using it for other tasks. Unfortunately (from my experience) ArcGIS is not really good in displaying related table information in one-to-many relationships. Basically for each mapping polygon (there are many areas and many species) over time different users will enter information about species. Those will have times attached to them. This will create a time series that once can monitor changes over time (did the species decrease or increase in that area). Thus the database design I wanted to use will have 3 related tables 1. polygon GIS layer of areas (static) 2. a 'record table (update all the time) that will store each record ever entered with fields such as species name, species_id, user, date, and map_area_id (this table will be related in a may to one relationship to the mapping areas using the map_area_id (many records related to one mapping area. In the end this table will have information for each of the mapping areas, for each area several hundred species, for each species multiple entries over time and from different users. Thus that absolutely doe not follow the standard format of one column one could use to symbolize this on the map in ArcGIS. However using zigGIS this can be pulled from PostGIS. Using a view in a PostGIS with a definition query in ArcGIS can handle the display in ArcGIS . 3. table of species (pretty static) with specific species data (common and scientific names, species_id, web links etc...) related to the records table using the species_id Now I am looking for a field enabled solution (no internet access) on the desktop that can handle the editing of multiple mapping areas (assigning to many map areas values for one of the species for example. The data should be stored in a format that we can then (hopefully easily) upload to the PostGIS database as new records ... ArcGIS can handle the editing very well but not the relationships we will create (out of the box at least not), also zigGIS does not allow the related tables to be edited out of the box. We could do this adapting the OpenOcean Map tools - but would need to enable advanced editing (to allow updating many map areas records and multiple attribute data at once in a form) . Or we could use ArcGIS for editing and define an upload mechanism to PostGIS . But whish data storage format to use ZigGIS is not ready for editing for related tables ... Another thought is using some set-up of GIS on a stick (flash drive) ... Any suggestions how to approach this best? Thanks Karsten ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Your Online Resources - what license is it published under and have you not released information due to licensing issues
Hi, ** sorry for the duplication on lists, but I am keen to get a large sample ** I would like to canvas all of you. Please either send your response to the lists or to me directly (the latter will avoid clogging the lists with responses). I will tally and publish the summary of results ASAP. I don't intend to specify individuals just provide tallies of licenses used and reasons for not publishing. I hope to use this in future discussions regarding licensing relevant to OSGeo Members and potential obstacles to the release of valuable reference material and how these obstacles can be addressed. The questions are... 1. Under what license do you release online resources (forum posts, blogs, books, videos, tutorials, documents) that you publish? 2(a). Have you not released information due to licensing issues? 2(b). If so, why? (short answers please) If you do not specify the license implicitly on your work please indicate not specified. It is implied then that local copyright laws apply in which case indicate the country forum hosted in. If you publish under different licenses depending on your output please split you response into type of material created. If you accept the license of the site provider indicate this and preferably indicate what license this is. For example... 1. stuff released... - Ubuntu forum posts; site provider license; not specified (UK) - OSGeo forum posts; site provider license; not specified (USA) - Make-Believe forum post; Public Domain - private blogs; not specified (Aust) - company website; work protected under Australian Copyright Act 1969. - tutorials; Creative Commons (+Attr. -Deri. -Comm.) 2a. stuff not released... - tutorials using sample projects, data use prevented by someone else's copyright or by a Data Supply Agreements. - tutorials showing specific methods, avoid competitors knowing how to conduct certain analysis - any documents, concern quality will be degraded as others translate or change works to meet their own means. - any documents, concern that work will be used for commercial gain by others to no benefit to myself. - any documents, too much like hard work to get permission to use local datasets relevant to my industry (i.e. red tape) If you know of other people that publish or don't publish on the web involved in the FOSS4G community please feel free to send this email to them. Hopefully I will get enough responses that the result is meaningful. Please have you results in by Friday, 30 July 2010 at 07:00:00 UTC Time. [1] Thanks in advance... PS. I know that this is only a short time but my experience is that people either answer straight away or not at all. [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7day=30year=2010hour=7min=0sec=0p1=0 -- Cheers Simon Simon Cropper Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160, Sunshine, Victoria 3020. P: 9311 5822. M: 041 830 3437. mailto: scrop...@botanicusaustralia.com.au web: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] REVISED VERSION: Your Online Resources - what license is it published under and have you not released information due to licensing issues
Hi, ** sorry for the duplication on lists, but I am keen to get a large sample ** PREABLE *** I have been informed that I have approached this the wrong way and there is some concern that my request is not bonafide. 1. This is not a commercial survey. 2. The results, if any, will be used to help form an argument to be presented at Internet meeting of the OSGeo Education Group on Friday. My premise is that licensing issues can put people off or prevent people from releasing good material onto the Internet. 3. I have reviewed various sites outlining license types and read blogs about what licenses various people use or suggest you use but have not found anything that says 50% of people publish there stuff undaer a particular license. 4. I have republished this list of questions. Individually to each mail list because I have been informed that replying to all with the original post will bounce. For people that don't know me I suggest you visit my website. I am involved in various Open source efforts and have been releasing documentation myself under a Creative Commons license. ORIGINAL POST * I would like to canvas all of you. Please either send your response to the lists or to me directly (the latter will avoid clogging the lists with responses). I will tally and publish the summary of results ASAP. I don't intend to specify individuals just provide tallies of licenses used and reasons for not publishing. I hope to use this in future discussions regarding licensing relevant to OSGeo Members and potential obstacles to the release of valuable reference material and how these obstacles can be addressed. The questions are... 1. Under what license do you release online resources (forum posts, blogs, books, videos, tutorials, documents) that you publish? 2(a). Have you not released information due to licensing issues? 2(b). If so, why? (short answers please) If you do not specify the license implicitly on your work please indicate not specified. It is implied then that local copyright laws apply in which case indicate the country forum hosted in. If you publish under different licenses depending on your output please split you response into type of material created. If you accept the license of the site provider indicate this and preferably indicate what license this is. For example... 1. stuff released... - Ubuntu forum posts; site provider license; not specified (UK) - OSGeo forum posts; site provider license; not specified (USA) - Make-Believe forum post; Public Domain - private blogs; not specified (Aust) - company website; work protected under Australian Copyright Act 1969. - tutorials; Creative Commons (+Attr. -Deri. -Comm.) 2a. stuff not released... - tutorials using sample projects, data use prevented by someone else's copyright or by a Data Supply Agreements. - tutorials showing specific methods, avoid competitors knowing how to conduct certain analysis - any documents, concern quality will be degraded as others translate or change works to meet their own means. - any documents, concern that work will be used for commercial gain by others to no benefit to myself. - any documents, too much like hard work to get permission to use local datasets relevant to my industry (i.e. red tape) If you know of other people that publish or don't publish on the web involved in the FOSS4G community please feel free to send this email to them. Hopefully I will get enough responses that the result is meaningful. Please have you results in by Friday, 30 July 2010 at 07:00:00 UTC Time. [1] Thanks in advance... PS. I know that this is only a short time but my experience is that people either answer straight away or not at all. [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7day=30year=2010hour=7min=0sec=0p1=0 -- Cheers Simon Simon Cropper Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160, Sunshine, Victoria 3020. P: 9311 5822. M: 041 830 3437. mailto: scrop...@botanicusaustralia.com.au web: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
