[OSGeo-Discuss] Support of 4D (time based) data sets

2010-09-07 Thread Timmie
Dear all,
I am investigating in using netcdf as data format that could integrate the time
dimension into GIS.
The NASA tool Panoply (http://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/panoply/) does this quite
nicely.

I have seen that there was an initiative from uDig in GSoC 2009:
Getting time into the GIS for visualization and modeling puposes: netcdf support
in uDig by Andrea Antonello 
http://jgrass.wiki.software.bz.it/jgrass/weekly_reports

So my question:
* has above mentioned development for netcdf support landed in uDig main code?
* are there any other end-user GIS like QGIS or gvSIG that support time-based
data sets like Panoply (going forward and backword in time-dependant modelled
spatial data sets easily)?


Thanks in advance,
Timmie

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Support of 4D (time based) data sets

2010-09-07 Thread andrea antonello
Hi Timmie,

 I am investigating in using netcdf as data format that could integrate the 
 time
 dimension into GIS.
 The NASA tool Panoply (http://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/panoply/) does this 
 quite
 nicely.

I think it doesn't if you have small local datasets, I have never been
able to zoom in.

 I have seen that there was an initiative from uDig in GSoC 2009:
 Getting time into the GIS for visualization and modeling puposes: netcdf 
 support
 in uDig by Andrea Antonello
 http://jgrass.wiki.software.bz.it/jgrass/weekly_reports

 So my question:
 * has above mentioned development for netcdf support landed in uDig main code?

Sadly not yet. But there is more sadness to it. The code lives in
JGrass and the current uDig version has a library mismatch that
doesn't make the use of netcdf from JGrass possible. We are planning
to solve this for the 1.2.1 release of uDig, but there is no strict
timeline for that right now.
Anyways the netcdf part in JGrass is actively maintained and you can
indeed browse the maps through time, as well as the non-map parts
(http://jgrasstechtips.blogspot.com/2010/01/netcdf-in-jgrass-non-spatial-part.html).
I already had some requests in the uDig and JGrass lists to solve the
problem, I will as soon as possible.

Ciao,
Andrea


 * are there any other end-user GIS like QGIS or gvSIG that support time-based
 data sets like Panoply (going forward and backword in time-dependant modelled
 spatial data sets easily)?


 Thanks in advance,
 Timmie

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Support of 4D (time based) data sets

2010-09-07 Thread Timmie
Hello Andrea,
thanks for answering.

 I think it doesn't if you have small local datasets, I have never been
 able to zoom in.
But at least it works...
 
 Sadly not yet. But there is more sadness to it. The code lives in
 JGrass and the current uDig version has a library mismatch that
 doesn't make the use of netcdf from JGrass possible. We are planning
 to solve this for the 1.2.1 release of uDig, but there is no strict
 timeline for that right now.
I understand.

 Anyways the netcdf part in JGrass is actively maintained and you can
 indeed browse the maps through time, as well as the non-map parts

(http://jgrasstechtips.blogspot.com/2010/01/netcdf-in-jgrass-non-spatial-part.html).
Does that mean that if I install the current version of JGrass I'd get the
functionality you implemented?

 I already had some requests in the uDig and JGrass lists to solve the
 problem, I will as soon as possible.
Great.

The target for the 4D GIS use is to visulaise modeling result in combination
with more feature data. The analysis and modelling is done with other tools
Note: I currently haven't settled on any system. I slightly favour the QGIS
system because of its possibility to code a plugin in python.

Anyway, thaks for your initiative and effort.

Regards,
Timmie

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Support of 4D (time based) data sets

2010-09-07 Thread Timmie
 Sadly not yet. But there is more sadness to it. The code lives in
 JGrass and the current uDig version has a library mismatch that
 doesn't make the use of netcdf from JGrass possible. We are planning
 to solve this for the 1.2.1 release of uDig, but there is no strict
 timeline for that right now.
 Anyways the netcdf part in JGrass is actively maintained and you can
 indeed browse the maps through time, as well as the non-map parts

(http://jgrasstechtips.blogspot.com/2010/01/netcdf-in-jgrass-non-spatial-part.html).
one question:
how do you intend to deal with aggregated data sets?

E.g. 10-years average for every month of the year.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Support of 4D (time based) data sets

2010-09-07 Thread Mike Toews
On 7 September 2010 04:11, Timmie timmichel...@gmx-topmail.de wrote:
 how do you intend to deal with aggregated data sets?
 E.g. 10-years average for every month of the year.

For all calculations on NetCDF files (including your example), you can
try NCO[1]. These command-line tools require extensive documentation
reading, and I recommend keeping a log of notes for commands that
work. Many useful examples are also provided in the documentation.

On 7 September 2010 03:16, andrea antonello andrea.antone...@gmail.com wrote:
 The NASA tool Panoply (http://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/panoply/) does this 
 quite
 nicely.

 I think it doesn't if you have small local datasets, I have never been
 able to zoom in.

I used ncview[2] to view and produce images for animations used in
presentations (using imagemagick). All my NC files were in a small
region using UTM coordinates, so many viewers didn't know how to show
the data.

[1] http://nco.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://meteora.ucsd.edu/~pierce/ncview_home_page.html (this needs
X and needs to be compiled -- no binaries or packages available)

-Mike
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[OSGeo-Discuss] question about Tile retriever, if such a beast exists. . . .

2010-09-07 Thread Bob Basques
All, 

I have a question about a tile maker routine that may or may not exist (or 
project about).  I would like to be able to build a local cache of image tiles 
based solely on URL scripting, as in grab the tiles for an area automatically 
based on a Area of interest (BBOX) coordinate set. 

Anyone worked on some client code (either server or client side) for something 
like this? Sort of a pack and go Raster pyramid builder. 

Thanks 

bobb 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] question about Tile retriever, if such a beast exists. . . .

2010-09-07 Thread Arnie Shore
Bobb, hiya.  Now, ... grab the tiles ... from where?

I have a PHP script that given corner coords and zoom range, will build a
directory set of tiles DL'd from OSM.  (And the Open layers script that will
call it.)

Dunno if this is close?

AS

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bob Basques bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.uswrote:

  All,

  I have a question ...

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] question about Tile retriever, if such a beastexists. . . .

2010-09-07 Thread Bob Basques
grab from where,  . .   

. . . from any (raster) image server. 

Your script sounds close, although I'm interested in grabbing directly from 
MapServer as well as WMS feeds.  It would get me started and probably lead to a 
mechanism of some sort that would allow for retrieving from these various 
services at the very least. 

If you feel inclined to share . . . 

thanks 

bobb 




 Arnie Shore shor...@gmail.com wrote:

Bobb, hiya. Now, ... grab the tiles ... from where?

I have a PHP script that given corner coords and zoom range, will build a 
directory set of tiles DL'd from OSM. (And the Open layers script that will 
call it.)

Dunno if this is close?

AS


On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bob Basques 
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us 

wrote:


All, 


I have a question ...



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Support of 4D (time based) data sets

2010-09-07 Thread cruiserad
have you looked at geozui4d? it's done by dr Colin Ware, U. New Hampshire. the 
link is here:
http://vislab-ccom.unh.edu/GeoZui4D/
Note: i had troubble trying to load in ubuntu




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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Support of 4D (time based) data sets

On 7 September 2010 04:11, Timmie  wrote:
 how do you intend to deal with aggregated data sets?
 E.g. 10-years average for every month of the year.

For all calculations on NetCDF files (including your example), you can
try NCO[1]. These command-line tools require extensive documentation
reading, and I recommend keeping a log of notes for commands that
work. Many useful examples are also provided in the documentation.

On 7 September 2010 03:16, andrea antonello  wrote:
 The NASA tool Panoply (http://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/panoply/) does this 
 quite
 nicely.

 I think it doesn't if you have small local datasets, I have never been
 able to zoom in.

I used ncview[2] to view and produce images for animations used in
presentations (using imagemagick). All my NC files were in a small
region using UTM coordinates, so many viewers didn't know how to show
the data.

[1] http://nco.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://meteora.ucsd.edu/~pierce/ncview_home_page.html (this needs
X and needs to be compiled -- no binaries or packages available)

-Mike
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] question about Tile retriever, if such abeastexists. . . .

2010-09-07 Thread Bob Basques
Thanks. 

I'll let you know when I have something to look at. 

bobb 




 Arnie Shore shor...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, as Cleopatra said to Caesar, I'm not inclined to argue. The controlling 
coordinates are at lines 59-64; no dependencies I can think of. Loads into 
sub-directory 'tiles'.

FYI, there's a one-second sleep at 26 to avoid hammering OSM.

AS


On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Bob Basques 
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us 

wrote:


grab from where, . . 


. . . from any (raster) image server. 


Your script sounds close, although I'm interested in grabbing directly from 
MapServer as well as WMS feeds. It would get me started and probably lead to a 
mechanism of some sort that would allow for retrieving from these various 
services at the very least. 


If you feel inclined to share . . . 


thanks 


bobb 






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[OSGeo-Discuss] Street address to coordinates database lookup?

2010-09-07 Thread Peter

In NZ as i guess in most places we have a national system of rural property 
addressing (RAPID) where the street number is based on how many meters down the 
road the property gate is. These are stored in Land Informations property on 
line database.

My question is there any official or unofficial ways to access this street 
number to latlong coords data online?

Googlemaps evidently has access to it for its searchs, failing better methods 
perhaps scrape their results page???

Peter
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Street address to coordinates database lookup?

2010-09-07 Thread Mike Toews
FYI, the terms you are looking for is geocoding and reverse geocoding

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocoding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_geocoding

But I haven't done much of this myself, so that's where I stop being useful.

-Mike

On 7 September 2010 15:01, Peter web...@pl.net wrote:
 In NZ as i guess in most places we have a national system of rural property
 addressing (RAPID) where the street number is based on how many meters down
 the road the property gate is. These are stored in Land Informations
 property on line database.

 My question is there any official or unofficial ways to access this street
 number to latlong coords data online?

 Googlemaps evidently has access to it for its searchs, failing better
 methods perhaps scrape their results page???

 Peter
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GRASS GIS 6.4.0 released

2010-09-07 Thread Markus Neteler
GRASS GIS 6.4.0 released
http://grass.osgeo.org

We are pleased to announce the new stable version of GRASS GIS. As a
stable release GRASS 6.4 will enjoy long term support. While active
development has continued in the background, due to our highly
conservative stabilization policy this is the first official release of
GRASS to introduce new features since October 2006. It supersedes the
previous stable GRASS 6.2 line while remaining backward-compatible with
all previous releases since 6.0. As such there are a host of new features
to explore and it incorporates many structural improvements.

GRASS 6.4 debuts our new and improved wxPython graphical user
interface (wxGUI); Python is now a fully supported scripting language;
and for the first time since its inception with a port from the VAX
11/780 in 1983, GRASS now runs natively on a non-UNIX based platform:
MS-Windows. GRASS has been translated into twenty languages and
supports a wide array of popular data formats.

GRASS differs from many other GIS software packages used in the academic
and professional worlds in that it is developed and distributed by users
for users, mostly on a volunteer basis, in the open, and is given away for
free. The source code is also freely available, allowing for immediate
customization, examination of the underlying algorithms, addition of new
features, and faster patching of bugs.


Full story at
http://grass.osgeo.org/announces/announce_grass640.html
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Street address to coordinates database lookup?

2010-09-07 Thread Peter

Brilliant, the name helps a lot.

http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/geocoding/

Licensed for use only with google maps, i guess thats as good as ill get.

Peter


Mike Toews wrote:

FYI, the terms you are looking for is geocoding and reverse geocoding

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocoding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_geocoding

But I haven't done much of this myself, so that's where I stop being useful.

-Mike

On 7 September 2010 15:01, Peterweb...@pl.net  wrote:

In NZ as i guess in most places we have a national system of rural property
addressing (RAPID) where the street number is based on how many meters down
the road the property gate is. These are stored in Land Informations
property on line database.

My question is there any official or unofficial ways to access this street
number to latlong coords data online?

Googlemaps evidently has access to it for its searchs, failing better
methods perhaps scrape their results page???

Peter
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Street address to coordinates database lookup?

2010-09-07 Thread Arnie Shore
No need to screen-scrape; the GMaps API provides for geocoding in both
directions.

Secondly, White Pages also provides an API for US telco land-line  numbers.
See http://developer.whitepages.com/

NZ ??

AS

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Mike Toews mwto...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI, the terms you are looking for is geocoding and reverse geocoding

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocoding
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_geocoding

 But I haven't done much of this myself, so that's where I stop being
 useful.

 -Mike

 On 7 September 2010 15:01, Peter web...@pl.net wrote:
  In NZ as i guess in most places we have a national system of rural
 property
  addressing (RAPID) where the street number is based on how many meters
 down
  the road the property gate is. These are stored in Land Informations
  property on line database.
 
  My question is there any official or unofficial ways to access this
 street
  number to latlong coords data online?
 
  Googlemaps evidently has access to it for its searchs, failing better
  methods perhaps scrape their results page???
 
  Peter

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