Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

2013-03-07 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote:

 So how many lower-rate slots would that require? We've got 17
 official projects and 7 incubating projects according to the home
 page summary. With this year's rates (full 350 £, student 240 £)
 and only 2 developers per project it could account for a difference
 up to 110 £ * 48 = 5280 £. Not terrible after all.

 I thnk it's far less than that. Hopefully this will bring people that
 otherwise would not come, so no net cost (and a lot more value to the
 conference, and a more developer friendly attitude).

Given the recent strategic message, I don't think its in the local
FOSS4G committee's role to provide bursaries beyond the
well-established student discount - certainly not for 2013 Nottingham
anyway. If OSGEO want to do that, then they can consider it as a skim
off the conference profits. I'm sure the local committee will be glad
to point people to OSGEO bursaries from the conference web page.

 We just need to hear from OSGEO purse-holders to see if they are willing.

 I think we already have someone providing education-related
bursaries, so there's a precedent.

Barry
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

2013-03-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 07/03/2013 12:03, Barry Rowlingson ha scritto:

 Given the recent strategic message, I don't think its in the local 
 FOSS4G committee's role to provide bursaries beyond the 
 well-established student discount - certainly not for 2013
 Nottingham anyway. If OSGEO want to do that, then they can consider
 it as a skim off the conference profits. I'm sure the local
 committee will be glad to point people to OSGEO bursaries from the
 conference web page.
 
 We just need to hear from OSGEO purse-holders to see if they are
 willing.
 
 I think we already have someone providing education-related 
 bursaries, so there's a precedent.

Hi Barry,
I think we are mixing two issues here:
* 0 fees for developers - as I pointed out, this is not a cost for the
conference, but rather an advantage (participants are more likely to
come if the know most top developers are present); my suggestion is
that this should become a requirement from OSGeo
* bursaries to cover travelling and lodging; this is outside my
original proposal, and should be treated differently.
All the best.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free Developer Slots at FOSS4G events: [was RE: FW: [Board] OSGeo Board Priorities]

2013-03-07 Thread Jody Garnett
 I think we are mixing two issues here:
 * 0 fees for developers - as I pointed out, this is not a cost for the
 conference, but rather an advantage (participants are more likely to
 come if the know most top developers are present); my suggestion is
 that this should become a requirement from OSGeo

I am unlikely to attend foss4g this year either way.

Many of the developers I know can only attend conferences when their fees are 
covered (as a speaker or by giving a workshop). So while I am not automatically 
in favour of 0 fees for developers - it would have a large impact on enabling 
developers to attend.

Cheers,
Jody
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