[OSGeo-Discuss] inspire conference 2013 paper and workshop

2013-05-22 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Hi all,

thanks to Margherita, we now know, that the presentation proposal [1]
for this years INSPIRE conference in Florence was accepted as Poster and
the workshop proposed [2] was accepted under the condition, that we
merge it together with the workshop from GeoSolution and their MapStore.

Workshop:
-
I would like to ask all people, who are *going* to Florence and *want to
actively participate* at the workshop, put your name there [3].

Deadline: Monday 27.5.2013.
Reason for that: we need to make sure, someone will come and will
something to say.

Poster:
---
Things have changed a bit. I already collected some informations about
our projects based on their changelogs (for my Czech presentation next
week) - somewhere I was successful more, somewhere less. Since I do not
use all our projects as power-user and since I really do not follow
their development in detail, and I doubt, anybody does, the content must
be community driven.

Apparently I'm failing with the management at this point, since nobody
started yet. I'll approach my usual way: prepare some miserable content
and wait, till other people see it and will try to fix my crude way of
content formulating.

And since it is a poster and not a presentation, cooperation will have
to be done differently. But I know my limits and believe me, you don't
want to see any graphical work from me. Who is *the* OSGeo poster expert
for such cases? Who will print it?

Jachym

[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Paper_proposal
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal
[3]
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#People_going_to_Florence_and_wanting_to_actively_participate_at_the_workshop

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-22 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Hi All!

*Latest updates:*
I talked to the conference organisers and came out that there is the
possibility to maintain separate the two workshop, because there's an
available slot for a workshop on Sunday morning. I talked to Simone and he
very kindly made himself available to take this slot, hence we will have
the whole 90 minutes at our disposal for the OSGeo workshop, that will take
place presumably on Monday morning.


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini 
simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it wrote:

 Ciao Jachym,
 a few clarifications below...

 Regards,
 Simone Giannecchini
 ==
 GeoServer training in Milan, 6th  7th June 2013! Visit
 http://geoserver.geo-solutions.it for more information.
 ==

 Ing. Simone Giannecchini
 @simogeo
 Founder/Director

 GeoSolutions S.A.S.
 Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
 55054  Massarosa (LU)
 Italy
 phone: +39 0584 962313
 fax: +39 0584 1660272
 mob:   +39 333 8128928

 http://www.geo-solutions.it
 http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

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 On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
 jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Madi,
 
  I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
  - do you know by chance, how far the process is?
 
  As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
  product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.
 
  I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
  I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
  have to share their time with pure OSGeo.
 
  From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
  workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
  share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
  (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
  company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.
 

 That was exactly my proposal :)
 We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
 workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
 actually contraddicted what was asked from
 the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
 precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
 workshop at the end.


  NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
  think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
  committee forses us to compete as international organization with
  semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
  see it completely wrong?)
 

 Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
 try to change things :)
 I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
 admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
 as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
 bit of what we do.

  I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
  important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
  brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
  little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).
 
  Thanks
 
  Jachym
 
  Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
  Dear All,
 
  as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an
 email
  from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
  space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small
 number of
  the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their
 request
  was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by
 Simone
  Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
 
  Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
  MapStore
 
  Simone was in cc in this email.
  I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
  possible scenarios:
 
  1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
  2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
 
  Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide
 for
  the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
  minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
  comfortably.
 
  Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
  workshop, and the proposal would be something like:
 
  Ping-Pong match: OSGeo  INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using
 MapStore
  for INSPIRE Services mashups)
 
  Of course also this is open to discussion.
 
  Please let me know ASAP your reaction.
 
  Thank you and best regards,
 
  Margherita
 
 
 
 
  [1]
 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal
 
 
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-22 Thread Stephan Meißl
Hi all,

same here, as said in the beginning I'm unfortunately not able to travel
but will contribute material mainly from MapServer as needed.

cu
Stephan


On 05/21/2013 08:45 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Sorry for my later reply.
 I agree with the suggested solution to split the workshop time, I don't
 see another way to do this.
 
 As we discussed in the initial hangout, unfortunately I won't be able to
 attend, but I will contribute with workshop material.
 
 Best regards,
 Angelos
 
 On 05/21/2013 09:23 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
 Hi,

 thank you for your thoughts. I'm a bit surprised that I didn't hear from
 other co-authors. At this point I would like to know who is planning to be
 there at the workshop anyway.

 Thanks

 On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini 
 simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it wrote:

 Ciao Jachym,
 a few clarifications below...

 Regards,
 Simone Giannecchini
 ==
 GeoServer training in Milan, 6th  7th June 2013! Visit
 http://geoserver.geo-solutions.it for more information.
 ==

 Ing. Simone Giannecchini
 @simogeo
 Founder/Director

 GeoSolutions S.A.S.
 Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
 55054  Massarosa (LU)
 Italy
 phone: +39 0584 962313
 fax: +39 0584 1660272
 mob:   +39 333 8128928

 http://www.geo-solutions.it
 http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

 ---


 On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
 jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Madi,

 I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
 - do you know by chance, how far the process is?

 As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
 product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.

 I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
 I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
 have to share their time with pure OSGeo.

 From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
 workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
 share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
 (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
 company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.

 That was exactly my proposal :)
 We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
 workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
 actually contraddicted what was asked from
 the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
 precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
 workshop at the end.


 NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
 think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
 committee forses us to compete as international organization with
 semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
 see it completely wrong?)

 Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
 try to change things :)
 I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
 admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
 as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
 bit of what we do.

 I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
 important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
 brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
 little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).

 Thanks

 Jachym

 Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
 Dear All,

 as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an
 email
 from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
 space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small
 number of
 the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their
 request
 was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by
 Simone
 Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:

 Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
 MapStore

 Simone was in cc in this email.
 I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
 possible scenarios:

 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.

 Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide
 for
 the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
 minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
 comfortably.

 Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
 workshop, and the proposal would be something like:

 Ping-Pong match: OSGeo  INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using
 MapStore
 for INSPIRE Services mashups)

 Of course also this is open to discussion.

 Please let me know ASAP your reaction.

 Thank you and best regards,

 Margherita




 [1]
 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] inspire conference 2013 paper and workshop

2013-05-22 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Hi Jachym and all,


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 thanks to Margherita, we now know, that the presentation proposal [1]
 for this years INSPIRE conference in Florence was accepted as Poster and
 the workshop proposed [2] was accepted under the condition, that we
 merge it together with the workshop from GeoSolution and their MapStore.


As I wrote in the other thread - but I'd repeat it for the record - this is
no longer the case, thanks to the organisers and to Simone who kindly
accepted to take another slot on Sunday morning.  So at the moment we have
a full slot of 90 minutes to cover, on Monday.


 Workshop:
 -
 I would like to ask all people, who are *going* to Florence and *want to
 actively participate* at the workshop, put your name there [3].


Thank you Jachym to have raised this crucial point. I would kindly invite
those available to actively participate (in person) at the workshop to show
up, otherwise I fear that we'll have to drop the idea.


 Deadline: Monday 27.5.2013.
 Reason for that: we need to make sure, someone will come and will
 something to say.


Thanks.
Best, madi




 [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Paper_proposal
 [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal
 [3]

 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#People_going_to_Florence_and_wanting_to_actively_participate_at_the_workshop

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European Commission - DG JRC
Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES)
Via Fermi, 2749
I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261

Tel. +39 0332 78 3600
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