[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Membership and/or upcoming elections

2014-05-07 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
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Folks,
there always was a lot of discussion and different opinions about how we
manage OSGeo membership.

This usually happened when the elections process had already started.
After the fact everything quieted down again until - same procedure as
every year.

Instead of volunteering to go through the holistically not automated
process of manually searching 150+ mail addresses, verifying
individually with people and nudging us through elections that nobody
really thinks are useful I suggest to start a conversation (SIC! not a
discussion) [1] on how to change the current procedure, because change
it needs.

Before happily conversing away I suggest we all go back to what we
already have now and then proceed from there.

What we have:
http://www.osgeo.org/membership official documents

How we do it:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process

Why it sucks:
* It is a bit incestuous
* Hard to maintain
* Always ''feels'' a bit fishy
* Charter Members have nothing to do most of the time
* (Appears to) exclude normal people
* tbc ... please add your personal offense

Have fun,
Eight minus one


[1] Why not a discussion? Because discussions are usually based on
predefined opinions of which a single one can win whereas all others
lose. Instead I'd like to first see an animated collection of ideas
and later on a fleshing out process to find a new way of - well, what
exactly? Having folks become OSGeo members.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Membership and/or upcoming elections

2014-05-07 Thread Jeff McKenna
Also note that I've already planned to discuss elections at the next
Board meeting next week
(http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-05-15)...this likely
woke up the Seven-borg :)


-jeff



On 2014-05-07, 8:44 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:
 Folks, there always was a lot of discussion and different opinions
 about how we manage OSGeo membership.
 
 This usually happened when the elections process had already
 started. After the fact everything quieted down again until - same
 procedure as every year.
 
 Instead of volunteering to go through the holistically not
 automated process of manually searching 150+ mail addresses,
 verifying individually with people and nudging us through elections
 that nobody really thinks are useful I suggest to start a
 conversation (SIC! not a discussion) [1] on how to change the
 current procedure, because change it needs.
 
 Before happily conversing away I suggest we all go back to what we 
 already have now and then proceed from there.
 
 What we have: http://www.osgeo.org/membership official documents
 
 How we do it: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process
 
 Why it sucks: * It is a bit incestuous * Hard to maintain * Always
 ''feels'' a bit fishy * Charter Members have nothing to do most of
 the time * (Appears to) exclude normal people * tbc ... please add
 your personal offense
 
 Have fun, Eight minus one
 
 
 [1] Why not a discussion? Because discussions are usually based on 
 predefined opinions of which a single one can win whereas all
 others lose. Instead I'd like to first see an animated collection
 of ideas and later on a fleshing out process to find a new way of -
 well, what exactly? Having folks become OSGeo members.
 
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Membership and/or upcoming elections

2014-05-07 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
So elections are to add to our membership, then elections should support 
that activity. Maybe the conversation needs to be also about what OSGeo 
wants out of its members because that would drive the process of how to 
select them.


-Steve

On 5/7/2014 7:44 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:

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Folks,
there always was a lot of discussion and different opinions about how we
manage OSGeo membership.

This usually happened when the elections process had already started.
After the fact everything quieted down again until - same procedure as
every year.

Instead of volunteering to go through the holistically not automated
process of manually searching 150+ mail addresses, verifying
individually with people and nudging us through elections that nobody
really thinks are useful I suggest to start a conversation (SIC! not a
discussion) [1] on how to change the current procedure, because change
it needs.

Before happily conversing away I suggest we all go back to what we
already have now and then proceed from there.

What we have:
http://www.osgeo.org/membership official documents

How we do it:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process

Why it sucks:
* It is a bit incestuous
* Hard to maintain
* Always ''feels'' a bit fishy
* Charter Members have nothing to do most of the time
* (Appears to) exclude normal people
* tbc ... please add your personal offense

Have fun,
Eight minus one


[1] Why not a discussion? Because discussions are usually based on
predefined opinions of which a single one can win whereas all others
lose. Instead I'd like to first see an animated collection of ideas
and later on a fleshing out process to find a new way of - well, what
exactly? Having folks become OSGeo members.


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Save the dates for FOSS4G NA 2015

2014-05-07 Thread Andrew Ross

Hello Everyone,

(cross posted to OSGeo-discuss  LocationTech-iwg)

We have a brief announcement regarding FOSS4G NA 2015 
http://42aross.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/save-the-dates-for-foss4g-north-america-2015/. 
It will be held on March 9-12, 2015 at the Hyatt Regency in Burlingame, 
California.


For what it's worth, our venue RFP was targeted at a number of cities 
including Washington D.C., San Francisco, Boston, Atlanta, Austin, and 
more. Based on the criteria including size, cost, quality, accessibility 
and related criteria, Burlingame came out the winner. It's a beautiful 
venue! Organizing is going full steam ahead... more soon.


Kind regards,

Andrew
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