[OSGeo-Discuss] Invitation to AGSE 2014
Dear all, The ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS research lab at Stuttgart University of Applied Science http://www.hft-stuttgart.de/Studienbereiche/Vermessung/Master-Photogrammetry-Geoinformatics/Labs/ICA-OSGeo-Labor/index.html/en?set_language=encl=en led by Prof. Franz-Josef Behr, are organising the AGSE - Applied Geoinformatics for Society and Environment-Conference 2014 on November 5th-7th, 2014 in Stuttgart, Germany . The overall scope of AGSE is to offer an interdisciplinary, international forum for sharing knowledge about the science and application of Geoinformatics with focus on developing countries. They will also be live streaming the opening session of the conference worldwide, so those of you who are interested please register online and join on 5th November , 2014 (2:15 - 4:35 pm CET). Details at https://www.alumniportal-deutschland.org/en/webinars-events/webinars/continuing-geospatial-education.html All are welcome. Best wishes, Suchith From: ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Franz-Josef Behr [franz-josef.b...@hft-stuttgart.de] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:51 AM To: ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Invitation to AGSE 2014 Dear colleagues, next week our University/our lab organizes its 7th alumni school and conference AGSE 2014 - Continuing Geospatial Education [1], this year in Stuttgart, including invited keynotes, presentations, and hands-on workshops. I am convinced that we could compile an interesting programme! The event starts on Wednesday afternoon (with a preceeding workshop the two afternoons before) , and it is still possible to register. Details can be found in the programme [2]. I ask you to circulate this announcement to interested epople. The opening session will be streamed onlin through the German Alumni Portal Site [3]. Best regards Franz-Josef [1] http://www.applied-geoinformatics.org/agse2014.html [2] http://www.applied-geoinformatics.org/downloads/Agenda%20of%20Sessions_AGSE_2014_2014_10_28.pdf [3] https://www.alumniportal-deutschland.org/en/webinars-events/webinars.html (the photo currently there is no really geospatial) ___ ica-osgeo-labs mailing list ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ica-osgeo-labs This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] open-source WCS client apps available
Hi coveragists, thought I share this with you, there are new mobile WCS clients available, established in EU EarthServer (www.earthserver.eu) by COMETA under an open source regime: - native Android app: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/14/tree/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile/ Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.infn.ct.earthserverSGmobile source: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/14/tree/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile/ To check out src code: svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile EarthServerSGMobile - Appcelerator Titanium app built for iOS: App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/earthserver-sg-mobile/id740603213?ls=1mt=8 http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/15/tree/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile/source: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/15/tree/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile/ To check out src code: svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile EarthServer-SG-Mobile Roberto (on cc) can answer technical questions being leader of the development team. cheers, Peter -- Dr. Peter Baumann - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann mail: p.baum...@jacobs-university.de tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) www.rasdaman.com, mail: baum...@rasdaman.com tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (mail disclaimer, AD 1083) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open-source WCS client apps available
Hey Peter, when you say “new I was a bit surprised to see the code was last updated mid 2013. What’s the story with that? Best regards, Bart On 29 Oct 2014, at 19:19, Peter Baumann p.baum...@jacobs-university.de wrote: Hi coveragists, thought I share this with you, there are new mobile WCS clients available, established in EU EarthServer (www.earthserver.eu) by COMETA under an open source regime: - native Android app: Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.infn.ct.earthserverSGmobile source: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/14/tree/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile/ To check out src code: svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile EarthServerSGMobile - Appcelerator Titanium app built for iOS: App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/earthserver-sg-mobile/id740603213?ls=1mt=8 source: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/15/tree/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile/ To check out src code: svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile EarthServer-SG-Mobile Roberto (on cc) can answer technical questions being leader of the development team. cheers, Peter -- Dr. Peter Baumann - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann mail: p.baum...@jacobs-university.de tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) www.rasdaman.com, mail: baum...@rasdaman.com tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (mail disclaimer, AD 1083) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open-source WCS client apps available
you caught me :) it's new in the sense that the EarthServer project has wound up and we are consolidating results from a rasdaman perspective. Indeed, they have been implemented earlier, and in 2014 they have been applied to several services (geology, EO, etc). Hope that demystifies a little. -Peter On 10/29/2014 07:34 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote: Hey Peter, when you say “new I was a bit surprised to see the code was last updated mid 2013. What’s the story with that? Best regards, Bart On 29 Oct 2014, at 19:19, Peter Baumann p.baum...@jacobs-university.de mailto:p.baum...@jacobs-university.de wrote: Hi coveragists, thought I share this with you, there are new mobile WCS clients available, established in EU EarthServer (www.earthserver.eu) by COMETA under an open source regime: - native Android app: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/14/tree/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile/ Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.infn.ct.earthserverSGmobile source: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/14/tree/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile/ To check out src code: svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile EarthServerSGMobile - Appcelerator Titanium app built for iOS: App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/earthserver-sg-mobile/id740603213?ls=1mt=8 http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/15/tree/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile/source: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/15/tree/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile/ To check out src code: svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile EarthServer-SG-Mobile Roberto (on cc) can answer technical questions being leader of the development team. cheers, Peter -- Dr. Peter Baumann - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann mail: p.baum...@jacobs-university.de tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) www.rasdaman.com, mail: baum...@rasdaman.com tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (mail disclaimer, AD 1083) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Dr. Peter Baumann - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann mail: p.baum...@jacobs-university.de tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) www.rasdaman.com, mail: baum...@rasdaman.com tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (mail disclaimer, AD 1083) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open-source WCS client apps available
you caught me :) it's new in the sense that the EarthServer project has wound up and we are consolidating results from a rasdaman perspective. Indeed, they have been implemented earlier, and in 2014 they have been applied to several services (geology, EO, etc). Hope that demystifies a little. -Peter On 10/29/2014 07:34 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote: Hey Peter, when you say “new I was a bit surprised to see the code was last updated mid 2013. What’s the story with that? Best regards, Bart On 29 Oct 2014, at 19:19, Peter Baumann p.baum...@jacobs-university.de mailto:p.baum...@jacobs-university.de wrote: Hi coveragists, thought I share this with you, there are new mobile WCS clients available, established in EU EarthServer (www.earthserver.eu) by COMETA under an open source regime: - native Android app: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/14/tree/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile/ Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.infn.ct.earthserverSGmobile source: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/14/tree/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile/ To check out src code: svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/trunk/Android/EarthServerSGMobile EarthServerSGMobile - Appcelerator Titanium app built for iOS: App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/earthserver-sg-mobile/id740603213?ls=1mt=8 http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/15/tree/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile/source: http://sourceforge.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/15/tree/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile/ To check out src code: svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/ctsciencegtwys/mobile/trunk/iOS/EarthServer-SG-Mobile EarthServer-SG-Mobile Roberto (on cc) can answer technical questions being leader of the development team. cheers, Peter -- Dr. Peter Baumann - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann mail: p.baum...@jacobs-university.de tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) www.rasdaman.com, mail: baum...@rasdaman.com tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (mail disclaimer, AD 1083) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Dr. Peter Baumann - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann mail: p.baum...@jacobs-university.de tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) www.rasdaman.com, mail: baum...@rasdaman.com tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata. (mail disclaimer, AD 1083) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Short codes for locations
Hi Doug, An interesting and potentially useful concept. It sounds like you are proposing a spatial standard. Have you approached the Open Geospatial Consortium about getting the standard endorsed? With regards to any code which you wish to produce and open source, I suggest considering bringing it under the umbrella of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). Details about OSGeo incubation here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator On 30/10/2014 1:08 am, Doug Rinckes wrote: I'm an engineer at Google, and I have just open sourced a geo project we've been working on for a while. I used to work on our maps, detecting missing road networks and in my spare time mapping roads in Papua New Guinea, Central and West Africa from the satellite imagery. But without street names or addresses, a road network isn't all that useful. People can't use it for directions, because they can't express where they want directions to. After talking with colleagues from around the world, I discovered that's it actually very common for streets to be unnamed. We thought that we should provide short codes that could be used like addresses, to give the location of homes, businesses, anything. If we made them usable from smartphones, we can make addresses for anywhere available to anyone with a smartphone pretty much immediately. We had some specific requirements, including that these address codes should work offline, they shouldn't spell words or include easily confused characters. We wanted to be able to look at two codes and tell if they are near each other, and estimate the direction and even the distance. The codes should not be generated by a single provider, because what do you do when they disappear? Finally, it had to be open sourced. Open sourcing the project was important. We wanted to allow everyone to evaluate it so that we don't go implementing something that turns out to not be useful. If it does turn out to be useful, everyone (including other mapping providers) should be able to implement it and use the codes freely. I'm pre-announcing this to a couple of geo lists today, and I'll be sticking around for comments and questions. The following links provide more information: Github project: https://github.com/google/open-location-code Demonstration website: http://plus.codes http://plus.codes/ Discussion list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/open-location-code https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code Enjoy! Doug ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Short codes for locations
This sounds very much like the Natural Area Coding (NAC) system: http://www.nacgeo.com/ Interesting idea in theory, but in practice this has been around for over a decade and hasn't really taken off, quite likely because an alphanumerical code is not of much more use than pure geographic coordinates. Or maybe it's like the case of rasters in a database [1] and this concept just needs a strong champion to sell us the idea and convince the world that we need it? Daniel [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2006-October/013569.html On 14-10-29 3:53 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Hi Doug, An interesting and potentially useful concept. It sounds like you are proposing a spatial standard. Have you approached the Open Geospatial Consortium about getting the standard endorsed? With regards to any code which you wish to produce and open source, I suggest considering bringing it under the umbrella of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). Details about OSGeo incubation here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator On 30/10/2014 1:08 am, Doug Rinckes wrote: I'm an engineer at Google, and I have just open sourced a geo project we've been working on for a while. I used to work on our maps, detecting missing road networks and in my spare time mapping roads in Papua New Guinea, Central and West Africa from the satellite imagery. But without street names or addresses, a road network isn't all that useful. People can't use it for directions, because they can't express where they want directions to. After talking with colleagues from around the world, I discovered that's it actually very common for streets to be unnamed. We thought that we should provide short codes that could be used like addresses, to give the location of homes, businesses, anything. If we made them usable from smartphones, we can make addresses for anywhere available to anyone with a smartphone pretty much immediately. We had some specific requirements, including that these address codes should work offline, they shouldn't spell words or include easily confused characters. We wanted to be able to look at two codes and tell if they are near each other, and estimate the direction and even the distance. The codes should not be generated by a single provider, because what do you do when they disappear? Finally, it had to be open sourced. Open sourcing the project was important. We wanted to allow everyone to evaluate it so that we don't go implementing something that turns out to not be useful. If it does turn out to be useful, everyone (including other mapping providers) should be able to implement it and use the codes freely. I'm pre-announcing this to a couple of geo lists today, and I'll be sticking around for comments and questions. The following links provide more information: Github project: https://github.com/google/open-location-code Demonstration website: http://plus.codes http://plus.codes/ Discussion list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/open-location-code https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code Enjoy! Doug ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000, Wwww.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel Morissette T: +1 418-696-5056 #201 http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Short codes for locations
Also has similarities to geohash. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geohash Lots of code in various languages use geohash already. Jon Scarbrough On 10/29/2014 03:34 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote: This sounds very much like the Natural Area Coding (NAC) system: http://www.nacgeo.com/ Interesting idea in theory, but in practice this has been around for over a decade and hasn't really taken off, quite likely because an alphanumerical code is not of much more use than pure geographic coordinates. Or maybe it's like the case of rasters in a database [1] and this concept just needs a strong champion to sell us the idea and convince the world that we need it? Daniel [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2006-October/013569.html On 14-10-29 3:53 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Hi Doug, An interesting and potentially useful concept. It sounds like you are proposing a spatial standard. Have you approached the Open Geospatial Consortium about getting the standard endorsed? With regards to any code which you wish to produce and open source, I suggest considering bringing it under the umbrella of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). Details about OSGeo incubation here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator On 30/10/2014 1:08 am, Doug Rinckes wrote: I'm an engineer at Google, and I have just open sourced a geo project we've been working on for a while. I used to work on our maps, detecting missing road networks and in my spare time mapping roads in Papua New Guinea, Central and West Africa from the satellite imagery. But without street names or addresses, a road network isn't all that useful. People can't use it for directions, because they can't express where they want directions to. After talking with colleagues from around the world, I discovered that's it actually very common for streets to be unnamed. We thought that we should provide short codes that could be used like addresses, to give the location of homes, businesses, anything. If we made them usable from smartphones, we can make addresses for anywhere available to anyone with a smartphone pretty much immediately. We had some specific requirements, including that these address codes should work offline, they shouldn't spell words or include easily confused characters. We wanted to be able to look at two codes and tell if they are near each other, and estimate the direction and even the distance. The codes should not be generated by a single provider, because what do you do when they disappear? Finally, it had to be open sourced. Open sourcing the project was important. We wanted to allow everyone to evaluate it so that we don't go implementing something that turns out to not be useful. If it does turn out to be useful, everyone (including other mapping providers) should be able to implement it and use the codes freely. I'm pre-announcing this to a couple of geo lists today, and I'll be sticking around for comments and questions. The following links provide more information: Github project: https://github.com/google/open-location-code Demonstration website: http://plus.codes http://plus.codes/ Discussion list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/open-location-code https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code Enjoy! Doug ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000, Wwww.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Short codes for locations
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: This sounds very much like the Natural Area Coding (NAC) system: http://www.nacgeo.com/ Interesting idea in theory, but in practice this has been around for over a decade and hasn't really taken off, quite likely because an alphanumerical code is not of much more use than pure geographic coordinates. Or maybe it's like the case of rasters in a database [1] and this concept just needs a strong champion to sell us the idea and convince the world that we need it? Or possibly because of non-open licensing terms? http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/licensing/ I think I have seen some web services teaming up with What3Words which does a similar thing except translates coords to a word triple via a proprietary, secret, server-based algorithm. Its cutesy nature (I live at monkey sponge gearstick) seems to appeal to many since it makes memorable locations. Anyhooo... Daniel [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2006-October/013569.html On 14-10-29 3:53 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Hi Doug, An interesting and potentially useful concept. It sounds like you are proposing a spatial standard. Have you approached the Open Geospatial Consortium about getting the standard endorsed? With regards to any code which you wish to produce and open source, I suggest considering bringing it under the umbrella of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). Details about OSGeo incubation here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator On 30/10/2014 1:08 am, Doug Rinckes wrote: I'm an engineer at Google, and I have just open sourced a geo project we've been working on for a while. I used to work on our maps, detecting missing road networks and in my spare time mapping roads in Papua New Guinea, Central and West Africa from the satellite imagery. But without street names or addresses, a road network isn't all that useful. People can't use it for directions, because they can't express where they want directions to. After talking with colleagues from around the world, I discovered that's it actually very common for streets to be unnamed. We thought that we should provide short codes that could be used like addresses, to give the location of homes, businesses, anything. If we made them usable from smartphones, we can make addresses for anywhere available to anyone with a smartphone pretty much immediately. We had some specific requirements, including that these address codes should work offline, they shouldn't spell words or include easily confused characters. We wanted to be able to look at two codes and tell if they are near each other, and estimate the direction and even the distance. The codes should not be generated by a single provider, because what do you do when they disappear? Finally, it had to be open sourced. Open sourcing the project was important. We wanted to allow everyone to evaluate it so that we don't go implementing something that turns out to not be useful. If it does turn out to be useful, everyone (including other mapping providers) should be able to implement it and use the codes freely. I'm pre-announcing this to a couple of geo lists today, and I'll be sticking around for comments and questions. The following links provide more information: Github project: https://github.com/google/open-location-code Demonstration website: http://plus.codes http://plus.codes/ Discussion list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/open-location-code https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code Enjoy! Doug ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000, Wwww.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel Morissette T: +1 418-696-5056 #201 http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Short codes for locations
Or MapCode: http://www.mapcode.com/ . It's already embedded in TomTom systems; however, it is open. Only the master grid database is controlled centrally by a foundation. There's definitely a place for a non-coordinate-based place identifier, especially for the large proportion of the world's population without formal addresses. It'll be interesting to see what emerges. I've been thinking a mapcode plugin for QGIS would be a nice idea... On 29/10/2014 23:00, Barry Rowlingson wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com mailto:dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: This sounds very much like the Natural Area Coding (NAC) system: http://www.nacgeo.com/ Interesting idea in theory, but in practice this has been around for over a decade and hasn't really taken off, quite likely because an alphanumerical code is not of much more use than pure geographic coordinates. Or maybe it's like the case of rasters in a database [1] and this concept just needs a strong champion to sell us the idea and convince the world that we need it? Or possibly because of non-open licensing terms? http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/licensing/ I think I have seen some web services teaming up with What3Words which does a similar thing except translates coords to a word triple via a proprietary, secret, server-based algorithm. Its cutesy nature (I live at monkey sponge gearstick) seems to appeal to many since it makes memorable locations. Anyhooo... Daniel [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2006-October/013569.html On 14-10-29 3:53 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Hi Doug, An interesting and potentially useful concept. It sounds like you are proposing a spatial standard. Have you approached the Open Geospatial Consortium about getting the standard endorsed? With regards to any code which you wish to produce and open source, I suggest considering bringing it under the umbrella of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). Details about OSGeo incubation here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator On 30/10/2014 1:08 am, Doug Rinckes wrote: I'm an engineer at Google, and I have just open sourced a geo project we've been working on for a while. I used to work on our maps, detecting missing road networks and in my spare time mapping roads in Papua New Guinea, Central and West Africa from the satellite imagery. But without street names or addresses, a road network isn't all that useful. People can't use it for directions, because they can't express where they want directions to. After talking with colleagues from around the world, I discovered that's it actually very common for streets to be unnamed. We thought that we should provide short codes that could be used like addresses, to give the location of homes, businesses, anything. If we made them usable from smartphones, we can make addresses for anywhere available to anyone with a smartphone pretty much immediately. We had some specific requirements, including that these address codes should work offline, they shouldn't spell words or include easily confused characters. We wanted to be able to look at two codes and tell if they are near each other, and estimate the direction and even the distance. The codes should not be generated by a single provider, because what do you do when they disappear? Finally, it had to be open sourced. Open sourcing the project was important. We wanted to allow everyone to evaluate it so that we don't go implementing something that turns out to not be useful. If it does turn out to be useful, everyone (including other mapping providers) should be able to implement it and use the codes freely. I'm pre-announcing this to a couple of geo lists today, and I'll be sticking around for comments and questions. The following links provide more information: Github project: https://github.com/google/open-location-code Demonstration website: http://plus.codes http://plus.codes/ Discussion list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/open-location-code https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code Enjoy! Doug ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 -
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Short codes for locations
I think the Github page here already lists plenty of alternatives and explains well, why they were not used: https://github.com/google/open-location-code/blob/master/docs/comparison.adoc Daniel On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Gavin Fleming gavinjflem...@gmail.com wrote: Or MapCode: http://www.mapcode.com/ . It's already embedded in TomTom systems; however, it is open. Only the master grid database is controlled centrally by a foundation. There's definitely a place for a non-coordinate-based place identifier, especially for the large proportion of the world's population without formal addresses. It'll be interesting to see what emerges. I've been thinking a mapcode plugin for QGIS would be a nice idea... On 29/10/2014 23:00, Barry Rowlingson wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: This sounds very much like the Natural Area Coding (NAC) system: http://www.nacgeo.com/ Interesting idea in theory, but in practice this has been around for over a decade and hasn't really taken off, quite likely because an alphanumerical code is not of much more use than pure geographic coordinates. Or maybe it's like the case of rasters in a database [1] and this concept just needs a strong champion to sell us the idea and convince the world that we need it? Or possibly because of non-open licensing terms? http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/licensing/ I think I have seen some web services teaming up with What3Words which does a similar thing except translates coords to a word triple via a proprietary, secret, server-based algorithm. Its cutesy nature (I live at monkey sponge gearstick) seems to appeal to many since it makes memorable locations. Anyhooo... Daniel [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2006-October/013569.html On 14-10-29 3:53 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Hi Doug, An interesting and potentially useful concept. It sounds like you are proposing a spatial standard. Have you approached the Open Geospatial Consortium about getting the standard endorsed? With regards to any code which you wish to produce and open source, I suggest considering bringing it under the umbrella of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). Details about OSGeo incubation here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator On 30/10/2014 1:08 am, Doug Rinckes wrote: I'm an engineer at Google, and I have just open sourced a geo project we've been working on for a while. I used to work on our maps, detecting missing road networks and in my spare time mapping roads in Papua New Guinea, Central and West Africa from the satellite imagery. But without street names or addresses, a road network isn't all that useful. People can't use it for directions, because they can't express where they want directions to. After talking with colleagues from around the world, I discovered that's it actually very common for streets to be unnamed. We thought that we should provide short codes that could be used like addresses, to give the location of homes, businesses, anything. If we made them usable from smartphones, we can make addresses for anywhere available to anyone with a smartphone pretty much immediately. We had some specific requirements, including that these address codes should work offline, they shouldn't spell words or include easily confused characters. We wanted to be able to look at two codes and tell if they are near each other, and estimate the direction and even the distance. The codes should not be generated by a single provider, because what do you do when they disappear? Finally, it had to be open sourced. Open sourcing the project was important. We wanted to allow everyone to evaluate it so that we don't go implementing something that turns out to not be useful. If it does turn out to be useful, everyone (including other mapping providers) should be able to implement it and use the codes freely. I'm pre-announcing this to a couple of geo lists today, and I'll be sticking around for comments and questions. The following links provide more information: Github project: https://github.com/google/open-location-code Demonstration website: http://plus.codes http://plus.codes/ Discussion list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/open-location-code https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code Enjoy! Doug ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000 %2B61%202%209009%205000, Wwww.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 %2B61%202%209009%205099 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
