Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] how did the Paris code sprint go

2016-03-10 Thread P Kishor 
If the response had been enthusiastic then perhaps your help wouldn't have
been needed. That you think the response was mixed/tepid and that it could
have been better is perfect reason for you to jump in and take leadership
here. I seriously can't think of a better, ahem, response and suggestion
than that given by Even Rouault, a perfect blend of respect, inclusiveness
and encouragement if there ever was one.



On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Jonathan Moules <
jonathan-li...@lightpear.com> wrote:

> I'm not averse to the notion, but given the mixed/tepid response to this
> email thread, it doesn't seem like something the community has any
> particular desire for.
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
>
>  On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:18:32 + *Even
> Rouault>* wrote
> 
>
> Jonathan,
>
> if you feel OSGeo should have an environmental policy, you could certainly
> propose one for consideration by the larger community, and then volunteer
> to
> champion to make it adopted, and enforce it afterwards.
>
>



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] how did the Paris code sprint go

2016-03-10 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
Too bad, this seems a good opportunity to put our poopprint-footprint into 
perspective and help stimulate consideration of ways to accomplish our need for 
interaction, obviously quality virtual participation being the alternative. Not 
to exclude the benefits of a physical meeting but allow for an expansion of 
that so players can join up virtually. A chart showing how much poop was 
prevented might help to encourage more ways to improve our efficiency. I hope I 
am accurately understanding what is being discussed, never quite sure.
-Patrick

From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Moules
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM
To: Even Rouault
Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] how did the Paris code sprint go

Hi Even,
I'm not averse to the notion, but given the mixed/tepid response to this 
email thread, it doesn't seem like something the community has any particular 
desire for.
Cheers,
Jonathan

 On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:18:32 + Even 
Rouault> wrote 

Jonathan,

if you feel OSGeo should have an environmental policy, you could certainly
propose one for consideration by the larger community, and then volunteer to
champion to make it adopted, and enforce it afterwards.

Even

>
>
>  On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 15:01:19 + Daniel
> Morissettedmorisse...@mapgears.com 
> wrote 
>
> On 2016-03-08 8:37 AM, Jonathan Moules wrote:
> 
>  Looking at the participant list, that Paris code-sprint entailed at
>  least 10 transatlantic flights and probably at least that many
>  short-haul (pan-Europe) flights too (which have higher emissions
>  profiles per passenger mile). I don't doubt a lot of useful work was
>  done, but was the quantity and quality of the work so much superior to
>  the normal-work-from-home/office option that it was worth the
>  considerable extra pollution that the sprint generated?
> 
>  This is obviously not something that can be easily quantified
> (although  I'm sure a few PhD's are trying), but I believe it should
> be considered  when these sorts of events are sponsored. Otherwise you
> can easily end  up with a Tragedy of the Commons situation.
>  A quick search doesn't find any sort of
>  ethical/green/social-responsibility policy on OSGeo's pages...
> 
>
>
> Um... very good point. On that note, I wonder if we should consider
> canceling the international FOSS4G which has an even worse impact since
> we're talking of hundreds of useless flights only to get people to watch
> a couple of conferences and share their latest project news.
>
> Conferences and meetings could be streamed and delivered using hangouts
> after all. Why did we not think of that before?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] how did the Paris code sprint go

2016-03-10 Thread Jonathan Moules 
Hi Even,
I'm not averse to the notion, but given the mixed/tepid response to this 
email thread, it doesn't seem like something the community has any particular 
desire for.
Cheers,
Jonathan

 On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:18:32 + Even 
Rouaulteven.roua...@spatialys.com wrote  

Jonathan, 
 
if you feel OSGeo should have an environmental policy, you could certainly 
propose one for consideration by the larger community, and then volunteer to 
champion to make it adopted, and enforce it afterwards. 
 
Even 
 
 
 
  On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 15:01:19 + Daniel 
 Morissettelt;dmorisse...@mapgears.comgt; wrote  
 
 On 2016-03-08 8:37 AM, Jonathan Moules wrote: 
 gt; 
 gt; Looking at the participant list, that Paris code-sprint entailed 
at 
 gt; least 10 transatlantic flights and probably at least that many 
 gt; short-haul (pan-Europe) flights too (which have higher emissions 
 gt; profiles per passenger mile). I don't doubt a lot of useful work 
was 
 gt; done, but was the quantity and quality of the work so much 
superior to 
 gt; the normal-work-from-home/office option that it was worth the 
 gt; considerable extra pollution that the sprint generated? 
 gt; 
 gt; This is obviously not something that can be easily quantified 
 (although gt; I'm sure a few PhD's are trying), but I believe it 
should 
 be considered gt; when these sorts of events are sponsored. Otherwise 
you 
 can easily end gt; up with a Tragedy of the Commons situation. 
 gt; A quick search doesn't find any sort of 
 gt; ethical/green/social-responsibility policy on OSGeo's pages... 
 gt; 
 
 
 Um... very good point. On that note, I wonder if we should consider 
 canceling the international FOSS4G which has an even worse impact since 
 we're talking of hundreds of useless flights only to get people to watch 
 a couple of conferences and share their latest project news. 
 
 Conferences and meetings could be streamed and delivered using hangouts 
 after all. Why did we not think of that before? 
 
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