Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada
Hi Bob. "Service node"? Maybe I can explain it another way. Once I have Canada's implementation with enough momentum, I will be quite happy to add other countries to the map. Or from another perspective, I'm also quite happy to load share the underlying PostgreSQL database with another (independently-maintained) system node. Thanks, Brendan On 15/03/2011 12:43 AM, Bob Basques wrote: Brendan, Have you figured out how other entities (like countries or ??) might implement a similar service node that could interact with your framework design? bobb >>> Brendan Morley wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that the CommonMap initiative is still alive, as am I. To recap, CommonMap will be a collaboration and repository of liberally-licensed geodata (without share-alike) - accessible though an OpenStreetMap-style interface. We will accept Creative Commons Attribution, CC0 and public domain geodata contributions, depending on your jurisdiction. We expect it will find fresh acceptance in the "Gov 2.0" movement, since it allows governments to redistribute contributions from the community. We also are quite happy to accept OpenStreetMap contributors who find themselves dissatisfied with its default licence. We want to focus on a particular country at first, which is Canada. Why? * It has quite a comprehensive open data catalogue; * It appears to have a compatible licence; * It also has a rigorous "foreign key" model, which bodes well for roundtripping back to government; * It's the home of Refractions Research, the custodian of PostGIS which is a good friend of mine; * Finally, it helps that Sam Vekemans is our enthusiastic man on the ground over there. We want to get as much of Natural Resources Canada's GeoBase and Canvec publications into the CommonMap database as we can, and use Canada as a showcase country for what CommonMap can uniquely do. The "proof of concept" API instance is currently at http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/ It is hosting an overlay of: * Natural Earth Data; * Some sample Geobase National Road Network, National Hydro Network and Land Cover datasets. (Hint: look up Victoria, British Columbia[1] for an example of all 3 datasets together.) Next comes the challenge of ramping up to a public launch. The core of CommonMap is a web-facing API and its "one true" database, a download site for XML full copies of that database, and a map tile server with its optimised database. To run this at public scale will demand about 8-10 CPU cores and associated storage, or about US $10,000 per year. Let's face it, we will require a higher rate of donations to do this. If you believe in the idea of CommonMap, a good way to show your support is to donate to CommonMap Inc. (CommonMap Inc is the non profit body that operates the CommonMap internet resources.) Potential donors, please head this way: http://www.commonmap.org/page/donate Even if you can't spare the cash, perhaps you can spare your skills or tools, whether they be in geodesy, obtaining or converting geodata imports, running up database or tile servers, or developing applications? Let us know. Please feel free to forward this news to whoever you wish. I welcome all comments: You can make further enquires by return email, the commonmap.org website, or "CommonMap" at LinkedIn, Facebook or Twitter. Sam Vekemans also has a group blog for CommonMap set up at Posterous. Thanks, Brendan [1] http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/?lat=48.821&lon=-123.574&zoom=9&layers=BFTF -- Brendan Morley President, CommonMap Inc. morb...@commonmap.info http://commonmap.org/ Queensland Incorporated Association 37762 Also find us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada
Dan, Thanks for your response. I thought it might be a challenge, but had to ask. Tony - Original Message - From: "Dan Putler" To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 3:14:38 PM Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada Hi Tony, Very unlikely. Statistics Canada releases some data for free, but not data from the Census of Population. Moreover, a postal code is typically at a finer level (often for one side of a street in a single block) than a Designation Area (the lowest level for which they report data). They do produce data at the FSA (forward sortation area) level, which are the first three characters of a Canadian postal code. As a result, you could get this data, but most likely not for free. Dan On 03/14/2011 11:32 AM, kehlho...@comcast.net wrote: > Speaking of Canadaan data, I am in need of income data by postal code. > Is there any free WMS server where this is stored? > > Thanks > > Tony > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brendan Morley" > To: talk...@openstreetmap.org, osgeo...@lists.osgeo.org, > geod...@lists.osgeo.org, discuss@lists.osgeo.org, aust...@lists.osgeo.org > Cc: "Sam Vekemans" , "Baden" > > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 3:26:21 AM > Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada > > Hi all, > > I just wanted to let you know that the CommonMap initiative is still > alive, as am I. > > To recap, CommonMap will be a collaboration and repository of > liberally-licensed geodata (without share-alike) - accessible though > an OpenStreetMap-style interface. We will accept Creative Commons > Attribution, CC0 and public domain geodata contributions, depending on > your jurisdiction. We expect it will find fresh acceptance in the > "Gov 2.0" movement, since it allows governments to redistribute > contributions from the community. We also are quite happy to accept > OpenStreetMap contributors who find themselves dissatisfied with its > default licence. > > We want to focus on a particular country at first, which is Canada. Why? > > * It has quite a comprehensive open data catalogue; > * It appears to have a compatible licence; > * It also has a rigorous "foreign key" model, which bodes well > for roundtripping back to government; > * It's the home of Refractions Research, the custodian of PostGIS > which is a good friend of mine; > * Finally, it helps that Sam Vekemans is our enthusiastic man on > the ground over there. > > We want to get as much of Natural Resources Canada's GeoBase and > Canvec publications into the CommonMap database as we can, and use > Canada as a showcase country for what CommonMap can uniquely do. > > The "proof of concept" API instance is currently at > http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/ > It is hosting an overlay of: > > * Natural Earth Data; > * Some sample Geobase National Road Network, National Hydro > Network and Land Cover datasets. > > (Hint: look up Victoria, British Columbia[1] for an example of all 3 > datasets together.) > > > Next comes the challenge of ramping up to a public launch. The core > of CommonMap is a web-facing API and its "one true" database, a > download site for XML full copies of that database, and a map tile > server with its optimised database. To run this at public scale will > demand about 8-10 CPU cores and associated storage, or about US > $10,000 per year. > > Let's face it, we will require a higher rate of donations to do this. > If you believe in the idea of CommonMap, a good way to show your > support is to donate to CommonMap Inc. (CommonMap Inc is the non > profit body that operates the CommonMap internet resources.) > > Potential donors, please head this way: > http://www.commonmap.org/page/donate > > Even if you can't spare the cash, perhaps you can spare your skills or > tools, whether they be in geodesy, obtaining or converting geodata > imports, running up database or tile servers, or developing > applications? Let us know. > > > Please feel free to forward this news to whoever you wish. > > I welcome all comments: You can make further enquires by return email, > the commonmap.org website, or "CommonMap" at LinkedIn, Facebook or > Twitter. Sam Vekemans also has a group blog for CommonMap set up at > Posterous. > > > Thanks, > Brendan > > [1] > http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/?lat=48.821&lon=-123.574&zoom=9&layers=BFTF > > > > -- > Brendan Morley > President, CommonMap Inc. > morb...@commonmap.info >
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada
Hi Tony, Very unlikely. Statistics Canada releases some data for free, but not data from the Census of Population. Moreover, a postal code is typically at a finer level (often for one side of a street in a single block) than a Designation Area (the lowest level for which they report data). They do produce data at the FSA (forward sortation area) level, which are the first three characters of a Canadian postal code. As a result, you could get this data, but most likely not for free. Dan On 03/14/2011 11:32 AM, kehlho...@comcast.net wrote: Speaking of Canadaan data, I am in need of income data by postal code. Is there any free WMS server where this is stored? Thanks Tony - Original Message - From: "Brendan Morley" To: talk...@openstreetmap.org, osgeo...@lists.osgeo.org, geod...@lists.osgeo.org, discuss@lists.osgeo.org, aust...@lists.osgeo.org Cc: "Sam Vekemans" , "Baden" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 3:26:21 AM Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that the CommonMap initiative is still alive, as am I. To recap, CommonMap will be a collaboration and repository of liberally-licensed geodata (without share-alike) - accessible though an OpenStreetMap-style interface. We will accept Creative Commons Attribution, CC0 and public domain geodata contributions, depending on your jurisdiction. We expect it will find fresh acceptance in the "Gov 2.0" movement, since it allows governments to redistribute contributions from the community. We also are quite happy to accept OpenStreetMap contributors who find themselves dissatisfied with its default licence. We want to focus on a particular country at first, which is Canada. Why? * It has quite a comprehensive open data catalogue; * It appears to have a compatible licence; * It also has a rigorous "foreign key" model, which bodes well for roundtripping back to government; * It's the home of Refractions Research, the custodian of PostGIS which is a good friend of mine; * Finally, it helps that Sam Vekemans is our enthusiastic man on the ground over there. We want to get as much of Natural Resources Canada's GeoBase and Canvec publications into the CommonMap database as we can, and use Canada as a showcase country for what CommonMap can uniquely do. The "proof of concept" API instance is currently at http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/ It is hosting an overlay of: * Natural Earth Data; * Some sample Geobase National Road Network, National Hydro Network and Land Cover datasets. (Hint: look up Victoria, British Columbia[1] for an example of all 3 datasets together.) Next comes the challenge of ramping up to a public launch. The core of CommonMap is a web-facing API and its "one true" database, a download site for XML full copies of that database, and a map tile server with its optimised database. To run this at public scale will demand about 8-10 CPU cores and associated storage, or about US $10,000 per year. Let's face it, we will require a higher rate of donations to do this. If you believe in the idea of CommonMap, a good way to show your support is to donate to CommonMap Inc. (CommonMap Inc is the non profit body that operates the CommonMap internet resources.) Potential donors, please head this way: http://www.commonmap.org/page/donate Even if you can't spare the cash, perhaps you can spare your skills or tools, whether they be in geodesy, obtaining or converting geodata imports, running up database or tile servers, or developing applications? Let us know. Please feel free to forward this news to whoever you wish. I welcome all comments: You can make further enquires by return email, the commonmap.org website, or "CommonMap" at LinkedIn, Facebook or Twitter. Sam Vekemans also has a group blog for CommonMap set up at Posterous. Thanks, Brendan [1] http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/?lat=48.821&lon=-123.574&zoom=9&layers=BFTF -- Brendan Morley President, CommonMap Inc. morb...@commonmap.info http://commonmap.org/ Queensland Incorporated Association 37762 Also find us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada
Speaking of Canadaan data, I am in need of income data by postal code. Is there any free WMS server where this is stored? Thanks Tony - Original Message - From: "Brendan Morley" To: talk...@openstreetmap.org, osgeo...@lists.osgeo.org, geod...@lists.osgeo.org, discuss@lists.osgeo.org, aust...@lists.osgeo.org Cc: "Sam Vekemans" , "Baden" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 3:26:21 AM Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that the CommonMap initiative is still alive, as am I. To recap, CommonMap will be a collaboration and repository of liberally-licensed geodata (without share-alike) - accessible though an OpenStreetMap-style interface. We will accept Creative Commons Attribution, CC0 and public domain geodata contributions, depending on your jurisdiction. We expect it will find fresh acceptance in the "Gov 2.0" movement, since it allows governments to redistribute contributions from the community. We also are quite happy to accept OpenStreetMap contributors who find themselves dissatisfied with its default licence. We want to focus on a particular country at first, which is Canada. Why? * It has quite a comprehensive open data catalogue; * It appears to have a compatible licence; * It also has a rigorous "foreign key" model, which bodes well for roundtripping back to government; * It's the home of Refractions Research, the custodian of PostGIS which is a good friend of mine; * Finally, it helps that Sam Vekemans is our enthusiastic man on the ground over there. We want to get as much of Natural Resources Canada's GeoBase and Canvec publications into the CommonMap database as we can, and use Canada as a showcase country for what CommonMap can uniquely do. The "proof of concept" API instance is currently at http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/ It is hosting an overlay of: * Natural Earth Data; * Some sample Geobase National Road Network, National Hydro Network and Land Cover datasets. (Hint: look up Victoria, British Columbia[1] for an example of all 3 datasets together.) Next comes the challenge of ramping up to a public launch. The core of CommonMap is a web-facing API and its "one true" database, a download site for XML full copies of that database, and a map tile server with its optimised database. To run this at public scale will demand about 8-10 CPU cores and associated storage, or about US $10,000 per year. Let's face it, we will require a higher rate of donations to do this. If you believe in the idea of CommonMap, a good way to show your support is to donate to CommonMap Inc. (CommonMap Inc is the non profit body that operates the CommonMap internet resources.) Potential donors, please head this way: http://www.commonmap.org/page/donate Even if you can't spare the cash, perhaps you can spare your skills or tools, whether they be in geodesy, obtaining or converting geodata imports, running up database or tile servers, or developing applications? Let us know. Please feel free to forward this news to whoever you wish. I welcome all comments: You can make further enquires by return email, the commonmap.org website, or "CommonMap" at LinkedIn, Facebook or Twitter. Sam Vekemans also has a group blog for CommonMap set up at Posterous. Thanks, Brendan [1] http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/?lat=48.821&lon=-123.574&zoom=9&layers=BFTF -- Brendan Morley President, CommonMap Inc. morb...@commonmap.info http://commonmap.org/ Queensland Incorporated Association 37762 Also find us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada
Brendan, Have you figured out how other entities (like countries or ??) might implement a similar service node that could interact with your framework design? bobb >>> Brendan Morley wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that the CommonMap initiative is still alive, as am I. To recap, CommonMap will be a collaboration and repository of liberally-licensed geodata (without share-alike) - accessible though an OpenStreetMap-style interface. We will accept Creative Commons Attribution, CC0 and public domain geodata contributions, depending on your jurisdiction. We expect it will find fresh acceptance in the "Gov 2.0" movement, since it allows governments to redistribute contributions from the community. We also are quite happy to accept OpenStreetMap contributors who find themselves dissatisfied with its default licence. We want to focus on a particular country at first, which is Canada. Why? * It has quite a comprehensive open data catalogue; * It appears to have a compatible licence; * It also has a rigorous "foreign key" model, which bodes well for roundtripping back to government; * It's the home of Refractions Research, the custodian of PostGIS which is a good friend of mine; * Finally, it helps that Sam Vekemans is our enthusiastic man on the ground over there. We want to get as much of Natural Resources Canada's GeoBase and Canvec publications into the CommonMap database as we can, and use Canada as a showcase country for what CommonMap can uniquely do. The "proof of concept" API instance is currently at http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/ It is hosting an overlay of: * Natural Earth Data; * Some sample Geobase National Road Network, National Hydro Network and Land Cover datasets. (Hint: look up Victoria, British Columbia[1] for an example of all 3 datasets together.) Next comes the challenge of ramping up to a public launch. The core of CommonMap is a web-facing API and its "one true" database, a download site for XML full copies of that database, and a map tile server with its optimised database. To run this at public scale will demand about 8-10 CPU cores and associated storage, or about US $10,000 per year. Let's face it, we will require a higher rate of donations to do this. If you believe in the idea of CommonMap, a good way to show your support is to donate to CommonMap Inc. (CommonMap Inc is the non profit body that operates the CommonMap internet resources.) Potential donors, please head this way: http://www.commonmap.org/page/donate Even if you can't spare the cash, perhaps you can spare your skills or tools, whether they be in geodesy, obtaining or converting geodata imports, running up database or tile servers, or developing applications? Let us know. Please feel free to forward this news to whoever you wish. I welcome all comments: You can make further enquires by return email, the commonmap.org website, or "CommonMap" at LinkedIn, Facebook or Twitter. Sam Vekemans also has a group blog for CommonMap set up at Posterous. Thanks, Brendan [1] http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/?lat=48.821&lon=-123.574&zoom=9&layers=BFTF -- Brendan Morley President, CommonMap Inc. morb...@commonmap.info http://commonmap.org/ Queensland Incorporated Association 37762 Also find us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada
Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that the CommonMap initiative is still alive, as am I. To recap, CommonMap will be a collaboration and repository of liberally-licensed geodata (without share-alike) - accessible though an OpenStreetMap-style interface. We will accept Creative Commons Attribution, CC0 and public domain geodata contributions, depending on your jurisdiction. We expect it will find fresh acceptance in the "Gov 2.0" movement, since it allows governments to redistribute contributions from the community. We also are quite happy to accept OpenStreetMap contributors who find themselves dissatisfied with its default licence. We want to focus on a particular country at first, which is Canada. Why? * It has quite a comprehensive open data catalogue; * It appears to have a compatible licence; * It also has a rigorous "foreign key" model, which bodes well for roundtripping back to government; * It's the home of Refractions Research, the custodian of PostGIS which is a good friend of mine; * Finally, it helps that Sam Vekemans is our enthusiastic man on the ground over there. We want to get as much of Natural Resources Canada's GeoBase and Canvec publications into the CommonMap database as we can, and use Canada as a showcase country for what CommonMap can uniquely do. The "proof of concept" API instance is currently at http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/ It is hosting an overlay of: * Natural Earth Data; * Some sample Geobase National Road Network, National Hydro Network and Land Cover datasets. (Hint: look up Victoria, British Columbia[1] for an example of all 3 datasets together.) Next comes the challenge of ramping up to a public launch. The core of CommonMap is a web-facing API and its "one true" database, a download site for XML full copies of that database, and a map tile server with its optimised database. To run this at public scale will demand about 8-10 CPU cores and associated storage, or about US $10,000 per year. Let's face it, we will require a higher rate of donations to do this. If you believe in the idea of CommonMap, a good way to show your support is to donate to CommonMap Inc. (CommonMap Inc is the non profit body that operates the CommonMap internet resources.) Potential donors, please head this way: http://www.commonmap.org/page/donate Even if you can't spare the cash, perhaps you can spare your skills or tools, whether they be in geodesy, obtaining or converting geodata imports, running up database or tile servers, or developing applications? Let us know. Please feel free to forward this news to whoever you wish. I welcome all comments: You can make further enquires by return email, the commonmap.org website, or "CommonMap" at LinkedIn, Facebook or Twitter. Sam Vekemans also has a group blog for CommonMap set up at Posterous. Thanks, Brendan [1] http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/?lat=48.821&lon=-123.574&zoom=9&layers=BFTF -- Brendan Morley President, CommonMap Inc. morb...@commonmap.info http://commonmap.org/ Queensland Incorporated Association 37762 Also find us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss