Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Does osgeo provide infrastructure for non-incubating projects?
Pedro-Juan, thanks for your support. I guess the project is not interesting, at least in its current status. Moreover, I know that asking is not the best way to start. I'm keeping the paid service and now is publicly accessible[1][2]. As soon as we get some forum or mailing list we'll start a workgroup to learn the Eclipse technologies used in GGL2: EMF, Xpand, Xtend and Xtext. The group will be open to anyone interested in learning them or helping others to learn. Best regards. [1] http://trac3.xp-dev.com/ggl2 [2] http://svn3.xp-dev.com/svn/ggl2/ On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses pfer...@osgeo.org wrote: Hello, Other Spanish Language Local Chapter (OSGeo-es) members and I as the OSGeo-es Liaison Officer, encouraged Fernado to start this topic in the list. Fernando and Victor are well known members of the Spanish FOSS4G community and is a common opinion that the project is very promising. Best regards -- Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses Valencia (España) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Does osgeo provide infrastructure for non-incubating projects?
Hello, Other Spanish Language Local Chapter (OSGeo-es) members and I as the OSGeo-es Liaison Officer, encouraged Fernado to start this topic in the list. Fernando and Victor are well known members of the Spanish FOSS4G community and is a common opinion that the project is very promising. Best regards -- Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses Valencia (España) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Does osgeo provide infrastructure for non-incubating projects?
Thanks both for your answers and sorry for the delay (I've been traveling). Steve, sorry, I think I haven't expressed myself clear at all. I'm interested in osgeo as organization but I'm afraid the project is not mature enough to enter incubation. I think I could find free hosting easily, but I wouldn't like to migrate some time later again. Frank, I've read Project Evaluation Criteria and, in my opinion, we are able to fulfill all the requirements in short term except of substantial user/developer community. Recently, some organizations got interested in helping to develop the project which *could* solve the problem of communities. I can only foresee two problems. First, I don't know if osgeo may be interested in a GIS specific language even if it ever matches the requirements. Second, for its very nature, I don't think it is possible to create a big developer community because the used technologies are not easy to learn, but I hope I'm wrong. If these problems are not such, we would be *very grateful* to use an osgeo mailing list. We could keep the paid infrastructure while the project evolves and it becomes clear if it can enter incubation or not. Hope I've been clear enough. I find it difficult to explain the problem so don't hesitate to ask for anything you don't understand. Best regards. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Stephen Woodbridge wood...@swoodbridge.com wrote: On 4/5/2011 7:43 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote: On 11-04-05 04:59 AM, Fernando González wrote: The first step is to create a work group to learn GGL2 technologies so we need a mailing list and a public SCM (we work with a private one currently). Is it possible to get such infrastructure from osgeo? Some people in GearScape mailing list suggested to ask here for a trac instance and even to apply for incubation. I like the incubation idea but I guess we're not so big yet. Would it be possible at least to start by being hosted? I think GGL2 is somewhat innovative and it could be interesting for osgeo to include such a project if it ever succeeds. Fernando, Yes, OSGeo does sometimes provide mailing list, Trac and SVN services for non-OSGeo (ie. non-incubating) projects. For mailing lists the barrier is quite low. For Trac/SVN you need someone on the system administration committee who is willing and able to do the work. That proponent then makes a motion on the SAC mailing list, and once passed provides notice to the board in case there are concerns. Generally speaking the hard part of the process is finding someone willing and able to do the work. The rest just slightly delays things. We (on SAC) are generally more supportive of projects that we think have a prospect of going through incubation at some point or that are closely related to existing OSGeo projects. Best regards, Fernando, You might also look at http://code.google.com/ or sourceforge, both provide these services if you can not get a SAC advocate for your project. Best regards, -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Does osgeo provide infrastructure for non-incubating projects?
On 11-04-05 04:59 AM, Fernando González wrote: The first step is to create a work group to learn GGL2 technologies so we need a mailing list and a public SCM (we work with a private one currently). Is it possible to get such infrastructure from osgeo? Some people in GearScape mailing list suggested to ask here for a trac instance and even to apply for incubation. I like the incubation idea but I guess we're not so big yet. Would it be possible at least to start by being hosted? I think GGL2 is somewhat innovative and it could be interesting for osgeo to include such a project if it ever succeeds. Fernando, Yes, OSGeo does sometimes provide mailing list, Trac and SVN services for non-OSGeo (ie. non-incubating) projects. For mailing lists the barrier is quite low. For Trac/SVN you need someone on the system administration committee who is willing and able to do the work. That proponent then makes a motion on the SAC mailing list, and once passed provides notice to the board in case there are concerns. Generally speaking the hard part of the process is finding someone willing and able to do the work. The rest just slightly delays things. We (on SAC) are generally more supportive of projects that we think have a prospect of going through incubation at some point or that are closely related to existing OSGeo projects. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss