Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Does osgeo provide infrastructure for non-incubating projects?

2011-04-08 Thread Fernando González
Pedro-Juan, thanks for your support.

I guess the project is not interesting, at least in its current
status. Moreover, I know that asking is not the best way to start.

I'm keeping the paid service and now is publicly accessible[1][2]. As
soon as we get some forum or mailing list we'll start a workgroup to
learn the Eclipse technologies used in GGL2: EMF, Xpand, Xtend and
Xtext. The group will be open to anyone interested in learning them or
helping others to learn.

Best regards.

[1] http://trac3.xp-dev.com/ggl2
[2] http://svn3.xp-dev.com/svn/ggl2/

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses
pfer...@osgeo.org wrote:
 Hello,

 Other Spanish Language Local Chapter (OSGeo-es) members and I as the
 OSGeo-es Liaison Officer, encouraged Fernado to start this topic in
 the list.

 Fernando and Victor are well known members of the Spanish FOSS4G
 community and is a common opinion that the project is very promising.

 Best regards

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Does osgeo provide infrastructure for non-incubating projects?

2011-04-07 Thread Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses
Hello,

Other Spanish Language Local Chapter (OSGeo-es) members and I as the
OSGeo-es Liaison Officer, encouraged Fernado to start this topic in
the list.

Fernando and Victor are well known members of the Spanish FOSS4G
community and is a common opinion that the project is very promising.

Best regards

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Does osgeo provide infrastructure for non-incubating projects?

2011-04-06 Thread Fernando González
Thanks both for your answers and sorry for the delay (I've been traveling).

Steve, sorry, I think I haven't expressed myself clear at all. I'm
interested in osgeo as organization but I'm afraid the project is not
mature enough to enter incubation. I think I could find free hosting
easily, but I wouldn't like to migrate some time later again.

Frank, I've read Project Evaluation Criteria and, in my opinion, we
are able to fulfill all the requirements in short term except of
substantial user/developer community. Recently, some organizations got
interested in helping to develop the project which *could* solve the
problem of communities.

I can only foresee two problems. First, I don't know if osgeo may be
interested in a GIS specific language even if it ever matches the
requirements. Second, for its very nature, I don't think it is
possible to create a big developer community because the used
technologies are not easy to learn, but I hope I'm wrong.

If these problems are not such, we would be *very grateful* to use an
osgeo mailing list. We could keep the paid infrastructure while the
project evolves and it becomes clear if it can enter incubation or
not.

Hope I've been clear enough. I find it difficult to explain the
problem so don't hesitate to ask for anything you don't understand.

Best regards.



On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Stephen Woodbridge
wood...@swoodbridge.com wrote:
 On 4/5/2011 7:43 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

 On 11-04-05 04:59 AM, Fernando González wrote:

 The first step is to
 create a work group to learn GGL2 technologies so we need a mailing
 list and a public SCM (we work with a private one currently).

 Is it possible to get such infrastructure from osgeo? Some people in
 GearScape mailing list suggested to ask here for a trac instance and
 even to apply for incubation. I like the incubation idea but I guess
 we're not so big yet. Would it be possible at least to start by being
 hosted? I think GGL2 is somewhat innovative and it could be
 interesting for osgeo to include such a project if it ever succeeds.

 Fernando,

 Yes, OSGeo does sometimes provide mailing list, Trac and SVN services for
 non-OSGeo (ie. non-incubating) projects. For mailing lists the barrier is
 quite low. For Trac/SVN you need someone on the system administration
 committee who is willing and able to do the work. That proponent then
 makes a motion on the SAC mailing list, and once passed provides notice
 to the board in case there are concerns. Generally speaking the hard
 part of the process is finding someone willing and able to do the work.
 The rest just slightly delays things.

 We (on SAC) are generally more supportive of projects that we think have
 a prospect of going through incubation at some point or that are closely
 related to existing OSGeo projects.

 Best regards,


 Fernando,

 You might also look at http://code.google.com/ or sourceforge, both provide
 these services if you can not get a SAC advocate for your project.

 Best regards,
  -Steve
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Does osgeo provide infrastructure for non-incubating projects?

2011-04-05 Thread Frank Warmerdam

On 11-04-05 04:59 AM, Fernando González wrote:

The first step is to
create a work group to learn GGL2 technologies so we need a mailing
list and a public SCM (we work with a private one currently).

Is it possible to get such infrastructure from osgeo? Some people in
GearScape mailing list suggested to ask here for a trac instance and
even to apply for incubation. I like the incubation idea but I guess
we're not so big yet. Would it be possible at least to start by being
hosted? I think GGL2 is somewhat innovative and it could be
interesting for osgeo to include such a project if it ever succeeds.


Fernando,

Yes, OSGeo does sometimes provide mailing list, Trac and SVN services for
non-OSGeo (ie. non-incubating) projects.  For mailing lists the barrier is
quite low.  For Trac/SVN you need someone on the system administration
committee who is willing and able to do the work.  That proponent then
makes a motion on the SAC mailing list, and once passed provides notice
to the board in case there are concerns.  Generally speaking the hard
part of the process is finding someone willing and able to do the work.
The rest just slightly delays things.

We (on SAC) are generally more supportive of projects that we think have
a prospect of going through incubation at some point or that are closely
related to existing OSGeo projects.

Best regards,

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