Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-28 Thread Ian Turton
It seems that the "members" page (https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/)
is picking it's picture up from the other pictures section not gravatar
which is what the actual member page (
https://www.osgeo.org/member/ian-turton/) uses. This is probably why so
many people have no picture on the members page.

Ian
PS I notice the page title is still in Dutch (?) and my local chapters have
gone missing again.


On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 19:17, Barry Rowlingson 
wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 6:51 PM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
> >
> > Your feedback makes me think we should hide entries that don’t have a
> photo.
> >
> > My thinking is part of the point of the website is to show that open
> source is made by people. Pages and pages of placeholder photos make us
> look like the faceless mob that protential adopters are told to fear to
> trust.
> >
> > Would rather fewer people with real faces from an outreach standpoint.
>
> +1, or at least don't show an anonymous icon for people with no image.
>
> Also, I don't understand why I don't have a face on that page, but I
> do on my page: https://www.osgeo.org/member/rowlingson/ - so I have to
> upload a profile picture in two places?
>
> Barry
>
>
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:50 AM Tom Chadwin 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the
> high-contrast design means the placeholders can overpower the actual
> photos. I would definitely knock back the darkness of the background
> colour, and probably knock back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking
> that the palette should reflect a disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so
> be faded. Other than that, I really like it.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
> Barry
> >> > Rowlingson
> >> > Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
> >> > To: Vicky Vergara
> >> > Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
> >> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello all
> >> > > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
> >> > > Hope you like it.
> >> >
> >> > Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
> >> > the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
> >> > abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
> >> > 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
> >> > which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
> >> > very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
> >> > so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
> >> > smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
> >> > browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
> >> > is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
> >> > drifted off topic into the web page design now
> >> >
> >> >  Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.
> >> >
> >> > Barry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On this page
> >> > > https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
> >> > > The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar .
> (work
> >> > in progress, on displaying the uploaded image on this page)
> >> > >
> >> > > On the profile page, the
> >> > > libavatar  takes precedence
> >> > > if not found then uploaded image
> >> > > if not found then the default image is used
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > > Vicky
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > > Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
> >> > > Salzmannstraße 44,
> >> > > 81739 München, Germany
> >> > >
> >> > > Vicky Vergara
> >> > > Operations Research
> >> > >
> >> > > eMail: vi...@georepublic.de
> >> > > Web: https://georepublic.info
> >> > >
> >> > > Tel: +49 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-28 Thread Vicky Vergara
I am sure its possible,
I just need some time to figure out how.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 1:56 PM Jody Garnett  wrote:

> I wonder if it is worth removing the gravatar integration. If is not
> sufficient for our needs?
>
> Note all this is a discussion, trying to balance between what is important
> and what is technically possible.
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 1:38 PM Vicky Vergara 
> wrote:
>
>> What about names?
>> "aam", "Alessandro","ander2712"
>> If those are names, there is no last name.
>>
>> faceless, nameless, one paragraph Bio less, wiki-link less
>>
>> Unfortunately, I am still trying to figure out on the memeber list how to
>> use the libavatar.
>> In some cases, the member page has a picture because the member has an
>> avatar linked to the mail
>> But the member list php code is used to list many other items like
>> projects, news, etc.
>> and those don't have an avatar. That code use the uploaded picture,
>> therefore things work like this
>> On the list (list member, list projects, etc) it uses uploaded picture,
>> no picture then for members its using the default member picture.
>> On the member page, if user has avatar uses avatar, if no avatar use
>> uploaded picture if no picture use default member picture.
>>
>> For the moment, I am
>> -0 not listing of members without "individual image" on the list of
>> members,
>> +0 on not listing members with no full name
>> +0 on members not having a one paragraph bio AND not having a wiki-link
>> There is a button where the member can opt-out of being listed.
>> But the non listing of members without "X" has to be done automatically.
>> (I need to investigate for when time comes)
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Vicky
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:50 PM Jody Garnett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Your feedback makes me think we should hide entries that don’t have a
>>> photo.
>>>
>>> My thinking is part of the point of the website is to show that open
>>> source is made by people. Pages and pages of placeholder photos make us
>>> look like the faceless mob that protential adopters are told to fear to
>>> trust.
>>>
>>> Would rather fewer people with real faces from an outreach standpoint.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:50 AM Tom Chadwin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the
>>>> high-contrast design means the placeholders can overpower the actual
>>>> photos. I would definitely knock back the darkness of the background
>>>> colour, and probably knock back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking
>>>> that the palette should reflect a disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so
>>>> be faded. Other than that, I really like it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > -Original Message-
>>>> > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Barry
>>>> > Rowlingson
>>>> > Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
>>>> > To: Vicky Vergara
>>>> > Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
>>>> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Hello all
>>>> > > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
>>>> > > Hope you like it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
>>>> > the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
>>>> > abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
>>>> > 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
>>>> > which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
>>>> >
>>>> > Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
>>>> > very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
>>>> > so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
>>>> > smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
>>>> > browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
>>>> > is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-27 Thread Jody Garnett
I wonder if it is worth removing the gravatar integration. If is not
sufficient for our needs?

Note all this is a discussion, trying to balance between what is important
and what is technically possible.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 1:38 PM Vicky Vergara  wrote:

> What about names?
> "aam", "Alessandro","ander2712"
> If those are names, there is no last name.
>
> faceless, nameless, one paragraph Bio less, wiki-link less
>
> Unfortunately, I am still trying to figure out on the memeber list how to
> use the libavatar.
> In some cases, the member page has a picture because the member has an
> avatar linked to the mail
> But the member list php code is used to list many other items like
> projects, news, etc.
> and those don't have an avatar. That code use the uploaded picture,
> therefore things work like this
> On the list (list member, list projects, etc) it uses uploaded picture, no
> picture then for members its using the default member picture.
> On the member page, if user has avatar uses avatar, if no avatar use
> uploaded picture if no picture use default member picture.
>
> For the moment, I am
> -0 not listing of members without "individual image" on the list of
> members,
> +0 on not listing members with no full name
> +0 on members not having a one paragraph bio AND not having a wiki-link
> There is a button where the member can opt-out of being listed.
> But the non listing of members without "X" has to be done automatically.
> (I need to investigate for when time comes)
>
>
> Regards
> Vicky
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:50 PM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>
>> Your feedback makes me think we should hide entries that don’t have a
>> photo.
>>
>> My thinking is part of the point of the website is to show that open
>> source is made by people. Pages and pages of placeholder photos make us
>> look like the faceless mob that protential adopters are told to fear to
>> trust.
>>
>> Would rather fewer people with real faces from an outreach standpoint.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:50 AM Tom Chadwin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the
>>> high-contrast design means the placeholders can overpower the actual
>>> photos. I would definitely knock back the darkness of the background
>>> colour, and probably knock back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking
>>> that the palette should reflect a disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so
>>> be faded. Other than that, I really like it.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Barry
>>> > Rowlingson
>>> > Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
>>> > To: Vicky Vergara
>>> > Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
>>> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Hello all
>>> > > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
>>> > > Hope you like it.
>>> >
>>> > Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
>>> > the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
>>> > abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
>>> > 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
>>> > which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
>>> > very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
>>> > so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
>>> > smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
>>> > browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
>>> > is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
>>> > drifted off topic into the web page design now
>>> >
>>> >  Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.
>>> >
>>> > Barry
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On this page
>>> > > https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
>>> > > The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar . (work
>>> > in progress, on displaying the uplo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-27 Thread Vicky Vergara
What about names?
"aam", "Alessandro","ander2712"
If those are names, there is no last name.

faceless, nameless, one paragraph Bio less, wiki-link less

Unfortunately, I am still trying to figure out on the memeber list how to
use the libavatar.
In some cases, the member page has a picture because the member has an
avatar linked to the mail
But the member list php code is used to list many other items like
projects, news, etc.
and those don't have an avatar. That code use the uploaded picture,
therefore things work like this
On the list (list member, list projects, etc) it uses uploaded picture, no
picture then for members its using the default member picture.
On the member page, if user has avatar uses avatar, if no avatar use
uploaded picture if no picture use default member picture.

For the moment, I am
-0 not listing of members without "individual image" on the list of members,
+0 on not listing members with no full name
+0 on members not having a one paragraph bio AND not having a wiki-link
There is a button where the member can opt-out of being listed.
But the non listing of members without "X" has to be done automatically. (I
need to investigate for when time comes)


Regards
Vicky


On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:50 PM Jody Garnett 
wrote:

> Your feedback makes me think we should hide entries that don’t have a
> photo.
>
> My thinking is part of the point of the website is to show that open
> source is made by people. Pages and pages of placeholder photos make us
> look like the faceless mob that protential adopters are told to fear to
> trust.
>
> Would rather fewer people with real faces from an outreach standpoint.
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:50 AM Tom Chadwin 
> wrote:
>
>> Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the high-contrast
>> design means the placeholders can overpower the actual photos. I would
>> definitely knock back the darkness of the background colour, and probably
>> knock back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking that the palette should
>> reflect a disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so be faded. Other than
>> that, I really like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
>> Barry
>> > Rowlingson
>> > Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
>> > To: Vicky Vergara
>> > Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
>> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hello all
>> > > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
>> > > Hope you like it.
>> >
>> > Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
>> > the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
>> > abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
>> > 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
>> > which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
>> >
>> > Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
>> > very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
>> > so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
>> > smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
>> > browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
>> > is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
>> > drifted off topic into the web page design now
>> >
>> >  Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.
>> >
>> > Barry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On this page
>> > > https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
>> > > The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar . (work
>> > in progress, on displaying the uploaded image on this page)
>> > >
>> > > On the profile page, the
>> > > libavatar  takes precedence
>> > > if not found then uploaded image
>> > > if not found then the default image is used
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > > Vicky
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
>> > > Salzmannstraße 44,
>> > > 81739 München, Germany
>> > >
>> > > Vicky Vergara
>> > > Operations Research
>> > >
>> > > eMail: vi...@georepublic.de
&g

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-27 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 6:51 PM Jody Garnett  wrote:
>
> Your feedback makes me think we should hide entries that don’t have a photo.
>
> My thinking is part of the point of the website is to show that open source 
> is made by people. Pages and pages of placeholder photos make us look like 
> the faceless mob that protential adopters are told to fear to trust.
>
> Would rather fewer people with real faces from an outreach standpoint.

+1, or at least don't show an anonymous icon for people with no image.

Also, I don't understand why I don't have a face on that page, but I
do on my page: https://www.osgeo.org/member/rowlingson/ - so I have to
upload a profile picture in two places?

Barry


> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:50 AM Tom Chadwin  wrote:
>>
>> Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the high-contrast 
>> design means the placeholders can overpower the actual photos. I would 
>> definitely knock back the darkness of the background colour, and probably 
>> knock back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking that the palette should 
>> reflect a disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so be faded. Other than that, 
>> I really like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Barry
>> > Rowlingson
>> > Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
>> > To: Vicky Vergara
>> > Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
>> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hello all
>> > > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
>> > > Hope you like it.
>> >
>> > Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
>> > the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
>> > abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
>> > 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
>> > which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
>> >
>> > Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
>> > very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
>> > so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
>> > smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
>> > browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
>> > is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
>> > drifted off topic into the web page design now
>> >
>> >  Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.
>> >
>> > Barry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On this page
>> > > https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
>> > > The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar . (work
>> > in progress, on displaying the uploaded image on this page)
>> > >
>> > > On the profile page, the
>> > > libavatar  takes precedence
>> > > if not found then uploaded image
>> > > if not found then the default image is used
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > > Vicky
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
>> > > Salzmannstraße 44,
>> > > 81739 München, Germany
>> > >
>> > > Vicky Vergara
>> > > Operations Research
>> > >
>> > > eMail: vi...@georepublic.de
>> > > Web: https://georepublic.info
>> > >
>> > > Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
>> > > Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
>> > >
>> > > Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
>> > > CEO: Daniel Kastl
>> > >
>> > ___
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>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-27 Thread Jody Garnett
Your feedback makes me think we should hide entries that don’t have a
photo.

My thinking is part of the point of the website is to show that open source
is made by people. Pages and pages of placeholder photos make us look like
the faceless mob that protential adopters are told to fear to trust.

Would rather fewer people with real faces from an outreach standpoint.

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:50 AM Tom Chadwin  wrote:

> Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the high-contrast
> design means the placeholders can overpower the actual photos. I would
> definitely knock back the darkness of the background colour, and probably
> knock back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking that the palette should
> reflect a disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so be faded. Other than
> that, I really like it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
> Barry
> > Rowlingson
> > Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
> > To: Vicky Vergara
> > Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all
> > > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
> > > Hope you like it.
> >
> > Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
> > the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
> > abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
> > 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
> > which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
> >
> > Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
> > very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
> > so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
> > smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
> > browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
> > is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
> > drifted off topic into the web page design now
> >
> >  Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >
> > > On this page
> > > https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
> > > The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar . (work
> > in progress, on displaying the uploaded image on this page)
> > >
> > > On the profile page, the
> > > libavatar  takes precedence
> > > if not found then uploaded image
> > > if not found then the default image is used
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Vicky
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
> > > Salzmannstraße 44,
> > > 81739 München, Germany
> > >
> > > Vicky Vergara
> > > Operations Research
> > >
> > > eMail: vi...@georepublic.de
> > > Web: https://georepublic.info
> > >
> > > Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
> > > Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
> > >
> > > Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
> > > CEO: Daniel Kastl
> > >
> > ___
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
> Tom Chadwin, ICT Manager
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-27 Thread Vicky Vergara
Hi all

Here is the svg

I am using the colors defined in the style guide



On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:50 AM Tom Chadwin  wrote:

> Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the high-contrast
> design means the placeholders can overpower the actual photos. I would
> definitely knock back the darkness of the background colour, and probably
> knock back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking that the palette should
> reflect a disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so be faded. Other than
> that, I really like it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
> Barry
> > Rowlingson
> > Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
> > To: Vicky Vergara
> > Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all
> > > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
> > > Hope you like it.
> >
> > Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
> > the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
> > abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
> > 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
> > which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
> >
> > Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
> > very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
> > so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
> > smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
> > browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
> > is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
> > drifted off topic into the web page design now
> >
> >  Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >
> > > On this page
> > > https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
> > > The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar . (work
> > in progress, on displaying the uploaded image on this page)
> > >
> > > On the profile page, the
> > > libavatar  takes precedence
> > > if not found then uploaded image
> > > if not found then the default image is used
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Vicky
> > >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-22 Thread Tom Chadwin
Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the high-contrast 
design means the placeholders can overpower the actual photos. I would 
definitely knock back the darkness of the background colour, and probably knock 
back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking that the palette should reflect a 
disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so be faded. Other than that, I really 
like it.

Thanks

Tom


> -Original Message-
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Barry
> Rowlingson
> Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
> To: Vicky Vergara
> Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all
> > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
> > Hope you like it.
>
> Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
> the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
> abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
> 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
> which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
>
> Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
> very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
> so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
> smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
> browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
> is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
> drifted off topic into the web page design now
>
>  Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> > On this page
> > https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
> > The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar . (work
> in progress, on displaying the uploaded image on this page)
> >
> > On the profile page, the
> > libavatar  takes precedence
> > if not found then uploaded image
> > if not found then the default image is used
> >
> > Regards
> > Vicky
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
> > Salzmannstraße 44,
> > 81739 München, Germany
> >
> > Vicky Vergara
> > Operations Research
> >
> > eMail: vi...@georepublic.de
> > Web: https://georepublic.info
> >
> > Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
> > Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
> >
> > Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
> > CEO: Daniel Kastl
> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

2019-01-22 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:
>
> Hello all
> I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
> Hope you like it.

Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.

Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
drifted off topic into the web page design now

 Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.

Barry



> On this page
> https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
> The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar . (work in 
> progress, on displaying the uploaded image on this page)
>
> On the profile page, the
> libavatar  takes precedence
> if not found then uploaded image
> if not found then the default image is used
>
> Regards
> Vicky
>
>
> --
>
> Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
> Salzmannstraße 44,
> 81739 München, Germany
>
> Vicky Vergara
> Operations Research
>
> eMail: vi...@georepublic.de
> Web: https://georepublic.info
>
> Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
> Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
>
> Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
> CEO: Daniel Kastl
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