Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How to quantify the economic impact of OSGeo software? Your help needed for a research article

2015-06-02 Thread Newcomb, Doug
Suchith,
I am guessing that the 1 billion dollar number is for full commercial price
with no volume or educational discounts for the ArcGIS Online services.  If
you want to make a similar claim for the OSGeo Academy simply multiply the
full retail commercial cost ( plus maintenance) , without volume or
educational discounts, of the different  proprietary software packages with
equivalent functionality to the tasks presented in the GeoAcademy MOOC ,
 times 4000.

To add a bit more honesty, list the educational discount for the
proprietary software packages , then the full commercial price.  One could
make the case that the software presented in GeoAcademy does not change in
price when leaving academia for the real world, presenting an economic
benefit to geospatial professionals starting careers.

Do a 10 year analysis, based on ongoing licensing purchase and maintenance
costs, between the software in GeoAcademy and the proprietary software.
Multiply that times 4000.

Just a suggestion.


Doug

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Suchith Anand 
suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 Few years ago, myself and colleagues here did a study  to help us
 understand the social history of collaborative activities within the OSGeo
 ecosystem.  The results were published as a research paper on Mapping
 Collaboration in Open Source Geospatial Ecosystem in Transactions in GIS
 (Volume 16, Issue 4, pages 581–597, 2012).

 Last year after OSGIS 2014, following informal discussions with some
 colleagues, i decided to do a similar study to help understand the economic
 impact of OSGeo Software on the digital economy. To do this, we need to
 understand the metrics used for calculating this. Can anyone who has done
 similar studies in other domains help me point to any relevant articles for
 helping find a framework for this. We need to know the underlying metrics
 so we can use that same framework for this study.

 For example, reading through
 http://news.aag.org/2015/05/aag-seeks-proposal-authors-reviewers-for-new-ap-course-in-gist/
 i understand that  In 2014, Esri announced a $1 billion gift of
 cloud-based ArcGIS Online software to support the Obama Administration’s
 ConnectEd initiative. This remarkable gift is providing free ArcGIS Online
 accounts to any public or private school upon request.  I am interested to
 understand how this $1 billion gift is calculated?  Can anyone
 knowledgeable on this provide the details of these metrics use for this
 calculation?

 For example, The GeoAcademy MOOC program that our colleagues did ( i
 understand that for just the March 2015 cohert were 4000 students in thier
 program who all used QGIS), so if they all had to buy properitory software
 for thier study, how much will they have to pay? and will it be possible to
 even run a course like this ? It is important to quantify this as it will
 help us also appreciate  the great donation of the Open Source Geospatial
 Foundation and the importance of Open Principles in Education.

 Once we can get details of the metrics used for the calculation of
 properitory software donation, we can use the same metric to understand the
 impact of OSGeo software donations over many years to the Global geospatial
 education, economy and business and help us with the new research paper
 that i am planning to work on The Economic Impacts of Open Source
 Geospatial Software. I will acknowledge all contributions/inputs recieved
 from the wider community in this planned research paper. If you done
 similar kind of study, in other domains , it will be helpful to get your
 ideas. Thanks in advance.

 Best wishes,

 Suchith



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[OSGeo-Discuss] How to quantify the economic impact of OSGeo software? Your help needed for a research article

2015-06-02 Thread Suchith Anand
Hi all,

Few years ago, myself and colleagues here did a study  to help us understand 
the social history of collaborative activities within the OSGeo ecosystem.  The 
results were published as a research paper on Mapping Collaboration in Open 
Source Geospatial Ecosystem in Transactions in GIS (Volume 16, Issue 4, pages 
581–597, 2012). 

Last year after OSGIS 2014, following informal discussions with some 
colleagues, i decided to do a similar study to help understand the economic 
impact of OSGeo Software on the digital economy. To do this, we need to 
understand the metrics used for calculating this. Can anyone who has done 
similar studies in other domains help me point to any relevant articles for 
helping find a framework for this. We need to know the underlying metrics so we 
can use that same framework for this study.

For example, reading through 
http://news.aag.org/2015/05/aag-seeks-proposal-authors-reviewers-for-new-ap-course-in-gist/
  i understand that  In 2014, Esri announced a $1 billion gift of cloud-based 
ArcGIS Online software to support the Obama Administration’s ConnectEd 
initiative. This remarkable gift is providing free ArcGIS Online accounts to 
any public or private school upon request.  I am interested to understand how 
this $1 billion gift is calculated?  Can anyone knowledgeable on this provide 
the details of these metrics use for this calculation? 

For example, The GeoAcademy MOOC program that our colleagues did ( i understand 
that for just the March 2015 cohert were 4000 students in thier program who all 
used QGIS), so if they all had to buy properitory software for thier study, how 
much will they have to pay? and will it be possible to even run a course like 
this ? It is important to quantify this as it will help us also appreciate  the 
great donation of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation and the importance of 
Open Principles in Education.

Once we can get details of the metrics used for the calculation of properitory 
software donation, we can use the same metric to understand the impact of OSGeo 
software donations over many years to the Global geospatial education, economy 
and business and help us with the new research paper that i am planning to work 
on The Economic Impacts of Open Source Geospatial Software. I will 
acknowledge all contributions/inputs recieved from the wider community in this 
planned research paper. If you done similar kind of study, in other domains , 
it will be helpful to get your ideas. Thanks in advance.

Best wishes,

Suchith



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How to quantify the economic impact of OSGeo software? Your help needed for a research article

2015-06-02 Thread Jeff McKenna
Regarding metrics, I try to check into this for the OSGeo community 
about once a month; and oddly enough, yesterday I spent effort on 
updating our community statistics (recorded at 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/VisibilityStats).


But it is not easy.

And much more can be done.

So my point is that it is also difficult for the open community to 
quantify our impact.


Also related: yesterday I saw Tim Sutton tweet an interesting study 
comparing the feasibility of QGIS vs ArcGIS.  It contains some numbers. 
https://twitter.com/timlinux/status/605398737922359297


-jeff




On 2015-06-02 8:58 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:

Hi all,

Few years ago, myself and colleagues here did a study  to help us understand the social 
history of collaborative activities within the OSGeo ecosystem.  The results were 
published as a research paper on Mapping Collaboration in Open Source Geospatial 
Ecosystem in Transactions in GIS (Volume 16, Issue 4, pages 581–597, 2012).

Last year after OSGIS 2014, following informal discussions with some 
colleagues, i decided to do a similar study to help understand the economic 
impact of OSGeo Software on the digital economy. To do this, we need to 
understand the metrics used for calculating this. Can anyone who has done 
similar studies in other domains help me point to any relevant articles for 
helping find a framework for this. We need to know the underlying metrics so we 
can use that same framework for this study.

For example, reading through 
http://news.aag.org/2015/05/aag-seeks-proposal-authors-reviewers-for-new-ap-course-in-gist/
  i understand that  In 2014, Esri announced a $1 billion gift of cloud-based 
ArcGIS Online software to support the Obama Administration’s ConnectEd initiative. This 
remarkable gift is providing free ArcGIS Online accounts to any public or private school 
upon request.  I am interested to understand how this $1 billion gift is 
calculated?  Can anyone knowledgeable on this provide the details of these metrics use 
for this calculation?

For example, The GeoAcademy MOOC program that our colleagues did ( i understand 
that for just the March 2015 cohert were 4000 students in thier program who all 
used QGIS), so if they all had to buy properitory software for thier study, how 
much will they have to pay? and will it be possible to even run a course like 
this ? It is important to quantify this as it will help us also appreciate  the 
great donation of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation and the importance of 
Open Principles in Education.

Once we can get details of the metrics used for the calculation of properitory software 
donation, we can use the same metric to understand the impact of OSGeo software donations 
over many years to the Global geospatial education, economy and business and help us with 
the new research paper that i am planning to work on The Economic Impacts of Open 
Source Geospatial Software. I will acknowledge all contributions/inputs recieved 
from the wider community in this planned research paper. If you done similar kind of 
study, in other domains , it will be helpful to get your ideas. Thanks in advance.

Best wishes,

Suchith



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