Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-22 Thread Stephan Meißl
Hi all,

same here, as said in the beginning I'm unfortunately not able to travel
but will contribute material mainly from MapServer as needed.

cu
Stephan


On 05/21/2013 08:45 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry for my later reply.
> I agree with the suggested solution to split the workshop time, I don't
> see another way to do this.
> 
> As we discussed in the initial hangout, unfortunately I won't be able to
> attend, but I will contribute with workshop material.
> 
> Best regards,
> Angelos
> 
> On 05/21/2013 09:23 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> thank you for your thoughts. I'm a bit surprised that I didn't hear from
>> other co-authors. At this point I would like to know who is planning to be
>> there at the workshop anyway.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini <
>> simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao Jachym,
>>> a few clarifications below...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Simone Giannecchini
>>> ==
>>> GeoServer training in Milan, 6th & 7th June 2013! Visit
>>> http://geoserver.geo-solutions.it for more information.
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Ing. Simone Giannecchini
>>> @simogeo
>>> Founder/Director
>>>
>>> GeoSolutions S.A.S.
>>> Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
>>> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
>>> Italy
>>> phone: +39 0584 962313
>>> fax: +39 0584 1660272
>>> mob:   +39 333 8128928
>>>
>>> http://www.geo-solutions.it
>>> http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
>>>  wrote:
 Hi Madi,

 I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
 - do you know by chance, how far the process is?

 As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
 product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.

 I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
 I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
 have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.

 From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
 workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
 share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
 (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
 company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.

>>> That was exactly my proposal :)
>>> We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
>>> workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
>>> actually contraddicted what was asked from
>>> the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
>>> precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
>>> workshop at the end.
>>>
>>>
 NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
 think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
 committee forses us to compete as international organization with
 semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
 see it completely wrong?)

>>> Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
>>> try to change things :)
>>> I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
>>> admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
>>> as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
>>> bit of what we do.
>>>
 I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
 important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
 brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
 little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).

 Thanks

 Jachym

 Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
> Dear All,
>
> as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an
>>> email
> from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
> space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small
>>> number of
> the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their
>>> request
> was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by
>>> Simone
> Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
>
> "Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
> MapStore"
>
> Simone was in cc in this email.
> I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
> possible scenarios:
>
> 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
> 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
>
> Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide
>>> for
> the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
> minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
> comfortably.
>
> A

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-22 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Hi All!

*Latest updates:*
I talked to the conference organisers and came out that there is the
possibility to maintain separate the two workshop, because there's an
available slot for a workshop on Sunday morning. I talked to Simone and he
very kindly made himself available to take this slot, hence we will have
the whole 90 minutes at our disposal for the OSGeo workshop, that will take
place presumably on Monday morning.


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini <
simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:

> Ciao Jachym,
> a few clarifications below...
>
> Regards,
> Simone Giannecchini
> ==
> GeoServer training in Milan, 6th & 7th June 2013! Visit
> http://geoserver.geo-solutions.it for more information.
> ==
>
> Ing. Simone Giannecchini
> @simogeo
> Founder/Director
>
> GeoSolutions S.A.S.
> Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
> Italy
> phone: +39 0584 962313
> fax: +39 0584 1660272
> mob:   +39 333 8128928
>
> http://www.geo-solutions.it
> http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it
>
> ---
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
>  wrote:
> > Hi Madi,
> >
> > I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
> > - do you know by chance, how far the process is?
> >
> > As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
> > product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.
> >
> > I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
> > I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
> > have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.
> >
> > From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
> > workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
> > share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
> > (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
> > company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.
> >
>
> That was exactly my proposal :)
> We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
> workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
> actually contraddicted what was asked from
> the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
> precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
> workshop at the end.
>
>
> > NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
> > think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
> > committee forses us to compete as international organization with
> > semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
> > see it completely wrong?)
> >
>
> Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
> try to change things :)
> I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
> admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
> as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
> bit of what we do.
>
> > I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
> > important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
> > brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
> > little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jachym
> >
> > Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an
> email
> >> from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
> >> space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small
> number of
> >> the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their
> request
> >> was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by
> Simone
> >> Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
> >>
> >> "Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
> >> MapStore"
> >>
> >> Simone was in cc in this email.
> >> I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
> >> possible scenarios:
> >>
> >> 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
> >> 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
> >>
> >> Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide
> for
> >> the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
> >> minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
> >> comfortably.
> >>
> >> Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
> >> workshop, and the proposal would be something like:
> >>
> >> "Ping-Pong match: OSGeo & INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using
> MapStore
> >> for INSPIRE Services mashups)"
> >>
> >> Of course also this is open to discussion.
> >>
> >> Please let me know ASAP your reaction.
> >>
> >> Thank you and best regards,
> >>
> >> Margherita
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal
> >>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-21 Thread maria . brovelli

I let you know as soon as I have the schedule for the NASA WW challenge.
Cheers.
Maria




Def. Quota Margherita Di Leo :


Thanks Maria,

from informal communication i gathered it will take place on Monday morning.


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM, wrote:


Margherita, sorry I missed part of the info. When it is supposed to be the
workshop?
In Florence I have also the NASA WW challenge and therefore, as told, I
have to verify if I'm free or not when there is the workshop.
Many thanks!
Maria



Def. Quota Margherita Di Leo :


 Hi,


thank you for your thoughts. I'm a bit surprised that I didn't hear from
other co-authors. At this point I would like to know who is planning to be
there at the workshop anyway.

Thanks

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini <
simone.giannecchini@geo-**solutions.it>
wrote:

 Ciao Jachym,

a few clarifications below...

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
==
GeoServer training in Milan, 6th & 7th June 2013! Visit
http://geoserver.geo-**solutions.it  
for more information.

==

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054  Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob:   +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/**geosolutions_it

--**-


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
 wrote:
> Hi Madi,
>
> I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed
presentation
> - do you know by chance, how far the process is?
>
> As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
> product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.
>
> I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
> I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they
would
> have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.
>
> From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
> workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
> share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
> (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
> company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.
>

That was exactly my proposal :)
We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
actually contraddicted what was asked from
the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
workshop at the end.


> NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
> think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
> committee forses us to compete as international organization with
> semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
> see it completely wrong?)
>

Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
try to change things :)
I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
bit of what we do.

> I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
> important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and
that
> brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push
it
> little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).
>
> Thanks
>
> Jachym
>
> Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
>> Dear All,
>>
>> as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an
email
>> from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
>> space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small
number of
>> the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their
request
>> was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by
Simone
>> Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
>>
>> "Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
>> MapStore"
>>
>> Simone was in cc in this email.
>> I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
>> possible scenarios:
>>
>> 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
>> 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
>>
>> Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide
for
>> the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
>> minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
>> comfortably.
>>
>> Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for
the
>> workshop, and the proposal would be something like:
>>
>> "Ping-Pong match: OSGeo & INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using
MapStore
>> for INSPIRE Services mashups)"
>>
>> Of course also this is open to discussion.
>>
>> Please let me know ASAP your reaction.
>>
>> T

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-21 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Thanks Maria,

from informal communication i gathered it will take place on Monday morning.


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM, wrote:

> Margherita, sorry I missed part of the info. When it is supposed to be the
> workshop?
> In Florence I have also the NASA WW challenge and therefore, as told, I
> have to verify if I'm free or not when there is the workshop.
> Many thanks!
> Maria
>
>
>
> Def. Quota Margherita Di Leo :
>
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> thank you for your thoughts. I'm a bit surprised that I didn't hear from
>> other co-authors. At this point I would like to know who is planning to be
>> there at the workshop anyway.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini <
>> simone.giannecchini@geo-**solutions.it>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Ciao Jachym,
>>> a few clarifications below...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Simone Giannecchini
>>> ==
>>> GeoServer training in Milan, 6th & 7th June 2013! Visit
>>> http://geoserver.geo-**solutions.it for 
>>> more information.
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Ing. Simone Giannecchini
>>> @simogeo
>>> Founder/Director
>>>
>>> GeoSolutions S.A.S.
>>> Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
>>> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
>>> Italy
>>> phone: +39 0584 962313
>>> fax: +39 0584 1660272
>>> mob:   +39 333 8128928
>>>
>>> http://www.geo-solutions.it
>>> http://twitter.com/**geosolutions_it
>>>
>>> --**-
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Hi Madi,
>>> >
>>> > I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed
>>> presentation
>>> > - do you know by chance, how far the process is?
>>> >
>>> > As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
>>> > product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.
>>> >
>>> > I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
>>> > I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they
>>> would
>>> > have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.
>>> >
>>> > From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
>>> > workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
>>> > share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
>>> > (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
>>> > company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.
>>> >
>>>
>>> That was exactly my proposal :)
>>> We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
>>> workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
>>> actually contraddicted what was asked from
>>> the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
>>> precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
>>> workshop at the end.
>>>
>>>
>>> > NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
>>> > think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
>>> > committee forses us to compete as international organization with
>>> > semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
>>> > see it completely wrong?)
>>> >
>>>
>>> Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
>>> try to change things :)
>>> I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
>>> admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
>>> as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
>>> bit of what we do.
>>>
>>> > I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
>>> > important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and
>>> that
>>> > brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push
>>> it
>>> > little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Jachym
>>> >
>>> > Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
>>> >> Dear All,
>>> >>
>>> >> as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an
>>> email
>>> >> from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
>>> >> space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small
>>> number of
>>> >> the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their
>>> request
>>> >> was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by
>>> Simone
>>> >> Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
>>> >>
>>> >> "Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
>>> >> MapStore"
>>> >>
>>> >> Simone was in cc in this email.
>>> >> I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
>>> >> possible scenarios:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
>>> >> 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
>>> >>
>>> >> Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide
>>> for
>>> >> the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
>>> >> minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
>>>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-21 Thread maria . brovelli
Margherita, sorry I missed part of the info. When it is supposed to be  
the workshop?
In Florence I have also the NASA WW challenge and therefore, as told,  
I have to verify if I'm free or not when there is the workshop.

Many thanks!
Maria



Def. Quota Margherita Di Leo :


Hi,

thank you for your thoughts. I'm a bit surprised that I didn't hear from
other co-authors. At this point I would like to know who is planning to be
there at the workshop anyway.

Thanks

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini <
simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:


Ciao Jachym,
a few clarifications below...

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
==
GeoServer training in Milan, 6th & 7th June 2013! Visit
http://geoserver.geo-solutions.it for more information.
==

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054  Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob:   +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

---


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
 wrote:
> Hi Madi,
>
> I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
> - do you know by chance, how far the process is?
>
> As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
> product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.
>
> I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
> I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
> have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.
>
> From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
> workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
> share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
> (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
> company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.
>

That was exactly my proposal :)
We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
actually contraddicted what was asked from
the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
workshop at the end.


> NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
> think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
> committee forses us to compete as international organization with
> semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
> see it completely wrong?)
>

Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
try to change things :)
I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
bit of what we do.

> I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
> important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
> brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
> little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).
>
> Thanks
>
> Jachym
>
> Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
>> Dear All,
>>
>> as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an
email
>> from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
>> space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small
number of
>> the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their
request
>> was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by
Simone
>> Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
>>
>> "Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
>> MapStore"
>>
>> Simone was in cc in this email.
>> I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
>> possible scenarios:
>>
>> 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
>> 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
>>
>> Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide
for
>> the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
>> minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
>> comfortably.
>>
>> Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
>> workshop, and the proposal would be something like:
>>
>> "Ping-Pong match: OSGeo & INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using
MapStore
>> for INSPIRE Services mashups)"
>>
>> Of course also this is open to discussion.
>>
>> Please let me know ASAP your reaction.
>>
>> Thank you and best regards,
>>
>> Margherita
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
> --
> Jachym Cepicky
> Help Service - Remo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-21 Thread Angelos Tzotsos

Hi all,

Sorry for my later reply.
I agree with the suggested solution to split the workshop time, I don't 
see another way to do this.


As we discussed in the initial hangout, unfortunately I won't be able to 
attend, but I will contribute with workshop material.


Best regards,
Angelos

On 05/21/2013 09:23 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:

Hi,

thank you for your thoughts. I'm a bit surprised that I didn't hear from
other co-authors. At this point I would like to know who is planning to be
there at the workshop anyway.

Thanks

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini <
simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:


Ciao Jachym,
a few clarifications below...

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
==
GeoServer training in Milan, 6th & 7th June 2013! Visit
http://geoserver.geo-solutions.it for more information.
==

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054  Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob:   +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

---


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
 wrote:

Hi Madi,

I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
- do you know by chance, how far the process is?

As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.

I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.

 From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
(rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.


That was exactly my proposal :)
We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
actually contraddicted what was asked from
the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
workshop at the end.



NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
committee forses us to compete as international organization with
semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
see it completely wrong?)


Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
try to change things :)
I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
bit of what we do.


I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).

Thanks

Jachym

Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):

Dear All,

as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an

email

from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small

number of

the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their

request

was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by

Simone

Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:

"Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
MapStore"

Simone was in cc in this email.
I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
possible scenarios:

1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.

Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide

for

the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
comfortably.

Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
workshop, and the proposal would be something like:

"Ping-Pong match: OSGeo & INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using

MapStore

for INSPIRE Services mashups)"

Of course also this is open to discussion.

Please let me know ASAP your reaction.

Thank you and best regards,

Margherita




[1]

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-21 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Hi,

thank you for your thoughts. I'm a bit surprised that I didn't hear from
other co-authors. At this point I would like to know who is planning to be
there at the workshop anyway.

Thanks

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Simone Giannecchini <
simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:

> Ciao Jachym,
> a few clarifications below...
>
> Regards,
> Simone Giannecchini
> ==
> GeoServer training in Milan, 6th & 7th June 2013! Visit
> http://geoserver.geo-solutions.it for more information.
> ==
>
> Ing. Simone Giannecchini
> @simogeo
> Founder/Director
>
> GeoSolutions S.A.S.
> Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
> Italy
> phone: +39 0584 962313
> fax: +39 0584 1660272
> mob:   +39 333 8128928
>
> http://www.geo-solutions.it
> http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it
>
> ---
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
>  wrote:
> > Hi Madi,
> >
> > I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
> > - do you know by chance, how far the process is?
> >
> > As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
> > product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.
> >
> > I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
> > I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
> > have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.
> >
> > From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
> > workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
> > share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
> > (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
> > company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.
> >
>
> That was exactly my proposal :)
> We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
> workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
> actually contraddicted what was asked from
> the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
> precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
> workshop at the end.
>
>
> > NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
> > think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
> > committee forses us to compete as international organization with
> > semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
> > see it completely wrong?)
> >
>
> Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
> try to change things :)
> I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
> admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
> as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
> bit of what we do.
>
> > I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
> > important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
> > brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
> > little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jachym
> >
> > Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an
> email
> >> from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
> >> space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small
> number of
> >> the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their
> request
> >> was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by
> Simone
> >> Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
> >>
> >> "Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
> >> MapStore"
> >>
> >> Simone was in cc in this email.
> >> I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
> >> possible scenarios:
> >>
> >> 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
> >> 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
> >>
> >> Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide
> for
> >> the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
> >> minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
> >> comfortably.
> >>
> >> Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
> >> workshop, and the proposal would be something like:
> >>
> >> "Ping-Pong match: OSGeo & INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using
> MapStore
> >> for INSPIRE Services mashups)"
> >>
> >> Of course also this is open to discussion.
> >>
> >> Please let me know ASAP your reaction.
> >>
> >> Thank you and best regards,
> >>
> >> Margherita
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-21 Thread Simone Giannecchini
Ciao Jachym,
a few clarifications below...

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
==
GeoServer training in Milan, 6th & 7th June 2013! Visit
http://geoserver.geo-solutions.it for more information.
==

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054  Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob:   +39  333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Jachym Cepicky
 wrote:
> Hi Madi,
>
> I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
> - do you know by chance, how far the process is?
>
> As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
> product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.
>
> I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
> I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
> have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.
>
> From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
> workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
> share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
> (rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
> company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.
>

That was exactly my proposal :)
We also had to try and find a decent title as having two different
workshops using portions of the same time seemed misleading and
actually contraddicted what was asked from
the organizers. Therefore I suggested to split the time giving
precedence to the OSGEO based discussion and then hold the MapStore
workshop at the end.


> NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
> think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
> committee forses us to compete as international organization with
> semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
> see it completely wrong?)
>

Well, life isn't perfect and we need to live with what we are while we
try to change things :)
I believe the solution we are proposing here is Ok (not perfect I
admit) as I believe leaves enough room for discussion
as well as as enough room for us (as in GeoSolutions) for showing a
bit of what we do.

> I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
> important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
> brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
> little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).
>
> Thanks
>
> Jachym
>
> Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
>> Dear All,
>>
>> as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an email
>> from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
>> space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small number of
>> the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their request
>> was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by Simone
>> Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
>>
>> "Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
>> MapStore"
>>
>> Simone was in cc in this email.
>> I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
>> possible scenarios:
>>
>> 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
>> 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
>>
>> Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide for
>> the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
>> minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
>> comfortably.
>>
>> Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
>> workshop, and the proposal would be something like:
>>
>> "Ping-Pong match: OSGeo & INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using MapStore
>> for INSPIRE Services mashups)"
>>
>> Of course also this is open to discussion.
>>
>> Please let me know ASAP your reaction.
>>
>> Thank you and best regards,
>>
>> Margherita
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal
>>
>>
>>
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>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] INSPIRE Conference 2013 - UPDATES on the workshop

2013-05-20 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Hi Madi,

I still did not obtain any confirmation mail about proposed presentation
- do you know by chance, how far the process is?

As for the workshop, it seems odd to combine MapStore as concrete
product with whole OSGeo stack and more dialogue-based workshop.

I see them as two different topics for completely different auditorium.
I would understand, that MapStore people would feel upset, if they would
have to share their time with "pure" OSGeo.

From my point of view, all decisions are bad (except having two full
workshops accepted). I think, that the best option would than be to
share the time with MapStore and gladly accept their offer kind 30:60
(rather 60:30 - OSGeo in general, MapStore as concrete example of local
company using and developing OSGeo projects), if possible.

NOTE: This is nothing against MapStore. I wish them all the best and I
think, they deserve full workshop time slot as well. INSPIRE conference
committee forses us to compete as international organization with
semi-local company (GeoSolution). This is simply not all right (or do I
see it completely wrong?)

I also think, this shows us, that OSGeo is not taken seriously as
important partner to conference committee of INSPIRE conference and that
brings me back to our SDI committee proposed earlier - I have to push it
little bit further (I do not like pushing to hard, though).

Thanks

Jachym

Dne 20.5.2013 15:47, Margherita Di Leo napsal(a):
> Dear All,
> 
> as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an email
> from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
> space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small number of
> the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their request
> was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by Simone
> Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:
> 
> "Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
> MapStore"
> 
> Simone was in cc in this email.
> I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
> possible scenarios:
> 
> 1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
> 2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.
> 
> Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide for
> the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
> minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
> comfortably.
> 
> Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
> workshop, and the proposal would be something like:
> 
> "Ping-Pong match: OSGeo & INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using MapStore
> for INSPIRE Services mashups)"
> 
> Of course also this is open to discussion.
> 
> Please let me know ASAP your reaction.
> 
> Thank you and best regards,
> 
> Margherita
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal
> 
> 
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2013-05-20 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Dear All,

as correspondent author for the workshop proposal [1], I received an email
from the INSPIRE Conference Organisers. Unfortunately, due to time and
space limitations, it is possible for them to only choose a small number of
the submitted workshops to appear in the programme. Therefore their request
was to combine, if possible, our workshop with the one submitted by Simone
Giannecchini and Tobia Di Pisa:

"Hands-on Introduction to create mash-ups for INSPIRE Services with
MapStore"

Simone was in cc in this email.
I just had a Skype talk with Simone, and we individuated a couple of
possible scenarios:

1) Withdraw one of the two workshops; or
2) Split the 90 minutes at our disposal in two.

Of course this decision is up to all the co-authors. In case we decide for
the second solution, Simone kindly offered to shrink his time to 30
minutes, in order to allow the round table to take place in 60 minutes
comfortably.

Another request from the committee was to delineate a new title for the
workshop, and the proposal would be something like:

"Ping-Pong match: OSGeo & INSPIRE (with a practical intro to using MapStore
for INSPIRE Services mashups)"

Of course also this is open to discussion.

Please let me know ASAP your reaction.

Thank you and best regards,

Margherita




[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/INSPIRE_conference_2013#Workshop_proposal

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