Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Fundraising

2008-06-18 Thread Frank Warmerdam

Landon Blake wrote:

Frank,

Thanks for posting the budget. It was an interesting read. I was
impressed with the fact that the Foss4G conference appears to pay for
itself.


Landon,

It is currently an objective that the conference should make a modest
profit for the foundation (I think we targetted 5% of gross revenue as
profit).  But the Victoria conference, due to great management, sponsorship
and attendance made $100K.

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Fundraising

2008-06-18 Thread Landon Blake
Wow! That is awesome work. It makes me wonder if local
conferences/seminars might also serve as a fund raising vehicle...

Landon

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Landon Blake wrote:
 Frank,
 
 Thanks for posting the budget. It was an interesting read. I was
 impressed with the fact that the Foss4G conference appears to pay for
 itself.

Landon,

It is currently an objective that the conference should make a modest
profit for the foundation (I think we targetted 5% of gross revenue as
profit).  But the Victoria conference, due to great management,
sponsorship
and attendance made $100K.

Best regards,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Fundraising

2008-06-16 Thread Frank Warmerdam

Landon Blake wrote:

Another thing I've been curious about is how any funds raised will be
spent or dispersed. I know we need to pay Tyler's salary. What other
things do we need to pay for? Do we help fund the FOSS4G conference? Do
we fund work/infrastructure for specific projects?

I'd like to learn more about this. I think a web page geared towards
potential contributors with a concise explanation of how duns are spent
would be an aid to fundraising efforts, if we will ever have any.


Landon,

The 2008 budget might help you see what we plan to spend money on.

  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2008

Hopefully the 2007 annual report will be finished soon, and it
will include a financial report on spending during 2007.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Fundraising

2008-06-16 Thread Frank Warmerdam

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BTW, one of the things at Refractions that made tasking more visible
for go do this roles, like the sysadmin, was entering absolutely
every request and job into Trac before fulfilling it.  Does anyone
thing a OSGeo trac would help or hinder? It might get a little stuffed
up with irrelevancies, but it would at least raise the visibility of
things that need to be done. I assume SAC is already running one of
their own?


Paul,

The OSGeo Trac instance is intended to be available for a variety of
OSGeo organizational purposes.  It is used by the incubation, marketting,
and system administration committees at the least, though with various
degrees of rigor.

  http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo

I have found it somewhat helpful having most SAC issues handled through
Trac.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Fundraising

2008-06-16 Thread Allan Doyle
Regarding the income side of the budget, I recommend looking at IRS  
form 8734 [1], which will have to be filled out at the end of the 5th  
year of being a 501(c)(3) organization. OSGeo will have to pass the  
public support test of getting at least 33% of its support from  
public sources. That 33%, if I recall correctly must be made up of  
donations of $5000 or less. That means $35,000 in chunks smaller than  
5K for the budget shown.


I think this is why Creative Commons had that huge donation push a  
couple of years ago, when they realized they were about to bump into  
that.


It can be far harder to get a lot of little donations than a few big  
ones. If OSGeo fails the test, it can cause some major tax and  
reporting headaches.


Better to think about it now and build it into the fundraising.

Allan

[1] http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i8734.pdf
and http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8734.pdf

On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:


Landon Blake wrote:

Another thing I've been curious about is how any funds raised will be
spent or dispersed. I know we need to pay Tyler's salary. What other
things do we need to pay for? Do we help fund the FOSS4G  
conference? Do

we fund work/infrastructure for specific projects?
I'd like to learn more about this. I think a web page geared towards
potential contributors with a concise explanation of how duns are  
spent

would be an aid to fundraising efforts, if we will ever have any.


Landon,

The 2008 budget might help you see what we plan to spend money on.

 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2008

Hopefully the 2007 annual report will be finished soon, and it
will include a financial report on spending during 2007.

Best regards,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Fundraising

2008-06-16 Thread Frank Warmerdam

Allan Doyle wrote:
Regarding the income side of the budget, I recommend looking at IRS form 
8734 [1], which will have to be filled out at the end of the 5th year of 
being a 501(c)(3) organization. OSGeo will have to pass the public 
support test of getting at least 33% of its support from public 
sources. That 33%, if I recall correctly must be made up of donations 
of $5000 or less. That means $35,000 in chunks smaller than 5K for the 
budget shown.


I think this is why Creative Commons had that huge donation push a 
couple of years ago, when they realized they were about to bump into that.


It can be far harder to get a lot of little donations than a few big 
ones. If OSGeo fails the test, it can cause some major tax and reporting 
headaches.


Better to think about it now and build it into the fundraising.


Allan,

Conveniently the Silver sponsorship level for projects, and associate
sponsorship levels come in at $3000 and have proven reasonably popular.
So, for instance, the seven Silver GDAL sponsors bring in $21000 USD towards
that public support test.

The other thing is that we have been advised that registration at the
conference can be considered a contribution and that brings in hundreds
of thousands of dollars in small contributions ($500-$1000).  So as long
as that is legitimate we should have no problem meeting the public support
test.  Of course, we will need to document it properly.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Fundraising

2008-06-12 Thread Landon Blake
I stole the following snippet from another of Paul Ramsey's posts. I
thought it belonged in a separate thread:

Paul wrote: Having a plan to take better advantage of our host nation
status. We pay a good deal in terms of administrative overhead to be a
fully tax-exempt charity in the USofA, what fund raising plans have we
linked to that status?  Is that status gaining us anything at all, at
this point?  The only connection I have *ever* heard was Michael Tiemann
saying he'd only contribute if he could get a US tax write-off.

I've never seen any type of fundraising plan. Do we have one? If we want
to take advantage of our tax-exempt status do we have a list of American
companies that might be possible contributors and might also be
interested in a tax write-off? Do we need to assemble a team to handle
fund-raising efforts? After all, I'm sure that Tyler has his hands full
with the Journal and other items...

Another thing I've been curious about is how any funds raised will be
spent or dispersed. I know we need to pay Tyler's salary. What other
things do we need to pay for? Do we help fund the FOSS4G conference? Do
we fund work/infrastructure for specific projects?

I'd like to learn more about this. I think a web page geared towards
potential contributors with a concise explanation of how duns are spent
would be an aid to fundraising efforts, if we will ever have any.

Landon

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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Arnulf Christl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But instead, she incarnated in the US, the
 most backwater place imaginable wrt Open Source.

So, this raises two actions items:

- Putting our policy online (presumably copied from Apache
shamelessly) in a findable location, to conform to the legal norms of
our host nation.

- Having a plan to take better advantage of our host nation status. We
pay a good deal in terms of administrative overhead to be a fully
tax-exempt charity in the USofA, what fund raising plans have we
linked to that status?  Is that status gaining us anything at all, at
this point?  The only connection I have *ever* heard was Michael
Tiemann saying he'd only contribute if he could get a US tax
write-off.

Both these actions items fall to you, Tyler, could you give us an
update?

BTW, one of the things at Refractions that made tasking more visible
for go do this roles, like the sysadmin, was entering absolutely
every request and job into Trac before fulfilling it.  Does anyone
thing a OSGeo trac would help or hinder? It might get a little stuffed
up with irrelevancies, but it would at least raise the visibility of
things that need to be done. I assume SAC is already running one of
their own?

P.
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