Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
On 23-Aug-08, at 5:21 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Yes, these two types of registrations are clear to me. I'm asking if registeriing #osgeo- prefixed channel automatically makes it into OSGeo group, a registered group. I'm not sure when it comes to the term registration in a technical sense - but essentially yes. It means that OSGeo will have full control of the channel when/if needed. Yes, it becomes related to our group registration. Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 07:13:22AM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Tyler, I also that main benfit of registration is to prevent hijacking of IRC channel. Er, but that's not the same as *group* registration: channel registration is technical (creating/registering the channel through chanserv), group registration is social (filling out paperwork with network admins) right? Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt Web Developer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 07:13:22AM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Tyler, I also that main benfit of registration is to prevent hijacking of IRC channel. Er, but that's not the same as *group* registration: channel registration is technical (creating/registering the channel through chanserv), group registration is social (filling out paperwork with network admins) right? Chris, Yes, these two types of registrations are clear to me. I'm asking if registeriing #osgeo- prefixed channel automatically makes it into OSGeo group, a registered group. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: On 20-Aug-08, at 7:55 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: I have very similar experience about registering a group/project on Freenode. I've done it for MOSS4G and #moss4g channel (I understood I have to register to get registered channel) but with no response. Yes, the group registration took some time and was very manual, but cornering one of the admins online really helped :) I don't see any benefit, personally, to having a registered group managing all the OSGeo project channels as well. Since #osgeo is really the main one tied to an organisation. The main benefit is that no one can officially take over control of your channel for some reason, but if you've registered the channel already, then you already have full control. Tyler, I also that main benfit of registration is to prevent hijacking of IRC channel. If you ever end up being concerned and don't want to risk anything, then rename your channel to include the #osgeo- prefix, e.g. #osgeo-moss4g. A few local chapter groups are already doing this e.g. #osgeo-fr #osgeo-es. Does it mean if I create #osgeo- prefixed channel it's automagically added to the list of registered OSGeo channels? Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
On 20-Aug-08, at 7:55 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: I have very similar experience about registering a group/project on Freenode. I've done it for MOSS4G and #moss4g channel (I understood I have to register to get registered channel) but with no response. Yes, the group registration took some time and was very manual, but cornering one of the admins online really helped :) I don't see any benefit, personally, to having a registered group managing all the OSGeo project channels as well. Since #osgeo is really the main one tied to an organisation. The main benefit is that no one can officially take over control of your channel for some reason, but if you've registered the channel already, then you already have full control. If you ever end up being concerned and don't want to risk anything, then rename your channel to include the #osgeo- prefix, e.g. #osgeo- moss4g. A few local chapter groups are already doing this e.g. #osgeo-fr #osgeo-es. Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
On Tue, August 19, 2008 17:12, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: On 18-Aug-08, at 9:55 PM, Dave Patton wrote: Has the OSGeo foundation, or any of the OSGeo projects, done the Group Registration with freenode? http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml Yes, I did this a long time ago. Our main channel #osgeo and any other channels starting with #osgeo- are registered to our group. We also have the option to use an OSGeo cloak. If you are a regular user and want to hide your hostname and show the special osgeo/ member tag instead, then let me know your nick and I'll request your cloak to be created. Tyler I should read answers to mails prior to answering myself. Do you think it makes any considerable difference whether a channel is registered? Should we try to register them all of can we sub-register as an OSGeo project? Best regards, Arnulf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
On 18-Aug-08, at 9:55 PM, Dave Patton wrote: Has the OSGeo foundation, or any of the OSGeo projects, done the Group Registration with freenode? http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml Yes, I did this a long time ago. Our main channel #osgeo and any other channels starting with #osgeo- are registered to our group. We also have the option to use an OSGeo cloak. If you are a regular user and want to hide your hostname and show the special osgeo/ member tag instead, then let me know your nick and I'll request your cloak to be created. Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
OSGeo makes use of freenode for IRC, including both 'general OSGeo channels' such as #osgeo and project- specific channels. 1) Has the OSGeo board considered contributing to the Peer-Directed Projects Center? http://freenode.net/how_to_help.shtml 2) Has the OSGeo foundation, or any of the OSGeo projects, done the Group Registration with freenode? http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml 3) There has been, on more than one occasion, discussion about whether to use #foss4g as the channel for any discussions relating to the FOSS4G conference, or to continue the pattern of creating a new channel for each year (e.g. #foss4g2007, #foss4g2008, etc.). Jeff McKenna (Conference Committee chair) suggested deferring any decision until after FOSS4G2008, so as not to disrupt any communications relating to the conference, which makes sense. I only raise the issue now because such planning might relate to Group Registration. Info on channel registration on freenode: http://blog.freenode.net/?p=78 Also, it is possible to setup a series of channels such as #foss4g2009, #foss4g2010, etc., and have /join requests redirected to a different channel such as #foss4g (e.g. /mode #foss4g2008 +if #foss4g) -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
