Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Viewer for 3D Maps
Hi Landon, If you just want to share a visualization of some 3D model you maybe can go with 3D-PDF (see example [1]). There is an opensource toolchain using meshlab [2] and LaTEX to compile those 3D PDFs from 3D models (from all formats which you can load into meshlab). If you want to share 3D geometries, there is for example KML and GML/CityGML as a format for more complex models. For those model you need a viewer or some sort of client which procecsses the information suitable for you, there are several out there for KML you would most probably choose Google Earth for viewing. For CityGML, ok here it is expensive or not that easy with OS or free software (for now), so it is not suitable for just showing some people who are not familar with that kind of technology, but in CityGML there are some OS applications out there (for example the deegree framework[3]) you can store all kind of information, which you can't with KML... So, you have to know what you want to do/provide with/from the data... There are also more sophisticated possibilities to share 3D GISdata over the web. One of those possibilities would be for example the open standards based technology of GDI3D [4]. best regards, Christian [1] http://www.epromod.de/images/stories/-bilder-/showroom/3d-pdf/hohe-munde-3d.pdf [2] http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/ [3] http://www.deegree.org/ [4] http://www.geographie.uni-bonn.de/karto/gdi-3d/technologie.en.htm Am 29.03.2010 22:20, schrieb Landon Blake: I'm curious if anyone knows of a decent open source viewer for 3D maps. Does such a viewer exist? How widespread is its adoption? I know that Adobe PDF has become a fairly common way to share 2D maps digitally, but I didn't see a lot on the web about a PDF solution for 3D maps. If you build 3D maps and models as part of your work, how do you share them with your clients and the wider public? Thank you for your thoughts. Landon P.S. - Here are a couple of links I ran across for what appear to be open file formats for 3D models. I'm not sure how applicable they would be to 3D maps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COLLADA http://www.web3d.org/about/overview Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Christian Willmes AG GIS Fernerkundung | GIS RS Group Geographisches Institut | Institute of Geography Universität zu Köln | University of Cologne Tel.: +49 (0)221 470 6234 Fax.: +49 (0)221 470 2280 http://www.geographie.uni-koeln.de/gis http://www.sfb806.de ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Viewer for 3D Maps
Landon, We've used VTP (vterrain.org) and modified the GUI of it's Enviro viewer to be a little more end-user friendly. VTP does a good job of providing an interactive 3d environment of DEM and texture (e.g satellite image), and optionally 3d structure models. On the downside, you have to author your datasets carefully (using VTBuilder) to get good performance, and you have to limit your map/model to an extent (it doesn't model a globe, only a projection). There's a ton of 3d modeling info on the VTP web site. Ossim (www.ossim.org) has OssimPlanet which DOES model a globe but it can be an effort to set up (I've never tried it). While we've seen some interest in 3D mapping environments, one difficulty is ease of use from the end user's perspective. They're OK with rendered 3d perspective images, and they LIKE fly-thru movies of terrain. But they LOVE interactive 3d environments, as long as they navigate with ease (and this can be a big problem). They mainly care about the terrain (dem+image) and overlaying map data like points, lines, and polygons (with styling and annotation). While we've shown demos of including 3d structures models (buildings), it hasn't generated much interest. But then we talk to mapping depts, not engineering/construction. Best Regards, Brent Fraser GeoAnalytic Inc. Landon Blake wrote: I’m curious if anyone knows of a decent open source viewer for 3D maps. Does such a viewer exist? How widespread is its adoption? I know that Adobe PDF has become a fairly common way to share 2D maps digitally, but I didn’t see a lot on the web about a PDF solution for 3D maps. If you build 3D maps and models as part of your work, how do you share them with your clients and the wider public? Thank you for your thoughts. Landon P.S. – Here are a couple of links I ran across for what appear to be open file formats for 3D models. I’m not sure how applicable they would be to 3D maps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COLLADA http://www.web3d.org/about/overview *Warning: *Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Viewer for 3D Maps
World Wind - http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/java/ On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Brent Fraser bfra...@geoanalytic.com wrote: Landon, We've used VTP (vterrain.org) and modified the GUI of it's Enviro viewer to be a little more end-user friendly. VTP does a good job of providing an interactive 3d environment of DEM and texture (e.g satellite image), and optionally 3d structure models. On the downside, you have to author your datasets carefully (using VTBuilder) to get good performance, and you have to limit your map/model to an extent (it doesn't model a globe, only a projection). There's a ton of 3d modeling info on the VTP web site. Ossim (www.ossim.org) has OssimPlanet which DOES model a globe but it can be an effort to set up (I've never tried it). While we've seen some interest in 3D mapping environments, one difficulty is ease of use from the end user's perspective. They're OK with rendered 3d perspective images, and they LIKE fly-thru movies of terrain. But they LOVE interactive 3d environments, as long as they navigate with ease (and this can be a big problem). They mainly care about the terrain (dem+image) and overlaying map data like points, lines, and polygons (with styling and annotation). While we've shown demos of including 3d structures models (buildings), it hasn't generated much interest. But then we talk to mapping depts, not engineering/construction. Best Regards, Brent Fraser GeoAnalytic Inc. Landon Blake wrote: I’m curious if anyone knows of a decent open source viewer for 3D maps. Does such a viewer exist? How widespread is its adoption? I know that Adobe PDF has become a fairly common way to share 2D maps digitally, but I didn’t see a lot on the web about a PDF solution for 3D maps. If you build 3D maps and models as part of your work, how do you share them with your clients and the wider public? Thank you for your thoughts. Landon P.S. – Here are a couple of links I ran across for what appear to be open file formats for 3D models. I’m not sure how applicable they would be to 3D maps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COLLADA http://www.web3d.org/about/overview *Warning: *Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Brian Russo / (808) 271 4166 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Viewer for 3D Maps
Brent Fraser wrote: We've used VTP (vterrain.org) and modified the GUI of it's Enviro viewer to be a little more end-user friendly. VTP does a good job of providing an interactive 3d environment of DEM and texture (e.g satellite image), and optionally 3d structure models. On the downside, you have to author your datasets carefully (using VTBuilder) to get good performance, and you have to limit your map/model to an extent (it doesn't model a globe, only a projection). There's a ton of 3d modeling info on the VTP web site. You're bringing back some good old memories for me Brent! I used VTP a lot in my last job and it produced some wildly beautiful product and exciting fly over animation abilities (among other things). Ecologists especially liked the function allowing you to draw/digitise onto the terrain in 3D mode. We had Python scripts that did all our dataset prep for us, and if my memory serves me right, we even had ways of converting the digitised stuff back into a shapefile for use in our other apps. Ossim (www.ossim.org) has OssimPlanet which DOES model a globe but it can be an effort to set up (I've never tried it). Binaries are available for download for most platforms. Then you probably want to get a terrain model (just one big download) and put it in the right folder. Other than that it's pretty easy to get started with WMS or file datasources. Thanks for the memories :) Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Viewer for 3D Maps
On Mar 30, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Brent Fraser wrote: Ossim (www.ossim.org) has OssimPlanet which DOES model a globe but it can be an effort to set up (I've never tried it). FYI there are downloadable binary OSSIM packages for Windows and Mac at http://download.osgeo.org/ossim/installers/ Cheers Norman___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Viewer for 3D Maps
And also Ratman: http://ratman.sourceforge.net/ which even includes the data streaming server software. Markus On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Brian Russo br...@beruna.org wrote: World Wind - http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/java/ On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Brent Fraser bfra...@geoanalytic.com wrote: Landon, We've used VTP (vterrain.org) and modified the GUI of it's Enviro viewer to ... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Viewer for 3D Maps
I'm curious if anyone knows of a decent open source viewer for 3D maps. Does such a viewer exist? How widespread is its adoption? I know that Adobe PDF has become a fairly common way to share 2D maps digitally, but I didn't see a lot on the web about a PDF solution for 3D maps. If you build 3D maps and models as part of your work, how do you share them with your clients and the wider public? Thank you for your thoughts. Landon P.S. - Here are a couple of links I ran across for what appear to be open file formats for 3D models. I'm not sure how applicable they would be to 3D maps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COLLADA http://www.web3d.org/about/overview Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
