Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Predictions about Open Geospatial in 2020

2015-09-11 Thread Jo Cook 
Thanks Jody,

I agree with all of your points here, though the security aspect
disappoints me!

Keep them coming folks- off list is fine too :-)

I appreciate that everyone's busy with FOSS4G (lucky people) but if you
have any thoughts, please pass them on. I'm keen that this article doesn't
just represent my own opinions, but reflects the wider community too.

All the best

Jo

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Jody Garnett 
wrote:

> There was a good academic foss4g13 talk exploring devices communicating
> their location back into a visual console - I think we will need to take
> that idea and run with it.
>
> - IoT will not be a thing, instead things will be things (the internet
> will be assumed)
> - I did not mention location there, because location will already be
> assumed
> - Security will still be a pain, but we will give up privacy rather than
> fix it
> - Giving up the privacy associated with location will actually mean giving
> up real privacy (but we won't notice until a generation has grown up
> without it)
> - We have a tradition of spatial being special (things closer together are
> likely correlated) the mix of this assumption with things
> (internet+location) will result in "GIS" behaviours where the closeness
> assumption no longer holds
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 9 September 2015 at 11:42, Jo Cook  wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am writing a paper predicting the state of Open Geospatial in 2020, for
>> a Foresight study for the Association for Geographic Information (
>> http://www.agi.org.uk/). I contributed to their previous foresight
>> study- on the state of Open Geospatial in 2015 (written in 2010). See
>> http://www.agi.org.uk/news/foresight-report for a link to the pdf.
>>
>> In this case, "Open" is not simply limited to Open Source, but also Open
>> Data, Open Standards, and unfortunately many other meanings of the term
>> "Open".
>>
>> I asked for predictions for the previous study here on the OSGeo Discuss
>> list (though I can't find the thread in the archives) and I'm both keen and
>> curious to crowd-source some opinions/predictions again now. Anything I use
>> will be cited, unless you don't want it to be!
>>
>> Grateful thanks in advance
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> --
>> *Jo Cook*
>> Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey,
>> KT18 7RL, UK
>> t:+44 7930 524 155
>> iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
>> 
>>
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>>
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>
>


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Predictions about Open Geospatial in 2020

2015-09-09 Thread Jody Garnett 
There was a good academic foss4g13 talk exploring devices communicating
their location back into a visual console - I think we will need to take
that idea and run with it.

- IoT will not be a thing, instead things will be things (the internet will
be assumed)
- I did not mention location there, because location will already be assumed
- Security will still be a pain, but we will give up privacy rather than
fix it
- Giving up the privacy associated with location will actually mean giving
up real privacy (but we won't notice until a generation has grown up
without it)
- We have a tradition of spatial being special (things closer together are
likely correlated) the mix of this assumption with things
(internet+location) will result in "GIS" behaviours where the closeness
assumption no longer holds

--
Jody Garnett

On 9 September 2015 at 11:42, Jo Cook  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I am writing a paper predicting the state of Open Geospatial in 2020, for
> a Foresight study for the Association for Geographic Information (
> http://www.agi.org.uk/). I contributed to their previous foresight study-
> on the state of Open Geospatial in 2015 (written in 2010). See
> http://www.agi.org.uk/news/foresight-report for a link to the pdf.
>
> In this case, "Open" is not simply limited to Open Source, but also Open
> Data, Open Standards, and unfortunately many other meanings of the term
> "Open".
>
> I asked for predictions for the previous study here on the OSGeo Discuss
> list (though I can't find the thread in the archives) and I'm both keen and
> curious to crowd-source some opinions/predictions again now. Anything I use
> will be cited, unless you don't want it to be!
>
> Grateful thanks in advance
>
> Jo
>
> --
> *Jo Cook*
> Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey, KT18
> 7RL, UK
> t:+44 7930 524 155
> iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
> 
>
> *
>
> Company registration no. 5410695. Registered in England and Wales.
> Registered office: 120 Manor Green Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT19 8LN VAT no.
> 864201149.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Predictions about Open Geospatial in 2020

2015-09-09 Thread Jo Cook 
Dear All,

I am writing a paper predicting the state of Open Geospatial in 2020, for a
Foresight study for the Association for Geographic Information (
http://www.agi.org.uk/). I contributed to their previous foresight study-
on the state of Open Geospatial in 2015 (written in 2010). See
http://www.agi.org.uk/news/foresight-report for a link to the pdf.

In this case, "Open" is not simply limited to Open Source, but also Open
Data, Open Standards, and unfortunately many other meanings of the term
"Open".

I asked for predictions for the previous study here on the OSGeo Discuss
list (though I can't find the thread in the archives) and I'm both keen and
curious to crowd-source some opinions/predictions again now. Anything I use
will be cited, unless you don't want it to be!

Grateful thanks in advance

Jo

-- 
*Jo Cook*
Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey, KT18
7RL, UK
t:+44 7930 524 155
iShare - Data integration and publishing platform


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