Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients
Who else will have project comparison material developed for FOSS4G which you would like incorporated into the OSGeoLive DVD to be handed out at FOSS4G? German, As mentioned earlier, I think that comparison summaries like this one you have created is hugely valuable to new users considering migrating to Open Source. The first question I usually get at an OSGeo marketing booth is What should I use to do XXX? I'll send you some detailed feedback and suggestions directly. What I'd like to do is hear from everyone who is planning to create comparison material, and then agree on a common format for presenting that material. Below are presentations which may be candidates: 39,Mobile,Comparativa,271,A comparison of GIS mobile applications,Miguel Montesinos,PRODEVELOP, 61,Desktop,3D,254,Comparison of Open Source Virtual Globes,Mathias Walker,Sourcepole AG, 50,Standard,Comparativa,138,Comparison of SOS-Servers: 52°North, UMN and deegree ,Mayer Christian,terrestris GmbH Co KG, 5,Comparativas,Caché,137,TileCache,GeowebCache and MapProxy - a technical and usability comparison,Till Adams,terrestris GmbH Co KG, 31,Desktop,Comparativa,363,Gesopatial Desktop Comparison,Cameron Shorter,Lisasoft, 3,Comparativas,OGC,81,Web Mapping Performance Shootout,Jeff McKenna,Gateway Geomatics, 11,Comparativas,BDD,38,Beyond PostGIS - New developments in Open Source Spatial Databases,Karsten Vennemann,TerraGIS Ltd, On 22/06/10 02:48, geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org wrote: Hi all. I've just finished the english translation of the comparison v.4 [1]. I did some adjustments to the previous translation (I'm not a native speaker) as well as other changes you can read in the What's new in this version? section. Cameron, if you want, I'm able to send you the source files (html, css, png...). Regards, Germán -- [1] http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?option=com_myblogtask=viewid=257Itemid=59lang=en -- --- |\__ (:__)( |/ Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ -Original Message- From: geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Sent: Wed, Apr 21, 2010 9:57 am Subject: Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients Hi Cameron. Sure! I would like it a lot. I plan to publish the 4th version of the comparison on next month. So far, the decision tree is just an idea, but I think with enough time it could be done. Regards. Germán -- --- |\__ (:__)( |/ Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ -Original Message- From: Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org; Arnulf Christl arn...@osgeo.org mailto:arn...@osgeo.org; German Carrillo geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org mailto:geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org Sent: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 3:24 pm Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients Arnulf, I'd be interested to hear whether German's offer of comparing webmap projects would be of value to you in preparing your foss4g presentation about webmapping. German, I am very excited by the cross project comparison work you have been doing. I have just spent a week at the OSGeo booth at the international conference for surveyors, and one of common questions people ask is I'm current using XXX to do YYY, does Open Source provide a tool which could do something similar? ... Which would you recommend? I'd love to be able to point to, and hand out your webmapping comparison table. So I'd like to have your webmap comparison table and decision tree incorporated into the OSGeo LiveDVD which we were handing out at the conference, and probably also make it available as a flier. If you can create the material, I can help you get the material onto the LiveDVD and into OSGeo Marketing channels. geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org mailto:geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org wrote: (Sorry, I don't know how to follow the thread, I'm just registered) Hi all, I'm Germán Carrillo and it's a pleasure to have been invited to this discussion, thanks Cameron! As Cameron said, I've been mantaining a web map client comparison for the last year and a half. I've received support and suggestions for most of this projects, for some people from the OSGeo-es local chapter and from Paolo Cavallini (faunalia). The comparison is wide in terms of number of projects but it lacks a set of functionalities for each one. In a few days I'll start to prepare the 4th version and I want to include some other projects there. I also was thinking that it could be possible (in a near future) to add a decision tree to guide the selection process of a web map client. So, as you expected, I'd like to join this effort and build a presentation for the FOSS4G 2010. My first impression is that you would build
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients
Hi all. I've just finished the english translation of the comparison v.4 [1]. I did some adjustments to the previous translation (I'm not a native speaker) as well as other changes you can read in the What's new in this version? section. Cameron, if you want, I'm able to send you the source files (html, css, png...). Regards, Germán -- [1] http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?option=com_myblogtask=viewid=257Itemid=59lang=en -- --- |\__ (:__)( |/ Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ -Original Message- From: geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Sent: Wed, Apr 21, 2010 9:57 am Subject: Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients Hi Cameron. Sure! I would like it a lot. I plan to publish the 4th version of the comparison on next month. So far, the decision tree is just an idea, but I think with enough time it could be done. Regards. Germán -- --- |\__ (:__)( |/ Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ -Original Message- From: Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org; Arnulf Christl arn...@osgeo.org; German Carrillo geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org Sent: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 3:24 pm Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients Arnulf, I'd be interested to hear whether German's offer of comparing webmap projects would be of value to you in preparing your foss4g presentation about webmapping. German, I am very excited by the cross project comparison work you have been doing. I have just spent a week at the OSGeo booth at the international conference for surveyors, and one of common questions people ask is I'm current using XXX to do YYY, does Open Source provide a tool which could do something similar? ... Which would you recommend? I'd love to be able to point to, and hand out your webmapping comparison table. So I'd like to have your webmap comparison table and decision tree incorporated into the OSGeo LiveDVD which we were handing out at the conference, and probably also make it available as a flier. If you can create the material, I can help you get the material onto the LiveDVD and into OSGeo Marketing channels. geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org wrote: (Sorry, I don't know how to follow the thread, I'm just registered) Hi all, I'm Germán Carrillo and it's a pleasure to have been invited to this discussion, thanks Cameron! As Cameron said, I've been mantaining a web map client comparison for the last year and a half. I've received support and suggestions for most of this projects, for some people from the OSGeo-es local chapter and from Paolo Cavallini (faunalia). The comparison is wide in terms of number of projects but it lacks a set of functionalities for each one. In a few days I'll start to prepare the 4th version and I want to include some other projects there. I also was thinking that it could be possible (in a near future) to add a decision tree to guide the selection process of a web map client. So, as you expected, I'd like to join this effort and build a presentation for the FOSS4G 2010. My first impression is that you would build the presentation for OSGeo projects, but, why not include other projects too? I think it's important to offer alternatives. Anyway, as Arnulf said, there are different kinds of web clients, so maybe we can think on a classification. Regards, Germán -- --- |\__ (:__)( |/ Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients
Hi Cameron. Sure! I would like it a lot. I plan to publish the 4th version of the comparison on next month. So far, the decision tree is just an idea, but I think with enough time it could be done. Regards. Germán -- --- |\__ (:__)( |/ Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ -Original Message- From: Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org; Arnulf Christl arn...@osgeo.org; German Carrillo geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org Sent: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 3:24 pm Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients Arnulf, I'd be interested to hear whether German's offer of comparing webmap projects would be of value to you in preparing your foss4g presentation about webmapping. German, I am very excited by the cross project comparison work you have been doing. I have just spent a week at the OSGeo booth at the international conference for surveyors, and one of common questions people ask is I'm current using XXX to do YYY, does Open Source provide a tool which could do something similar? ... Which would you recommend? I'd love to be able to point to, and hand out your webmapping comparison table. So I'd like to have your webmap comparison table and decision tree incorporated into the OSGeo LiveDVD which we were handing out at the conference, and probably also make it available as a flier. If you can create the material, I can help you get the material onto the LiveDVD and into OSGeo Marketing channels. geotux_tux...@linuxmail.org wrote: (Sorry, I don't know how to follow the thread, I'm just registered) Hi all, I'm Germán Carrillo and it's a pleasure to have been invited to this discussion, thanks Cameron! As Cameron said, I've been mantaining a web map client comparison for the last year and a half. I've received support and suggestions for most of this projects, for some people from the OSGeo-es local chapter and from Paolo Cavallini (faunalia). The comparison is wide in terms of number of projects but it lacks a set of functionalities for each one. In a few days I'll start to prepare the 4th version and I want to include some other projects there. I also was thinking that it could be possible (in a near future) to add a decision tree to guide the selection process of a web map client. So, as you expected, I'd like to join this effort and build a presentation for the FOSS4G 2010. My first impression is that you would build the presentation for OSGeo projects, but, why not include other projects too? I think it's important to offer alternatives. Anyway, as Arnulf said, there are different kinds of web clients, so maybe we can think on a classification. Regards, Germán -- --- |\__ (:__)( |/ Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] RE: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients
(Sorry, I don't know how to follow the thread, I'm just registered) Hi all, I'm Germán Carrillo and it's a pleasure to have been invited to this discussion, thanks Cameron! As Cameron said, I've been mantaining a web map client comparison for the last year and a half. I've received support and suggestions for most of this projects, for some people from the OSGeo-es local chapter and from Paolo Cavallini (faunalia). The comparison is wide in terms of number of projects but it lacks a set of functionalities for each one. In a few days I'll start to prepare the 4th version and I want to include some other projects there. I also was thinking that it could be possible (in a near future) to add a decision tree to guide the selection process of a web map client. So, as you expected, I'd like to join this effort and build a presentation for the FOSS4G 2010. My first impression is that you would build the presentation for OSGeo projects, but, why not include other projects too? I think it's important to offer alternatives. Anyway, as Arnulf said, there are different kinds of web clients, so maybe we can think on a classification. Regards, Germán -- --- |\__ (:__)( |/ Soluciones Geoinformáticas Libres http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients
Hi Cameron, I would be happy to bring my input regarding MapFish. Cédric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: Pieter, good to hear your interest and to hear that geomajas would be covered. Anyone interested to step forward for Openlayers, Mapfish or MabBender? What should be compared between web clients? Think of the target audience for such a comparison being a software developer trying to decide which webmapping framework to use. What would be the questions they ask? Off the top of my head: * What browsers are supported/tested against for each stable release? * How responsive is the application? ** How large is the javascript which needs to be downloaded to the browser? ** * What basemaps are supported ** Google Maps, WMS, WFS, ... * What tools are supported? ** Pan/Zoom/Edit Feature ... Pieter De Graef wrote: Cameron, if the others are too, I would be interested in such a comparison. My main question wouls be, exactly what would we be testing? Performance (how?), functionality, ease-of-use, architecture, I still have to check my schedule, but I believe I can set aside a enough time. I will already forward this mail to the Geomajas mailing list, to check for response there. Cameron Shorter schreef: German Carillo has been building a gis web client comparison which will make a good basis for a foss4g presentation here: http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?option=com_myblogtask=viewid=239Itemid=59lang=en Does anyone know how to contact German so that we can thank him, and invite him to participate in a FOSS4G presentation? Who else would be available to help out with a browser comparison for the various projects? Cameron Shorter wrote: Abstracts for FOSS4G are due next Thursday 15 April 2010 and I'm hoping that we will see abstracts for: * LiveDVD lightening overview * WMS/WFS/WCS Shootout * Desktop comparison * Browser Client comparison * Database comparison I predict that these presentations will be by far the most popular presentations of the conference. Further, I'm expecting to incorporate results onto the LiveDVD. They will be a lot of effort to prepare, partly because they will need a team of project developers to contribute to it, and consequently, unless we get our act together soon, I suspect that no-one will submit presentations for some of the topics above. So I encourage people to respond to the following targeted email threads, noting your intention to help and be part of one of the presentation teams. (Note, the presentation will be the easy bit, the hard bit will be collating the material for the presentation). A good team for these comparison projects will consist of: * a representative from each project in the comparison. These types of comparisons will be the first place new users will go when researching software, so are well worth participating in. * users who have used more than one of the applications * anyone involved in related comparison reviews, or development of feature tables or similar * coordinator/get it done people who can pull it all together * people who can speak well, and efficiently. (You will have lots of material to present is a short time) -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com -- Geospatial Director Camptocamp SA Cédric Moullet PSE A CH-1015 Lausanne www.camptocamp.com / www.mapfish.org / twitter.com/cedricmoullet / mapfishblog.blogspot.com/ +41 79 759 69 83 (mobile) +41 21 619 10 21 (direct) +41 21 619 10 10 (centrale) +41 21 619 10 00 (fax) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients
Cameron, I can provide input on the Fusion client. Mike Cédric Moullet wrote: Hi Cameron, I would be happy to bring my input regarding MapFish. Cédric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Pieter, good to hear your interest and to hear that geomajas would be covered. Anyone interested to step forward for Openlayers, Mapfish or MabBender? What should be compared between web clients? Think of the target audience for such a comparison being a software developer trying to decide which webmapping framework to use. What would be the questions they ask? Off the top of my head: * What browsers are supported/tested against for each stable release? * How responsive is the application? ** How large is the javascript which needs to be downloaded to the browser? ** * What basemaps are supported ** Google Maps, WMS, WFS, ... * What tools are supported? ** Pan/Zoom/Edit Feature ... Pieter De Graef wrote: Cameron, if the others are too, I would be interested in such a comparison. My main question wouls be, exactly what would we be testing? Performance (how?), functionality, ease-of-use, architecture, I still have to check my schedule, but I believe I can set aside a enough time. I will already forward this mail to the Geomajas mailing list, to check for response there. Cameron Shorter schreef: German Carillo has been building a gis web client comparison which will make a good basis for a foss4g presentation here: http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?option=com_myblogtask=viewid=239Itemid=59lang=en http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?option=com_myblogtask=viewid=239Itemid=59lang=en Does anyone know how to contact German so that we can thank him, and invite him to participate in a FOSS4G presentation? Who else would be available to help out with a browser comparison for the various projects? Cameron Shorter wrote: Abstracts for FOSS4G are due next Thursday 15 April 2010 and I'm hoping that we will see abstracts for: * LiveDVD lightening overview * WMS/WFS/WCS Shootout * Desktop comparison * Browser Client comparison * Database comparison I predict that these presentations will be by far the most popular presentations of the conference. Further, I'm expecting to incorporate results onto the LiveDVD. They will be a lot of effort to prepare, partly because they will need a team of project developers to contribute to it, and consequently, unless we get our act together soon, I suspect that no-one will submit presentations for some of the topics above. So I encourage people to respond to the following targeted email threads, noting your intention to help and be part of one of the presentation teams. (Note, the presentation will be the easy bit, the hard bit will be collating the material for the presentation). A good team for these comparison projects will consist of: * a representative from each project in the comparison. These types of comparisons will be the first place new users will go when researching software, so are well worth participating in. * users who have used more than one of the applications * anyone involved in related comparison reviews, or development of feature tables or similar * coordinator/get it done people who can pull it all together * people who can speak well, and efficiently. (You will have lots of material to present is a short time) -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com -- Geospatial Director Camptocamp SA Cédric Moullet PSE A CH-1015 Lausanne www.camptocamp.com http://www.camptocamp.com / www.mapfish.org http://www.mapfish.org / twitter.com/cedricmoullet http://twitter.com/cedricmoullet / mapfishblog.blogspot.com/ http://mapfishblog.blogspot.com/ +41 79 759 69 83 (mobile) +41 21 619 10 21 (direct) +41 21 619 10 10 (centrale) +41 21 619 10 00 (fax) ___ Discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G Technology review presentations - Web clients
Cameron, if the others are too, I would be interested in such a comparison. My main question wouls be, exactly what would we be testing? Performance (how?), functionality, ease-of-use, architecture, I still have to check my schedule, but I believe I can set aside a enough time. I will already forward this mail to the Geomajas mailing list, to check for response there. Cameron Shorter schreef: German Carillo has been building a gis web client comparison which will make a good basis for a foss4g presentation here: http://geotux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?option=com_myblogtask=viewid=239Itemid=59lang=en Does anyone know how to contact German so that we can thank him, and invite him to participate in a FOSS4G presentation? Who else would be available to help out with a browser comparison for the various projects? Cameron Shorter wrote: Abstracts for FOSS4G are due next Thursday 15 April 2010 and I'm hoping that we will see abstracts for: * LiveDVD lightening overview * WMS/WFS/WCS Shootout * Desktop comparison * Browser Client comparison * Database comparison I predict that these presentations will be by far the most popular presentations of the conference. Further, I'm expecting to incorporate results onto the LiveDVD. They will be a lot of effort to prepare, partly because they will need a team of project developers to contribute to it, and consequently, unless we get our act together soon, I suspect that no-one will submit presentations for some of the topics above. So I encourage people to respond to the following targeted email threads, noting your intention to help and be part of one of the presentation teams. (Note, the presentation will be the easy bit, the hard bit will be collating the material for the presentation). A good team for these comparison projects will consist of: * a representative from each project in the comparison. These types of comparisons will be the first place new users will go when researching software, so are well worth participating in. * users who have used more than one of the applications * anyone involved in related comparison reviews, or development of feature tables or similar * coordinator/get it done people who can pull it all together * people who can speak well, and efficiently. (You will have lots of material to present is a short time) -- Pieter De Graef Community Manager GeoSparc nv. http://www.geosparc.com/ Chairman of the Geomajas project http://www.geomajas.org/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
