Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Supporting Standards

2012-11-13 Thread Stefano Costa

Il 07/09/2012 02:49, Michael P. Gerlek ha scritto:

[added standards mailing list back to the distribution list]

Quoting all of item 4, to put Stefano's quote in context:

Standards specifications are made accessible to all for implementation
and deployment. Affirming standards organizations have defined
procedures to develop specifications that can be implemented under
fair terms. Given market diversity, fair terms may vary from 
royalty-free
to fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory terms (FRAND).

I'm pretty pragmatic about this stuff, so I see this as a perfectly reasonable 
position for an organization to take.


Two months have passed since this last comment by Michael. I was 
wondering if any decision has been taken about this?


It may be also useful to look at this MoU

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Source_and_Open_Standards

where no mention of FRAND is found (quite the opposite I would say).

Ciao
steko


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Supporting Standards

2012-11-13 Thread Arnie Shore
WISECRACKThe Good Lord must love standards - She made so many of
them!/WISECRACK
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Supporting Standards

2012-09-06 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
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Folks,
one item on the OGC Architecture Board meeting agenda today was to
look at this web site:
http://open-stand.org/principles/

- From my perspective the principles listed here are very much aligned
with our goals and nicely worded. So my suggestion is to support this
initiative as an organization [1]. Let's have a dialog here and if we
come to the conclusion that we want to officially endorse this submit
a motion to the board for their next meeting.

Cheers,
Arnulf

[1] http://open-stand.org/stand-with-us/

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Supporting Standards

2012-09-06 Thread Stefano Costa
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Il 06/09/2012 17:26, Seven (aka Arnulf) ha scritto:
 Folks, one item on the OGC Architecture Board meeting agenda today
 was to look at this web site: http://open-stand.org/principles/
 
 - From my perspective the principles listed here are very much
 aligned with our goals and nicely worded. So my suggestion is to
 support this initiative as an organization [1]. Let's have a dialog
 here and if we come to the conclusion that we want to officially
 endorse this submit a motion to the board for their next meeting.

I'm a bit worried by the vague wording of those principles.

More in detail, point 4 is crucial, stating that:

fair terms may vary from royalty-free to fair, reasonable, and
non-discriminatory terms (FRAND).

See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#RAND for some
background of why this is problematic for free and open source
software (our mission, I believe).

Ciao
steko
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Supporting Standards

2012-09-06 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
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Quoting all of item 4, to put Stefano's quote in context:

Standards specifications are made accessible to all for implementation
and deployment. Affirming standards organizations have defined
procedures to develop specifications that can be implemented under
fair terms. Given market diversity, fair terms may vary from 
royalty-free
to fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory terms (FRAND).

I'm pretty pragmatic about this stuff, so I see this as a perfectly reasonable 
position for an organization to take.

-mpg



On Sep 6, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Stefano Costa st...@iosa.it wrote:

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 Il 06/09/2012 17:26, Seven (aka Arnulf) ha scritto:
 Folks, one item on the OGC Architecture Board meeting agenda today
 was to look at this web site: http://open-stand.org/principles/
 
 - From my perspective the principles listed here are very much
 aligned with our goals and nicely worded. So my suggestion is to
 support this initiative as an organization [1]. Let's have a dialog
 here and if we come to the conclusion that we want to officially
 endorse this submit a motion to the board for their next meeting.
 
 I'm a bit worried by the vague wording of those principles.
 
 More in detail, point 4 is crucial, stating that:
 
fair terms may vary from royalty-free to fair, reasonable, and
non-discriminatory terms (FRAND).
 
 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#RAND for some
 background of why this is problematic for free and open source
 software (our mission, I believe).
 
 Ciao
 steko

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