Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-11-02 Thread Judit Mays
Hello Frans,

as Jody mentioned, there is deegree as well [1].

deegree WMS is fully certified by OGC, and it is the reference
implementation for WMS 1.1.1 and WMS 1.3.0 [2].

Currently, deegree is in OSGeo incubation, and we are looking forward to
solve the pending issues within the next few weeks.

Kind regards,
Judit Mays

[1] http://deegree.org
[2] http://cite.opengeospatial.org/reference


Frans Thamura schrieb:
 i just got Java Geotools as an Java API to access the geospatial server 
 based on WMS (OGC)
 Correct.
 You will find the GeoTools DataStore api lets you treat it like a
 database; and indeed lets you handle Shapefile / Web Feature Server
 and Databases in a similar fashion (with transactions and queries
 etc...).
 
 thx for the reply jody
 
 
 with this positoning, i feel that because no other than Java Geotools :)
 
 i want to reverse,
 
 which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
 OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
 those geospatial server no need modification
 
 i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa
 
 any idea all?
 



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-11-02 Thread Daniel Morissette

Jody Garnett wrote:


GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).



FYI MapServer passes all certification tests for WMS 1.1.1 and 1.3.0 and 
we plan on getting formal certification from OGC after the 5.6 release 
(in the coming weeks).


You can find more info about our ongoing certification effort and the 
status of each tested spec at:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/MapServerOGCCITECompliance

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-11-02 Thread Frans Thamura
awesome

now the geospatial s/w moving to ceritication also :0



i am looking about degree, i think it is degree from certification, hehe


Frans


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Daniel Morissette
dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote:
 Jody Garnett wrote:

 GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
 certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).


 FYI MapServer passes all certification tests for WMS 1.1.1 and 1.3.0 and we
 plan on getting formal certification from OGC after the 5.6 release (in the
 coming weeks).

 You can find more info about our ongoing certification effort and the status
 of each tested spec at:
 http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/MapServerOGCCITECompliance

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-11-02 Thread Judit Mays
Hello Frans,

even though it is an uncommon way to spell it, the software really is
called deegree, with two double-ee.

Some more details from the OSGeo SVN:
https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/flyer/project_brochure_pdfs/OSGeo_Brochures_deegree.pdf

Hope you will enjoy the software!
Kind regards,

Judit


Frans Thamura schrieb:
 awesome
 
 now the geospatial s/w moving to ceritication also :0
 
 
 
 i am looking about degree, i think it is degree from certification, hehe
 
 
 Frans
 
 
 



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[OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-10-29 Thread Frans Thamura
hi all

i just got Java Geotools as an Java API to access the geospatial
server based on WMS (OGC)

any one have experience with this kind of things?

i just want to treat the server as database.

so all geospatial server is database, this API is look like ODBC or JDBC


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-10-29 Thread Frans Thamura
 i just got Java Geotools as an Java API to access the geospatial server 
 based on WMS (OGC)

 Correct.
 You will find the GeoTools DataStore api lets you treat it like a
 database; and indeed lets you handle Shapefile / Web Feature Server
 and Databases in a similar fashion (with transactions and queries
 etc...).

thx for the reply jody


with this positoning, i feel that because no other than Java Geotools :)

i want to reverse,

which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
those geospatial server no need modification

i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa

any idea all?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-10-29 Thread Frans Thamura

 If you were really keen you could write a JDBC bridge to the
 GeoTools DataStore API; it would be a great contribution (and hurt
 everyones brain).

still dont get how the SELECT * FROM city will retun city map

map.google.com have a searching feature..

NB: i am still learning to connect those geospatial server using
geotools, still seeking the certification or something that certified
that all those popular server is compliance..

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-10-29 Thread Jody Garnett
 i want to reverse,

 which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
 OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
 those geospatial server no need modification

Certification costs money :-)  You also mentioned WMS again - and for
your use case you need Web Feature Server.

GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).

 i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa
 any idea all?

I have worked well with MapGuide, MapServer and GeoServer (and deegree
which you did not mention). You are encouraged to ask other users for
their experience. I alway have trouble with MapServer WFS; due to
configuration - not due to the application.

Regards,
Jody
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-10-29 Thread Brian Russo
Playing a bit of devil's advocate but (broadly speaking) if you want
your app to be interchangeable with different implementations of
(nontrivial) standards you always need to test interoperability anyway
because even in (unattainable) perfectly bug-free software there is
always some variance due to interpretation of the standard. In other
words, there is usually some ambiguity/grey area in the standards.

Not to knock on certification, but its not a silver bullet. Bottom
line is testing is needed if interoperability is a mission
requirement.

On 10/29/09, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote:
 i want to reverse,

 which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
 OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
 those geospatial server no need modification

 Certification costs money :-)  You also mentioned WMS again - and for
 your use case you need Web Feature Server.

 GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
 certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).

 i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa
 any idea all?

 I have worked well with MapGuide, MapServer and GeoServer (and deegree
 which you did not mention). You are encouraged to ask other users for
 their experience. I alway have trouble with MapServer WFS; due to
 configuration - not due to the application.

 Regards,
 Jody
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Best API for accessing map/geospatial server

2009-10-29 Thread Jody Garnett
To help in this you can now obtain the cite tests yourself; which
are used to test applications prior to being certified; so at least in
this case you can actually know what certification means.

Jody

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Brian Russo br...@beruna.org wrote:
 Playing a bit of devil's advocate but (broadly speaking) if you want
 your app to be interchangeable with different implementations of
 (nontrivial) standards you always need to test interoperability anyway
 because even in (unattainable) perfectly bug-free software there is
 always some variance due to interpretation of the standard. In other
 words, there is usually some ambiguity/grey area in the standards.

 Not to knock on certification, but its not a silver bullet. Bottom
 line is testing is needed if interoperability is a mission
 requirement.

 On 10/29/09, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote:
 i want to reverse,

 which one of those map servers in the world have fully certified by
 OGC for WMS implementation, so we know, all our apps that connect to
 those geospatial server no need modification

 Certification costs money :-)  You also mentioned WMS again - and for
 your use case you need Web Feature Server.

 GeoServer is certified; MapServer works very well but had not been
 certified (perhaps OSGeo can arrange payment to be waived?).

 i can change mapguide to mapserver to geoserver and vice versa
 any idea all?

 I have worked well with MapGuide, MapServer and GeoServer (and deegree
 which you did not mention). You are encouraged to ask other users for
 their experience. I alway have trouble with MapServer WFS; due to
 configuration - not due to the application.

 Regards,
 Jody
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