[OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices
Hi Folks, The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting ideas for improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment and vote on suggestions. There is a suggestion posted for the use of open source software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular benchmarking of software ( commercial and open source) for OGC services and processing large datasets ( comments welcome!) . For those who might be interested in making suggestions or commenting on the existing suggestions, the website is: http://openinterior.ideascale.com/ Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices
Hi Folks, The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting ideas for improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment and vote on suggestions. There is a suggestion posted for the use of open source software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular benchmarking of software ( commercial and open source) for OGC services and processing large datasets ( comments welcome!) . Doug, thank you for this information. One minor clarification on terminology (I will never tire): Using the wording commercial and open source to differentiate proprietary form free/open license models is misguiding as all Open Source software can also be used in commercial contexts and is thus also commercial software. This has recently been clarified by the US Department of Defense available in a document [1], attachment 2 on page 5, §2 a): In almost all cases, OSS meets the definition of “commercial computer software” and shall be given appropriate statutory preference in accordance with 10 USC 2377 (reference (b)) (see also FAR 2.101(b), 12.000, 12.101 (reference (c)); and DFARS 212.212, and 252.227-7014(a)(1) (reference (d))). (I love to cite those guys, they manage to make everything look dead serious :-) The correct term to differentiate free and open source license models from proprietary license is models is proprietary, and nothing but. Best regards, Arnulf. [1] http://cio-nii.defense.gov/sites/oss/2009OSS.pdf For those who might be interested in making suggestions or commenting on the existing suggestions, the website is: http://openinterior.ideascale.com/ Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- President OSGeo http://www.osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices
Arnulf, Mind if I copy/paste your comments below into the comments section for that entry ? Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats. Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) arn...@osgeo.org To OSGeo Discussions Sent by: discuss@lists.osgeo.org discuss-boun...@l cc ists.osgeo.org Subject Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department 03/10/2010 09:34 of Interior soliciting Ideas on AMimproving business practices Please respond to arn...@osgeo.org; Please respond to OSGeo Discussions disc...@lists.os geo.org Hi Folks, The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting ideas for improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment and vote on suggestions. There is a suggestion posted for the use of open source software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular benchmarking of software ( commercial and open source) for OGC services and processing large datasets ( comments welcome!) . Doug, thank you for this information. One minor clarification on terminology (I will never tire): Using the wording commercial and open source to differentiate proprietary form free/open license models is misguiding as all Open Source software can also be used in commercial contexts and is thus also commercial software. This has recently been clarified by the US Department of Defense available in a document [1], attachment 2 on page 5, §2 a): In almost all cases, OSS meets the definition of “commercial computer software” and shall be given appropriate statutory preference in accordance with 10 USC 2377 (reference (b)) (see also FAR 2.101(b), 12.000, 12.101 (reference (c)); and DFARS 212.212, and 252.227-7014(a)(1) (reference (d))). (I love to cite those guys, they manage to make everything look dead serious :-) The correct term to differentiate free and open source license models from proprietary license is models is proprietary, and nothing but. Best regards, Arnulf. [1] http://cio-nii.defense.gov/sites/oss/2009OSS.pdf For those who might be interested in making suggestions or commenting on the existing suggestions, the website is: http://openinterior.ideascale.com/ Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- President OSGeo http://www.osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss inline: graycol.gifinline: pic01924.gifinline: ecblank.gif___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices
I would like to reiterate that value that the US Government is placing on the IdeaScale comments. The number of comments, quality, feedback, comments, etc. are all feeding into the internal discussions on policy and acquisition. So feel free to comment directly there. Also there is the FCC site up: http://rebootfcc.uservoice.com Andrew doug_newc...@fws.gov wrote: Arnulf, Mind if I copy/paste your comments below into the comments section for that entry ? Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats. "Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)" arn...@osgeo.org "Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)" arn...@osgeo.org Sent by: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 03/10/2010 09:34 AM Please respond to arn...@osgeo.org; Please respond to OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org To "OSGeo Discussions" discuss@lists.osgeo.org cc Subject Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices Hi Folks, The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting ideas for improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment and vote on suggestions. There is a suggestion posted for the use of open source software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular benchmarking of software ( commercial and open source) for OGC services and processing large datasets ( comments welcome!) . Doug, thank you for this information. One minor clarification on terminology (I will never tire): Using the wording "commercial and open source" to differentiate proprietary form free/open license models is misguiding as all Open Source software can also be used in commercial contexts and is thus also "commercial software". This has recently been clarified by the US Department of Defense available in a document [1], attachment 2 on page 5, §2 a): "In almost all cases, OSS meets the definition of “commercial computer software” and shall be given appropriate statutory preference in accordance with 10 USC 2377 (reference (b)) (see also FAR 2.101(b), 12.000, 12.101 (reference (c)); and DFARS 212.212, and 252.227-7014(a)(1) (reference (d)))." (I love to cite those guys, they manage to make everything look dead serious :-) The correct term to differentiate free and open source license models from proprietary license is models is "proprietary", and nothing but. Best regards, Arnulf. [1] http://cio-nii.defense.gov/sites/oss/2009OSS.pdf For those who might be interested in making suggestions or commenting on the existing suggestions, the website is: http://openinterior.ideascale.com/ Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- President OSGeo http://www.osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner m: 248.982.3609 e: and...@highearthorbit.com t: @ajturner b: http://highearthorbit.com w: http://geocommons.com Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography _