[OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices

2010-03-10 Thread Doug_Newcomb

Hi Folks,
  The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting ideas for
improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment and vote
on suggestions.  There is a suggestion posted  for the use of open source
software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular benchmarking of
software ( commercial and open source)  for OGC services and processing
large datasets ( comments welcome!) .

  For those who might be interested in making suggestions or commenting
on the existing suggestions, the website is:
http://openinterior.ideascale.com/


Doug

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USFWS
Raleigh, NC
919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices

2010-03-10 Thread Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)

 Hi Folks,
   The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting ideas for
 improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment and vote
 on suggestions.  There is a suggestion posted  for the use of open source
 software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular benchmarking of
 software ( commercial and open source)  for OGC services and processing
 large datasets ( comments welcome!) .

Doug,
thank you for this information.

One minor clarification on terminology (I will never tire): Using the
wording commercial and open source to differentiate proprietary form
free/open license models is misguiding as all Open Source software can
also be used in commercial contexts and is thus also commercial
software.

This has recently been clarified by the US Department of Defense available
in a document [1], attachment 2 on page 5, §2 a):
In almost all cases, OSS meets the definition of “commercial computer
software” and shall be given appropriate statutory preference in
accordance with 10 USC 2377 (reference (b)) (see also FAR 2.101(b),
12.000, 12.101 (reference (c)); and DFARS 212.212, and 252.227-7014(a)(1)
(reference (d))).

(I love to cite those guys, they manage to make everything look dead
serious :-)

The correct term to differentiate free and open source license models from
proprietary license is models is proprietary, and nothing but.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

[1] http://cio-nii.defense.gov/sites/oss/2009OSS.pdf

   For those who might be interested in making suggestions or
 commenting
 on the existing suggestions, the website is:
 http://openinterior.ideascale.com/


 Doug

 Doug Newcomb
 USFWS
 Raleigh, NC
 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov
 -

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 official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the
 Interior.   Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices

2010-03-10 Thread Doug_Newcomb
Arnulf,

Mind if I copy/paste your comments below into the comments section for that
entry ?
Doug

Doug Newcomb
USFWS
Raleigh, NC
919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov
-

The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the
official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the
Interior.   Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats.


   
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 Hi Folks,
   The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting ideas
for
 improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment and vote
 on suggestions.  There is a suggestion posted  for the use of open source
 software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular benchmarking of
 software ( commercial and open source)  for OGC services and processing
 large datasets ( comments welcome!) .

Doug,
thank you for this information.

One minor clarification on terminology (I will never tire): Using the
wording commercial and open source to differentiate proprietary form
free/open license models is misguiding as all Open Source software can
also be used in commercial contexts and is thus also commercial
software.

This has recently been clarified by the US Department of Defense available
in a document [1], attachment 2 on page 5, §2 a):
In almost all cases, OSS meets the definition of “commercial computer
software” and shall be given appropriate statutory preference in
accordance with 10 USC 2377 (reference (b)) (see also FAR 2.101(b),
12.000, 12.101 (reference (c)); and DFARS 212.212, and 252.227-7014(a)(1)
(reference (d))).

(I love to cite those guys, they manage to make everything look dead
serious :-)

The correct term to differentiate free and open source license models from
proprietary license is models is proprietary, and nothing but.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

[1] http://cio-nii.defense.gov/sites/oss/2009OSS.pdf

   For those who might be interested in making suggestions or
 commenting
 on the existing suggestions, the website is:
 http://openinterior.ideascale.com/


 Doug

 Doug Newcomb
 USFWS
 Raleigh, NC
 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices

2010-03-10 Thread Andrew Turner




I would like to reiterate that value that the US Government is placing
on the IdeaScale comments. The number of comments, quality, feedback,
comments, etc. are all feeding into the internal discussions on policy
and acquisition. So feel free to comment directly there.

Also there is the FCC site up: http://rebootfcc.uservoice.com

Andrew

doug_newc...@fws.gov wrote:

  Arnulf,
  
Mind if I copy/paste your comments below into the comments section for
that entry ?
Doug
  
Doug Newcomb 
USFWS
Raleigh, NC
919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov
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The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the
official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the
Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats.
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arn...@osgeo.org
  
  
  

  


  

  
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 Hi Folks,
       The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting
ideas for
 improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment
and vote
 on suggestions.  There is a suggestion posted  for the use of open
source
 software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular
benchmarking of
 software ( commercial and open source)  for OGC services and
processing
 large datasets ( comments welcome!) .
  
Doug,
thank you for this information.
  
One minor clarification on terminology (I will never tire): Using the
wording "commercial and open source" to differentiate proprietary form
free/open license models is misguiding as all Open Source software can
also be used in commercial contexts and is thus also "commercial
software".
  
This has recently been clarified by the US Department of Defense
available
in a document [1], attachment 2 on page 5, §2 a):
"In almost all cases, OSS meets the definition of “commercial computer
software” and shall be given appropriate statutory preference in
accordance with 10 USC 2377 (reference (b)) (see also FAR 2.101(b),
12.000, 12.101 (reference (c)); and DFARS 212.212, and
252.227-7014(a)(1)
(reference (d)))."
  
(I love to cite those guys, they manage to make everything look dead
serious :-)
  
The correct term to differentiate free and open source license models
from
proprietary license is models is "proprietary", and nothing but.
  
Best regards,
Arnulf.
  
[1] http://cio-nii.defense.gov/sites/oss/2009OSS.pdf
  
       For those who might be interested in making suggestions or
 commenting
 on the existing suggestions, the website is:
 http://openinterior.ideascale.com/


 Doug

 Doug Newcomb
 USFWS
 Raleigh, NC
 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov

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 official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of
the
 Interior.   Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data
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