Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest - Reply to Mike Saunt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jody, well said, I agree. But we may want to improve / enhance this message some more because it is one of the key aspects of Open Source. You want it? We want provide to provide it. What do we need? A well defined scope of the problem (outcome of a plug-fest). To get there we ideally want a concise user story (plan what plugs to test in the fest). Then we need a commitment to get the funding to implement it. As a result you get the feature you need in forseeable time - as Open Source and for all to share. For us Open Sourceres this is obvious but for many used to proprietary software thinking this is not obvious at all. Therfore... /me is preaching to the converted crowd here, sorry about that. :-) Cheers, Arnulf On 10/09/2013 01:14 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: My point was more that a negative result is a positive opportunity to fund our open source projects :D -- Jody Garnett On 09/10/2013, at 8:12 PM, Ian Edwards iedwards@gmail.com mailto:iedwards@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jody, all Take a look at the Iris project on OSGeo live for powerful NetCDF handling http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/iris_overview.html The OSGeo Live 7.0 version of the NetCDF4 python library dependency is broken, but can be easily fixed with... pip install -I netCDF4==1.0.4 Ian On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote: For the Sydney Climate Change Interoperability Plugfest we had a different kind of response. Much of the climate change data was provided in NetCDF format which most of those participating were unable to deal with. This kind of response highlighted an opportunity for funding. -- Jody Garnett On 01/10/2013, at 6:36 AM, Peter Cotroneo peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk mailto:peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk wrote: Hi, I'd like to address Mike Saunt's concerns about the negative backlash if software doesn't have a positive outcome during the UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest. It’s a valid concern indeed, but the general philosophy of the plugfest is that there should be no negative outcome. If issues are uncovered during sprint 1, then vendors have time to either fix them or to indicate how they will resolve them in the future through their road maps. I believe the latter will be seen as quite positive in the GI industry. Peter This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss - -- Arnulf Christl http://metaspatial.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlJWmkEACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b2LlQCfdU3TX2erjVk5TA7jAapFhuXC USAAmQEG1vwAHYRnNFtKcwkwycUTquIQ =m8Hg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest - Reply to Mike Saunt
Hi Jody, all Take a look at the Iris project on OSGeo live for powerful NetCDF handling http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/iris_overview.html The OSGeo Live 7.0 version of the NetCDF4 python library dependency is broken, but can be easily fixed with... pip install -I netCDF4==1.0.4 Ian On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.comwrote: For the Sydney Climate Change Interoperability Plugfest we had a different kind of response. Much of the climate change data was provided in NetCDF format which most of those participating were unable to deal with. This kind of response highlighted an opportunity for funding. -- Jody Garnett On 01/10/2013, at 6:36 AM, Peter Cotroneo peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk wrote: Hi, I'd like to address Mike Saunt's concerns about the negative backlash if software doesn't have a positive outcome during the UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest. It’s a valid concern indeed, but the general philosophy of the plugfest is that there should be no negative outcome. If issues are uncovered during sprint 1, then vendors have time to either fix them or to indicate how they will resolve them in the future through their road maps. I believe the latter will be seen as quite positive in the GI industry. Peter This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest - Reply to Mike Saunt
My point was more that a negative result is a positive opportunity to fund our open source projects :D -- Jody Garnett On 09/10/2013, at 8:12 PM, Ian Edwards iedwards@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jody, all Take a look at the Iris project on OSGeo live for powerful NetCDF handling http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/iris_overview.html The OSGeo Live 7.0 version of the NetCDF4 python library dependency is broken, but can be easily fixed with... pip install -I netCDF4==1.0.4 Ian On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote: For the Sydney Climate Change Interoperability Plugfest we had a different kind of response. Much of the climate change data was provided in NetCDF format which most of those participating were unable to deal with. This kind of response highlighted an opportunity for funding. -- Jody Garnett On 01/10/2013, at 6:36 AM, Peter Cotroneo peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk wrote: Hi, I'd like to address Mike Saunt's concerns about the negative backlash if software doesn't have a positive outcome during the UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest. It’s a valid concern indeed, but the general philosophy of the plugfest is that there should be no negative outcome. If issues are uncovered during sprint 1, then vendors have time to either fix them or to indicate how they will resolve them in the future through their road maps. I believe the latter will be seen as quite positive in the GI industry. Peter This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest - Reply to Mike Saunt
For the Sydney Climate Change Interoperability Plugfest we had a different kind of response. Much of the climate change data was provided in NetCDF format which most of those participating were unable to deal with. This kind of response highlighted an opportunity for funding. -- Jody Garnett On 01/10/2013, at 6:36 AM, Peter Cotroneo peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk wrote: Hi, I'd like to address Mike Saunt's concerns about the negative backlash if software doesn't have a positive outcome during the UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest. It’s a valid concern indeed, but the general philosophy of the plugfest is that there should be no negative outcome. If issues are uncovered during sprint 1, then vendors have time to either fix them or to indicate how they will resolve them in the future through their road maps. I believe the latter will be seen as quite positive in the GI industry. Peter This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest - Reply to Mike Saunt
Hi, I'd like to address Mike Saunt's concerns about the negative backlash if software doesn't have a positive outcome during the UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest. It’s a valid concern indeed, but the general philosophy of the plugfest is that there should be no negative outcome. If issues are uncovered during sprint 1, then vendors have time to either fix them or to indicate how they will resolve them in the future through their road maps. I believe the latter will be seen as quite positive in the GI industry. Peter This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest
Daniel, Arnulf et all Astun have been in contact with the Ordnance Survey regarding this and would like to participate. I'm still trying to understand the outcomes from a business perspective i.e. will there be negative backlash if software doesn't have a positive outcome. We have a possible issue with timing but we should be able work though this. My thoughts at present are that the following software would be looked at by Astun (which are core to our services): - MapServer (vanilla - MapCache potentially could if people felt the need) - GeoServer (vanilla) - OGR (via Loader!) - QGIS (Client only) Interestingly, I think the latter 3 are all used by OS so I'll be interested to understand their view on the 'compliance' of those. I'll try to keep you all posted on this - if any other UK OSGeo users / companies (or elsewhere in the world) would like to be involved I'm happy to try to coordinate where possible - unless someone else wishes to... Thanks Mike On 27 September 2013 22:48, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.comwrote: I agree that it would be great if OSGeo would participate. The best would be to have a champion, ideally based in UK, to coordinate OSGeo's involvement and be the liaison between the organizers and the rest of the OSGeo community. Any volunteer? Daniel On 13-09-26 9:17 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote: Folks, I very much support this activity and believe that it would be quite beneficial to participate. Ordnance Survey is a powerful multiplier in the UK geospatial business due to its position as the main data provider to the public. There is a license program in place called PSMA (Public Sector Mapping Agreement) entitling all public sector broad access to OS data. Not Bene - this is a lot more than what is published through the Open Data program licensed under the Open Government License. I think it is important to understand what data is available and also what can be done with the service offering of Ordnance Survey. The plugfest will additionally allow you to interoperate with other software you typically encounter in the area. Cheers, Arnulf PS: I am not working for or paid by Ordnance Survey or OGC and nobody made me say ony of this, it is just my own little gut feeling. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Peter Cotroneo Peter.Cotroneo@**ordnancesurvey.co.ukpeter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk wrote: Hi, I'm leading a joint Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) and Ordnance Survyey interoperability plugfest to test OGC standards in the UK geospatial community. So far, there has been a lot of interest from commercial vendors in the UK, and I would very much like that the open source community be represented at the plugfest as well. The plugfest will be held at Ordnance Survey headquarters in Southampton, UK. There will be two sprints, one on the 17th of October and the other on the 9th of December. There will also be a results presentation on the 10th of December. The following link gives more information about the plugfest, including a call for participation document. http://www.opengeospatial.org/**node/1892http://www.opengeospatial.org/node/1892 The deadline to participate is the 2nd of October. I hope that OSGeo can join us! Cheers, Peter Peter Cotroneo CGeog (GIS) FRGS Senior Manager - Geospatial Web Services Products Innovation Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 OAS www.ordnancesurvey.co.ukhttps**://webmail.ordsvy.gov.uk/owa/** UrlBlockedError.aspxhttps://webmail.ordsvy.gov.uk/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx | peter.cotroneo@ordnancesurvey.**co.ukpeter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk mailto:peter.cotroneo@**ordnancesurvey.co.ukpeter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this email. This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.**uk http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk __**_ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discusshttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 __**_ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest
I agree that it would be great if OSGeo would participate. The best would be to have a champion, ideally based in UK, to coordinate OSGeo's involvement and be the liaison between the organizers and the rest of the OSGeo community. Any volunteer? Daniel On 13-09-26 9:17 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote: Folks, I very much support this activity and believe that it would be quite beneficial to participate. Ordnance Survey is a powerful multiplier in the UK geospatial business due to its position as the main data provider to the public. There is a license program in place called PSMA (Public Sector Mapping Agreement) entitling all public sector broad access to OS data. Not Bene - this is a lot more than what is published through the Open Data program licensed under the Open Government License. I think it is important to understand what data is available and also what can be done with the service offering of Ordnance Survey. The plugfest will additionally allow you to interoperate with other software you typically encounter in the area. Cheers, Arnulf PS: I am not working for or paid by Ordnance Survey or OGC and nobody made me say ony of this, it is just my own little gut feeling. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Peter Cotroneo peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk wrote: Hi, I'm leading a joint Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) and Ordnance Survyey interoperability plugfest to test OGC standards in the UK geospatial community. So far, there has been a lot of interest from commercial vendors in the UK, and I would very much like that the open source community be represented at the plugfest as well. The plugfest will be held at Ordnance Survey headquarters in Southampton, UK. There will be two sprints, one on the 17th of October and the other on the 9th of December. There will also be a results presentation on the 10th of December. The following link gives more information about the plugfest, including a call for participation document. http://www.opengeospatial.org/node/1892 The deadline to participate is the 2nd of October. I hope that OSGeo can join us! Cheers, Peter Peter Cotroneo CGeog (GIS) FRGS Senior Manager - Geospatial Web Services Products Innovation Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 OAS www.ordnancesurvey.co.ukhttps://webmail.ordsvy.gov.uk/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx | peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.ukmailto:peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this email. This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest
Hi, I'm leading a joint Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) and Ordnance Survyey interoperability plugfest to test OGC standards in the UK geospatial community. So far, there has been a lot of interest from commercial vendors in the UK, and I would very much like that the open source community be represented at the plugfest as well. The plugfest will be held at Ordnance Survey headquarters in Southampton, UK. There will be two sprints, one on the 17th of October and the other on the 9th of December. There will also be a results presentation on the 10th of December. The following link gives more information about the plugfest, including a call for participation document. http://www.opengeospatial.org/node/1892 The deadline to participate is the 2nd of October. I hope that OSGeo can join us! Cheers, Peter Peter Cotroneo CGeog (GIS) FRGS Senior Manager - Geospatial Web Services Products Innovation Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 OAS www.ordnancesurvey.co.ukhttps://webmail.ordsvy.gov.uk/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx | peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.ukmailto:peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this email. This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UK Interoperability Assessment Plugfest
Folks, I very much support this activity and believe that it would be quite beneficial to participate. Ordnance Survey is a powerful multiplier in the UK geospatial business due to its position as the main data provider to the public. There is a license program in place called PSMA (Public Sector Mapping Agreement) entitling all public sector broad access to OS data. Not Bene - this is a lot more than what is published through the Open Data program licensed under the Open Government License. I think it is important to understand what data is available and also what can be done with the service offering of Ordnance Survey. The plugfest will additionally allow you to interoperate with other software you typically encounter in the area. Cheers, Arnulf PS: I am not working for or paid by Ordnance Survey or OGC and nobody made me say ony of this, it is just my own little gut feeling. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Peter Cotroneo peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk wrote: Hi, I'm leading a joint Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) and Ordnance Survyey interoperability plugfest to test OGC standards in the UK geospatial community. So far, there has been a lot of interest from commercial vendors in the UK, and I would very much like that the open source community be represented at the plugfest as well. The plugfest will be held at Ordnance Survey headquarters in Southampton, UK. There will be two sprints, one on the 17th of October and the other on the 9th of December. There will also be a results presentation on the 10th of December. The following link gives more information about the plugfest, including a call for participation document. http://www.opengeospatial.org/node/1892 The deadline to participate is the 2nd of October. I hope that OSGeo can join us! Cheers, Peter Peter Cotroneo CGeog (GIS) FRGS Senior Manager - Geospatial Web Services Products Innovation Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 OAS www.ordnancesurvey.co.ukhttps://webmail.ordsvy.gov.uk/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx | peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.ukmailto:peter.cotro...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this email. This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, distributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the right to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. Thank you for your cooperation. Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 08456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Making sense with your spatial data http://www.metaspatial.net http://arnulf.us ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
