Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-19 Thread Jody Garnett
Charter members are able to join the conference committee right? I would invite 
those interested in helping with this decision to join the committee.

A vote that is not backed by effort does not reach very far.
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On Tuesday, 19 June 2012 at 4:14 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:

 Maybe this is off-topic for the subject, but, here's a thought: I
 propose to let OSGeo Charter members vote for the location of the annual
 FOSS4G event.
 
 Background points:
 
 - OSGeo Charter members deserve more say in the organization, this vote
 will give them more control
 
 - I initially created the OSGeo Conference committee years ago, it is
 made up of many past organizers from different areas of the globe, but
 really only contains less than 15 people
 
 - the OSGeo Conference Committee would still be overlooking the process,
 but the final vote will go to the OSGeo Charter members
 
 What do you all think?
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-19 Thread Jeroen Ticheler
Ah, how come I always had the impression it was for old conference organizers 
only... Funny how such idea just sticks in ones head. But I guess you have a 
point here. I'm considering joining if there's a need for new people?
Cheers,
Jeroen

Op 19 jun. 2012 om 15:21 heeft Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com het 
volgende geschreven:

 Charter members are able to join the conference committee right? I would 
 invite those interested in helping with this decision to join the committee.
 
 A vote that is not backed by effort does not reach very far.
 -- 
 Jody Garnett
 
 On Tuesday, 19 June 2012 at 4:14 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
 
 Maybe this is off-topic for the subject, but, here's a thought: I
 propose to let OSGeo Charter members vote for the location of the annual
 FOSS4G event.
 
 Background points:
 
 - OSGeo Charter members deserve more say in the organization, this vote
 will give them more control
 
 - I initially created the OSGeo Conference committee years ago, it is
 made up of many past organizers from different areas of the globe, but
 really only contains less than 15 people
 
 - the OSGeo Conference Committee would still be overlooking the process,
 but the final vote will go to the OSGeo Charter members
 
 What do you all think?
 
 -jeff
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-18 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 16/06/2012 22:58, Angelos Tzotsos ha scritto:
 I totally agree with Stefano and Maria.
 We should try to join forces and learn from each other.
 Especially smaller groups like the Greek Chapter can benefit a lot in 
 experience and
 promotion through such procedures and grow faster.

Hi all.
In Italy we have a long history of successful meetings; we (the GFOSS community 
at
large) started with GRASS meetings, and in the last 4 years we (the GFOSS.it
association) have also added (at 6 months interval) a GFOSS Days meeting. The 
two
have different aims, the first more academic, the second more targeted towards 
Public
Administration and business, even though many key people attend both.
My suggestion for a Mediterranean (or whatever) meeting: focus clearly on a 
target,
do not try to catch everybody: business meeting should be organized 
differently
form, say developer ones.
If you think we can be of help,just ask.
All the best.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-18 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Hi,

not sure, if this proposal is the best for the scope of FOSS4G.

As I already wrote in one of previous mails, we have to try to find the
balance between global, semi-regional (approx. continent level) and
regional (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, ...) events.

Another working (not sure, if better) model could be:

* Global event as it is - every year
* Semi-Regional events (NA, E, Asia, ...) - every year too, of course
not on the continent, where the global event is going be organized
* Regional events (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, Geoinformatics, ...) every year but
in e.g. spring

Having global event every second year means implies, that OSGeo meeting
will take place only every second year? And what about people, who would
like to meet other people, but for some reason (usually financial) are
not able to travel to other part of the world?

Any opinion to this?

Jachym

Dne 16.6.2012 13:42, Maria Brovelli napsal(a):
 +1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting. Anyway
 I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a Mediterranean
 conference
 Maria
 
 2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr
 
 Dear all,

 I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America
 FOSS4G conference.
 Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any
 possible way to those who preceded me.

 The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account
 the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the
 central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional
 Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an
 international and regional conferences.

 Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the
 international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even
 years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences.
 Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more difficult
 and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in a year I
 feel that this is an acceptable compromise.
 So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all of
 you to argue in favor :) or against!

 One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest that
 we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is agreement
 also integrating in it the Central-Eastern Europe event) starting from
 2014. I volunteer Greece to host the first such event (OK, given that
 things in Greece will not turn out too bad :)).
 If there is an initial agreement we can organize things a bit more.

 Thanks for the consideration of both proposals,

 Dimitris Kotzinos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-18 Thread Jeff McKenna
On 12-06-18 10:50 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
 Volker, I see your point - you are not writing it for the first
 time.
 
 Truth is, there was strong request for FOSS4G-E during CEE event.
 Do you want to prohibit it? I would better support it. Certainly it
 means loss for the global FOSS4G. Does it mean win for OSGeo? I
 think so. We just have to talk about the proper model.
 
 Jachym

Hello Jachym, Volker, Bart, Nick, Maria, Helena and all my FOSS4G
friends around the world.

I have been very quiet since FOSS4G Denver, stepping back from
FOSS4G/conferences because of some concerns about my leadership
relayed to me from the OSGeo Board.

But my FOSS4G passion and energy has never been so strong.  It will
never go away :)

I am watching the 'regional' events popping up all around the world in
fascination and awe; this is really what we have always wanted, to
spread the good FOSS4G word, whether it is through a large event or a
small one, an official event or 10 people meeting once a month in a
pub to discuss FOSS.

I admit: at first I was hesitant and was against these regional events
because I was worried it would impact the annual event; but, I realize
now that there is nothing we can do if people want to get together in
their own areas, so let's support it!  We can't stop these regional
events, nor should we.  They're great, allowing local groups to get
together with a focus on FOSS4G in their area.

Yes, the annual FOSS4G event may dilute a bit, but the word will
spread to a wider audience through local/regional events.  I still
want the annual event to happen each year, to rotate around different
regions, and I am ok if that event only draws a few hundred local
enthusiasts.

I miss you all dearly, and I would jump at the chance to help lead
FOSS4G, helping all regional and the annual events grow.

Your passionate friend,

-jeff


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-18 Thread nicolas bozon
Hi all,

Many good points from Jachym, Volker, Bart and Jeff i fully agree here.

According to me, 2012 was the first year FOSS4G was really splitted in such
a way. 4 events, in 3 continents (including the FOSS4G-South-East-Asia
recently announced in Malaysia http://foss4g-sea.org/)
But i think this is very good. Of course we must keep the annual event as
best as the board and community can, with international sponsoring and
attendance.

But as Jeff just said, even if regional events may make the global event
kind of smaller (not even sure!), the OSGeo mission would be spread much
wider, in all continents, nations and tribes, with more regional and 'semi
regional' events popping around.

As there are many local chapters, and that some are sharing the same
languages, others don't, even neighbors, i'm fully supporting the idea of
having both global, regional and let's say 'sub-regional' events at the
same year, or according to a well organized turn over, year by year (odd
and even could be a good base a proposed before here).

I also could notice that depending on the regional event, the conference
may be more academic or more business oriented. May be due to foss4g
traditions or customs according to the organizing local chapters. In any
case, both global, regional and sub-regional would promote OSGeo and may
encourage the formation of new local chapters in countries where OSGeo is
not yet represented.

About FOSS4G-Europe, i fully agree that it must be reconducted and it will
for sure, and as Jachym suggested it should probably happens in a different
country each year, and of course not in the same as global event, at least
for the global Europe years.

About the Meditearranean event we were speaking, initiated by the italian
chapter discuss list, i'm imagining it as a sub regional event.
As said before, and underlined by Stefano, it won't be a european event
only, as people from north africa and middle-east may be interested to join
too. All around that good sea.
That could also be a great occasion for southern european OSGeo people to
meet too.

My 0.002 €

Best,

Nick



2012/6/18 Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com

 On 12-06-18 10:50 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
  Volker, I see your point - you are not writing it for the first
  time.
 
  Truth is, there was strong request for FOSS4G-E during CEE event.
  Do you want to prohibit it? I would better support it. Certainly it
  means loss for the global FOSS4G. Does it mean win for OSGeo? I
  think so. We just have to talk about the proper model.
 
  Jachym

 Hello Jachym, Volker, Bart, Nick, Maria, Helena and all my FOSS4G
 friends around the world.

 I have been very quiet since FOSS4G Denver, stepping back from
 FOSS4G/conferences because of some concerns about my leadership
 relayed to me from the OSGeo Board.

 But my FOSS4G passion and energy has never been so strong.  It will
 never go away :)

 I am watching the 'regional' events popping up all around the world in
 fascination and awe; this is really what we have always wanted, to
 spread the good FOSS4G word, whether it is through a large event or a
 small one, an official event or 10 people meeting once a month in a
 pub to discuss FOSS.

 I admit: at first I was hesitant and was against these regional events
 because I was worried it would impact the annual event; but, I realize
 now that there is nothing we can do if people want to get together in
 their own areas, so let's support it!  We can't stop these regional
 events, nor should we.  They're great, allowing local groups to get
 together with a focus on FOSS4G in their area.

 Yes, the annual FOSS4G event may dilute a bit, but the word will
 spread to a wider audience through local/regional events.  I still
 want the annual event to happen each year, to rotate around different
 regions, and I am ok if that event only draws a few hundred local
 enthusiasts.

 I miss you all dearly, and I would jump at the chance to help lead
 FOSS4G, helping all regional and the annual events grow.

 Your passionate friend,

 -jeff


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-18 Thread Free
Hello,

Le lundi 18 juin 2012 16:40:37 nicolas bozon a écrit :
 About the Meditearranean event we were speaking, initiated by the italian
 chapter discuss list, i'm imagining it as a sub regional event. As said
 before, and underlined by Stefano, it won't be a european event only, as
 people from north africa and middle-east may be interested to join too. All
 around that good sea. That could also be a great occasion for southern
 european OSGeo people to meet too.

This could be interesting to mix some countries in two differents Local FOSS4G 
(like italy and France in FOSS4G-CEE and FOSS4G-med). This way ideas, 
projects, etc. will spread much better.

A kind of FOSS4G intersection :)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-18 Thread Jeff McKenna
Maybe this is off-topic for the subject, but, here's a thought: I
propose to let OSGeo Charter members vote for the location of the annual
FOSS4G event.

Background points:

- OSGeo Charter members deserve more say in the organization, this vote
will give them more control

- I initially created the OSGeo Conference committee years ago, it is
made up of many past organizers from different areas of the globe, but
really only contains less than 15 people

- the OSGeo Conference Committee would still be overlooking the process,
but the final vote will go to the OSGeo Charter members

What do you all think?

-jeff









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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-18 Thread nicolas bozon
Jeff,

+1 for the Chater members to vote on both the annual conference location
and also about yearly new OSGeo advocates, supposed to go to other  geo
conferences and represent the Foundation.
What a perspicacious point of view !
You've been away for a while, but for sure not stopped thinking [?]

Thanks

Nick



2012/6/18 Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com

 Maybe this is off-topic for the subject, but, here's a thought: I
 propose to let OSGeo Charter members vote for the location of the annual
 FOSS4G event.

 Background points:

 - OSGeo Charter members deserve more say in the organization, this vote
 will give them more control

 - I initially created the OSGeo Conference committee years ago, it is
 made up of many past organizers from different areas of the globe, but
 really only contains less than 15 people

 - the OSGeo Conference Committee would still be overlooking the process,
 but the final vote will go to the OSGeo Charter members

 What do you all think?

 -jeff









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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-16 Thread Maria Brovelli
+1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting. Anyway
I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a Mediterranean
conference
Maria

2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr

 Dear all,

 I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America
 FOSS4G conference.
 Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any
 possible way to those who preceded me.

 The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account
 the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the
 central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional
 Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an
 international and regional conferences.

 Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the
 international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even
 years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences.
 Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more difficult
 and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in a year I
 feel that this is an acceptable compromise.
 So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all of
 you to argue in favor :) or against!

 One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest that
 we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is agreement
 also integrating in it the Central-Eastern Europe event) starting from
 2014. I volunteer Greece to host the first such event (OK, given that
 things in Greece will not turn out too bad :)).
 If there is an initial agreement we can organize things a bit more.

 Thanks for the consideration of both proposals,

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-16 Thread nicolas bozon
What a good idea Maria !
Such a Mediterannean regional event could may be gather italin, greek,
spanish and french local chapters, and may be others.
Very good idea.

Best,

Nick




2012/6/16 Maria Brovelli brv...@gmail.com

 +1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting.
 Anyway I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a
 Mediterranean conference
 Maria


 2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr

 Dear all,

 I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America
 FOSS4G conference.
 Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any
 possible way to those who preceded me.

 The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account
 the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the
 central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional
 Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an
 international and regional conferences.

 Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the
 international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even
 years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences.
 Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more
 difficult and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in a
 year I feel that this is an acceptable compromise.
 So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all
 of you to argue in favor :) or against!

 One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest
 that we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is
 agreement also integrating in it the Central-Eastern Europe event) starting
 from 2014. I volunteer Greece to host the first such event (OK, given that
 things in Greece will not turn out too bad :)).
 If there is an initial agreement we can organize things a bit more.

 Thanks for the consideration of both proposals,

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-16 Thread Stefano Costa
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Il 16/06/2012 18:34, nicolas bozon ha scritto:
 Such a Mediterannean regional event could may be gather italin,
 greek, spanish and french local chapters, and may be others.

Actually, as most closed seas do, the Mediterranean has countries all
around it, not only on the Northern side :-)

I was raising this very idea only a few days ago on the mailing list
of GFOSS.it, the Italian OSGeo chapter (specifically referring to
Greece, because that's where I am now). There was some consensus among
members.

The point IMHO is not to gather again the same people who would meet
anyway at any international event (FOSS4G Barcelona was only in 2010,
by the way). We should try and support the creation of new chapters
where they are still missing (of course this is true globally, not
just for the Mediterranean).

my 2¢ - ciao,
steko
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-16 Thread nicolas bozon
Hello Stefano,

Sorry, i've listed only 'northern' med countries (greece is not northern i
guess ?), because i am not aware if there are local chapters at the south
or east, that's why i said 'may be others' too [?]  (OSGeo probably needs a
map of local chapters and members by the way)

I fully agree that such an event could gather regular euro osgeo folks as
well as new comers, and would be a great occasion to form new local
chapters for sure. +1
By the way, do you know if there are osgeo initiative in 'fer' East med or
Maghreb already ? Sorry for my ignorance.

Best,

Nick






2012/6/16 Stefano Costa st...@iosa.it

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 Il 16/06/2012 18:34, nicolas bozon ha scritto:
  Such a Mediterannean regional event could may be gather italin,
  greek, spanish and french local chapters, and may be others.

 Actually, as most closed seas do, the Mediterranean has countries all
 around it, not only on the Northern side :-)

 I was raising this very idea only a few days ago on the mailing list
 of GFOSS.it, the Italian OSGeo chapter (specifically referring to
 Greece, because that's where I am now). There was some consensus among
 members.

 The point IMHO is not to gather again the same people who would meet
 anyway at any international event (FOSS4G Barcelona was only in 2010,
 by the way). We should try and support the creation of new chapters
 where they are still missing (of course this is true globally, not
 just for the Mediterranean).

 my 2¢ - ciao,
 steko
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-16 Thread Angelos Tzotsos

On 06/16/2012 07:11 PM, Stefano Costa wrote:

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Il 16/06/2012 18:34, nicolas bozon ha scritto:

Such a Mediterannean regional event could may be gather italin,
greek, spanish and french local chapters, and may be others.

Actually, as most closed seas do, the Mediterranean has countries all
around it, not only on the Northern side :-)

I was raising this very idea only a few days ago on the mailing list
of GFOSS.it, the Italian OSGeo chapter (specifically referring to
Greece, because that's where I am now). There was some consensus among
members.

The point IMHO is not to gather again the same people who would meet
anyway at any international event (FOSS4G Barcelona was only in 2010,
by the way). We should try and support the creation of new chapters
where they are still missing (of course this is true globally, not
just for the Mediterranean).

my 2¢ - ciao,
steko
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Hi,

I totally agree with Stefano and Maria.
We should try to join forces and learn from each other.
Especially smaller groups like the Greek Chapter can benefit a lot in 
experience and promotion through such procedures and grow faster.


Regards,
Angelos


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[OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-15 Thread Dimitris Kotzinos

Dear all,

I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America 
FOSS4G conference.
Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any 
possible way to those who preceded me.


The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account 
the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the 
central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional 
Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an 
international and regional conferences.


Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the 
international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even 
years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences.
Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more 
difficult and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in 
a year I feel that this is an acceptable compromise.
So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all 
of you to argue in favor :) or against!


One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest 
that we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is 
agreement also integrating in it the Central-Eastern Europe event) 
starting from 2014. I volunteer Greece to host the first such event (OK, 
given that things in Greece will not turn out too bad :)).

If there is an initial agreement we can organize things a bit more.

Thanks for the consideration of both proposals,

Dimitris Kotzinos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-15 Thread Helena Mitasova
I fully support this concept,

Helena

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr wrote:
 Dear all,

 I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America
 FOSS4G conference.
 Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any
 possible way to those who preceded me.

 The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account the
 fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the central
 European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional Conference I
 feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an international and
 regional conferences.

 Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the
 international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even
 years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences.
 Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more difficult
 and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in a year I feel
 that this is an acceptable compromise.
 So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all of
 you to argue in favor :) or against!

 One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest that
 we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is agreement
 also integrating in it the Central-Eastern Europe event) starting from 2014.
 I volunteer Greece to host the first such event (OK, given that things in
 Greece will not turn out too bad :)).
 If there is an initial agreement we can organize things a bit more.

 Thanks for the consideration of both proposals,

 Dimitris Kotzinos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences

2012-06-15 Thread Nikos Alexandris
Hopefully I'll be sooner or later in place to support this in practice.

+1 for a Greek GFOSS, we can do it! The FOSS session(s) in the latest HellasGI 
conference gave me the impression that GFOSS is slowly, yet steadily, growing 
in Greece.

Kind regards, Nikos

On Friday 15 of June 2012 20:15:27 Dimitris Kotzinos wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America
 FOSS4G conference.
 Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any
 possible way to those who preceded me.
 
 The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account
 the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the
 central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional
 Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an
 international and regional conferences.
 
 Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the
 international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even
 years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences.
 Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more
 difficult and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in
 a year I feel that this is an acceptable compromise.
 So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all
 of you to argue in favor :) or against!
 
 One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest
 that we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is
 agreement also integrating in it the Central-Eastern Europe event)
 starting from 2014. I volunteer Greece to host the first such event (OK,
 given that things in Greece will not turn out too bad :)).
 If there is an initial agreement we can organize things a bit more.
 
 Thanks for the consideration of both proposals,
 
 Dimitris Kotzinos
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