Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)

2008-08-23 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Cameron Shorter wrote:
 I'd be more inclined to say Mapbuilder started in December 2003, when
 the code for the current codebase started.

Cameron,

Feel free to update the Open Source GIS History article
on the OSGeo Wiki accordingly.

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Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)

2008-08-22 Thread Mateusz Loskot

Mateusz Loskot wrote:

Rafal Wawer wrote:

Thank you Markus,
I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on time  
for me to include it in the references (-;
Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G 
projects. A roadmap of FOSS4G projects?


Rafal,

Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with focus 
on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here is a list 
of dates I've identified:


late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS)


I've found [1] exact year when MOSS was published/released - 1978
It's also confirmed on Polish GeoForum website [2]

[1] 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4606038/2004-Article-by-Carl-Reed-MOSS-A-Historical-perspective
[2] 
http://www.geoforum.pl/pages/index.php?page=GIS_chronologia2id_catalog_text=2366

http://tinyurl.com/geoforum-moss-1978

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RE: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)

2008-08-21 Thread Gavin Fleming
An excellent potted history of OSS is in Steven Weber's 'The Success of Open 
Source'

Gavin 

Are you coming to www.foss4g2008.org?
 

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Subject: Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)

Norman Vine wrote:
 Mateusz Loskot writes
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:29 PM
 
 Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit off topic?)

 George Silva wrote:
 Hello lists,

 As you can i see im mailing this message to some lists around the web 
 (im sorry if thats a problem).

 At the moment i am writing my BSc thesis (Geography) focusing the 
 development of a open source software and database for logging and 
 analysing traffic accidents in Uberlândia, MG - Brazil.

 I am dedicating a chapter in my thesis to explaining Open Source 
 Software, and OSS for GIS. i searched the web for some 
 history of OSS in 
 general, but i found too many different sources. So i come to you, 
 developers of GIS OSS, to see if you can give me references 
 of where to 
 search for the history and process regarding this theme.
 George,

 Here is number of keywords related to history of FOSS4G
 and that you may google for and find details:

 - Sol Katz
 - Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS)
 - GRASS History (http://grass.itc.it/devel/grasshist.html)
 - UMP MapServer history
 
 
 Mateusz
 
 Great credits but don't forgot http://trac.osgeo.org/proj/ or perhaps 
 
 http://members.verizon.net/~vze2hc4d/proj4/ :-)
 
 Thanks Gerry !!

Norman,

Yes, I've forgot about these two. Thanks for completing.

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Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)

2008-08-21 Thread Mateusz Loskot

Rafal Wawer wrote:

Thank you Markus,
I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on time  
for me to include it in the references (-;
Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G projects. 
A roadmap of FOSS4G projects?


Rafal,

Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with focus 
on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here is a list 
of dates I've identified:


late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS)

late 80's - US Army starts Geographic Resources Analysis Support System 
(GRASS)


1998 - GDAL initial revision in CVS

2000 - GDAL gets Python support

2000 - Atlantis Scientific starts OpenEV

2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS

2001 - OSSIM initial revision in CVS

2002 - Intevation starts Thuban projects

2002 - Quantum GIS initial revision in CVS

2002 - GEOS initial revision in CVS

2002 - MapServer gets Python support

2002 - AVPython for ArcView 3.x published as FOSS

2006 - MapBender gets first bits in CVS

Certainly, only a small part of FOSS4G projects are listed.

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Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS(bit offtopic?)

2008-08-21 Thread Rafal Wawer

Thank you very much Mateusz.
So far we are utilizing Paul Ramzsy's classification to language tribes 
and the utility groups from CASCADOSS inventory. A time dimension is a very 
nice add-on, especially that I am expecting a large growth in number of 
software projects becoming OSS4G to be visible during last years.


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Rafal Wawer wrote:

Thank you Markus,
I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on time 
for me to include it in the references (-;
Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G projects. 
A roadmap of FOSS4G projects?


Rafal,

Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with focus 
on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here is a list of 
dates I've identified:


late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS)

late 80's - US Army starts Geographic Resources Analysis Support System 
(GRASS)


1998 - GDAL initial revision in CVS

2000 - GDAL gets Python support

2000 - Atlantis Scientific starts OpenEV

2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS

2001 - OSSIM initial revision in CVS

2002 - Intevation starts Thuban projects

2002 - Quantum GIS initial revision in CVS

2002 - GEOS initial revision in CVS

2002 - MapServer gets Python support

2002 - AVPython for ArcView 3.x published as FOSS

2006 - MapBender gets first bits in CVS

Certainly, only a small part of FOSS4G projects are listed.

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Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)

2008-08-21 Thread Daniel Morissette

Mateusz Loskot wrote:


2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS



MapServer started using CVS only in 2000, but existed since around 1995.

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Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)

2008-08-21 Thread Steven M. Ottens

Hi all,

In light of the EndOfLive announcement of Mapbuilder I have done some  
research on the history of mapbuilder:


29 september 2001 Mapbuilder-devel mailinglist created
28 july 2008 End Of Life announcement

Regards
Steven

On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote:


Rafal Wawer wrote:

Thank you Markus,
I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on  
time  for me to include it in the references (-;
Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G  
projects. A roadmap of FOSS4G projects?


Rafal,

Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with  
focus on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here  
is a list of dates I've identified:


late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS)

late 80's - US Army starts Geographic Resources Analysis Support  
System (GRASS)


1998 - GDAL initial revision in CVS

2000 - GDAL gets Python support

2000 - Atlantis Scientific starts OpenEV

2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS

2001 - OSSIM initial revision in CVS

2002 - Intevation starts Thuban projects

2002 - Quantum GIS initial revision in CVS

2002 - GEOS initial revision in CVS

2002 - MapServer gets Python support

2002 - AVPython for ArcView 3.x published as FOSS

2006 - MapBender gets first bits in CVS

Certainly, only a small part of FOSS4G projects are listed.

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Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)

2008-08-21 Thread Dave McIlhagga
someone might be interested in getting this historical info into the  
wikipedia entry for OSGeo - would also provide a good way for long  
term maintenance and updating.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osgeo

Dave



On 21-Aug-08, at 11:41 AM, Steven M. Ottens wrote:


Hi all,

In light of the EndOfLive announcement of Mapbuilder I have done  
some research on the history of mapbuilder:


29 september 2001 Mapbuilder-devel mailinglist created
28 july 2008 End Of Life announcement

Regards
Steven

On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote:


Rafal Wawer wrote:

Thank you Markus,
I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on  
time  for me to include it in the references (-;
Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G  
projects. A roadmap of FOSS4G projects?


Rafal,

Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with  
focus on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here  
is a list of dates I've identified:


late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS)

late 80's - US Army starts Geographic Resources Analysis Support  
System (GRASS)


1998 - GDAL initial revision in CVS

2000 - GDAL gets Python support

2000 - Atlantis Scientific starts OpenEV

2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS

2001 - OSSIM initial revision in CVS

2002 - Intevation starts Thuban projects

2002 - Quantum GIS initial revision in CVS

2002 - GEOS initial revision in CVS

2002 - MapServer gets Python support

2002 - AVPython for ArcView 3.x published as FOSS

2006 - MapBender gets first bits in CVS

Certainly, only a small part of FOSS4G projects are listed.

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