Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com wrote: ... The board is elected by the charter members to make policy. When the system was set up, it was not the intent that charter members had any role other than to preserve the nature and mission of the foundation by electing appropriate board members. Things may evolve: A a founding member of OSGeo I was always very interested to keep the community strongly involved. This implies that with the years charter members may obtain a stronger role than just electing the board members. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction What others do: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#asf-members ... but Jody has just send around some links... Markus ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software development, management, documentation and what else In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives. Ciao steko BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they become inactive, move to another planet or are deemed unfit for the purpose by the community? __**_ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discusshttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss On 20/04/12 07:24, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function yet? I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering developing OGC ambassadors too. So I'd like to open the floor and see what people think an ambassador's role could involve, which leads into the qualities we would wish our ambassador's to have, which leads into the ways we may select an ambassador. Let me start by noting some of the driving factors: 1. Arnulf has noted that as OSGeo president, he has spent a significant amount of time on areoplanes travelling around the world to talk on behalf of OSGeo. He has
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka On 2012/05/05 21:01, Margherita Di Leo wrote: Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software development, management, documentation and what else In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives. Ciao steko BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they become inactive, move to another planet or are deemed unfit for the purpose by the community? __**_ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discusshttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss On 20/04/12 07:24, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function yet? I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering
RE: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Venka: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) -mpg From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka On 2012/05/05 21:01, Margherita Di Leo wrote: Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software development, management, documentation and what else In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives. Ciao steko BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they become inactive, move
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
As far as I’m aware, the original “Ambassador” concept came up during a board meeting, where it was intended to just address the question that the board very occasionally needs to send a board member, or someone equally prominent, to certain events we’d been invited to participate in. For purposes of discussion and assigning a budget to it, we just called it “being an ambassador”. This discussion seems to envision a wider, more general role, however. I’m very much in favor of having members act as ambassadors for the ideas of open source in the geo marketplace, but I’m not sure I understand yet the value of making this a formal function. It is already the case that members can – and do! – give talks and such all the time about open source and GIS; indeed, it is expected that active members, especially Charter Members, of the community would do so. I don’t see that OSGeo, as a formal body, should be in the position of limiting this function to certain people. Philosophically I’m against that, and practically I don’t see how we could anyway. We once brought up the idea of having a “speakers bureau”: a list of people who can speak to certain topics, much like the Service Providers Directory. Something like that I’d be in favor of… -mpg From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Margherita Di Leo Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:02 AM To: Cameron Shorter Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used
Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Michael, On 2012/05/05 23:58, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board? (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) About (2), why is it not desirable? Venka -mpg From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
I second Michael's sentiments. Use of terms such as distinguished and elite in the context of OSGeo community makes me extremely uncomfortable. On May 5, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board? Both. (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) About (2), why is it not desirable? The board is elected by the charter members to make policy. When the system was set up, it was not the intent that charter members had any role other than to preserve the nature and mission of the foundation by electing appropriate board members. Other than that, many of us did not want to create any sort of special status for members of the community: we wanted to be as open and inclusive as possible. To that end, we have a public board mailing list where issues can be raised and discussed by all, and the monthly board meetings are also held openly on #irc. -mpg -Original Message- From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 9:58 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; 'OSGeo-Board'; 'marketing' Subject: Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role Michael, On 2012/05/05 23:58, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board? (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) About (2), why is it not desirable? Venka -mpg From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka ___ Board mailing list bo...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Michael, I agree that we have expanded the Ambassador role to include what you have referred to as a Speakers bureau, which I think is a good thing. It is also opt-in; charter members need not register themselves if they don't want to. It is also deliberately non-exclusive, as any member of the greater OSGeo community should qualify as a user or developer of OSGeo Software. The board can still be exclusive in who they select to negotiate on behalf of the board. Eg: when OSGeo board wishes to send someone to negotiate a MOU or similar, they can specify that it be done by one of the more qualified Ambassadors - Eg: Board or Charter members. What we gain is a way for members to promote themselves, and a channel for conferences and the like to readily or more economically find a local OSGeo expert. On 06/05/12 01:07, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: As far as I’m aware, the original “Ambassador” concept came up during a board meeting, where it was intended to just address the question that the board very occasionally needs to send a board member, or someone equally prominent, to certain events we’d been invited to participate in. For purposes of discussion and assigning a budget to it, we just called it “being an ambassador”. This discussion seems to envision a wider, more general role, however. I’m very much in favor of having members act as ambassadors for the ideas of open source in the geo marketplace, but I’m not sure I understand yet the value of making this a formal function. It is already the case that members can – and do! – give talks and such all the time about open source and GIS; indeed, it is expected that active members, especially Charter Members, of the community would do so. I don’t see that OSGeo, as a formal body, should be in the position of limiting this function to certain people. Philosophically I’m against that, and practically I don’t see how we could anyway. We once brought up the idea of having a “speakers bureau”: a list of people who can speak to certain topics, much like the Service Providers Directory. Something like that I’d be in favor of… -mpg *From:*discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Margherita Di Leo *Sent:* Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:02 AM *To:* Cameron Shorter *Cc:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software development, management, documentation and what else In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives. Ciao steko BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they become inactive, move to another planet or are deemed unfit for the purpose by the community? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss On 20/04/12 07:24, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function yet? I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering developing OGC ambassadors too. So I'd like to open the floor and see what people think an ambassador's role could involve, which leads into the qualities we would wish our ambassador's to have, which leads into the ways we may select an ambassador. Let me start by noting some of the driving factors: 1. Arnulf has noted that as OSGeo president, he has spent a significant amount of time on areoplanes travelling around the world to talk on behalf of OSGeo. He has suggested that this role should be shared. Conference organisors, who have a primary goal of attracting attendees, look for authoritative figureheads to talk at conferences. They are expected to have a deep insight into a specific domain, such as OSGeo. They should also speak well, even better if they are entertaining. 2. OSGeo is a sexy topic has many conferences, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of conferences around the world which would like to see an OSGeo presence. 3. OSGeo is fortunate to draw membership from around the world, including boasting a number of very healthy local chapters. As such, we are likely to have potential ambassadors in most counties. (We might be a bit short in Antarctica) 4. There are times when negotiating MOUs or similar with other countries, it would be useful to
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
- in some cases, the Board might decide that it is important enough to have an Ambassador at an event that the Foundation would cover travel expenses I think it would be nice to put the shoe on the other foot - if the event decides it is important to have OSGeo at the event they could cover expenses :) More seriously the board will have more luck arranging an invite if an OSGeo representative is acting in an official capacity. I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. Jody ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software development, management, documentation and what else In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives. Ciao steko BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they become inactive, move to another planet or are deemed unfit for the purpose by the community? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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On Apr 21, 2012, at 5:47 AM, Stefano Costa st...@iosa.it wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. Some (ahem), if not most, and hopefully all, already do that. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Absolutely. Leverage the existing organization instead of creating year another layer of complication. In fact, everyone who uses OSGeo software is, can, and should act as an ambassador of the OSGeo way of doing things spatial. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.org science http://earth-base.org advocacy http://creativecommons.org___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I think it is a great idea and introducing the role for few dozens of members would increase the awareness about OSGeo globally. Naturally, the ambassadors should be well familiar with OSGeo but also have certain mandate to speak and make connections on behalf of the Foundation. On the other hand there are countless events on various geographical scales: conferences, workshops, political meetings etc., where highlighting OSGeo would be very welcome or even expected. I have this kind of meetings quite often, e.g. in 2009 during the EIONET's SEIS Task Force Meeting. I think it would be good to have an another, less dramatic role than ambassador beside - role for members who represent thematic domain (rather than geographically distributed ambassadors) and often speak on conferences etc. I'm sure we can find a nice word for it. (-; For example I am considered as expert in environmental assessments for agriculture. During usual presentations related to spatial analyses and modelling I could include OSGEO Foundation below my usual affiliation (if allowed by the employer naturally) and put 2 slides on FOSS4G and OSGeo in my presentation - it costs nothing, but obviously draws audience's attention, especially as you combine keywords: free, GIS, RS, webmapping. (-; Maybe defining roles for the huge cloud of members out there is the way to structure the planning for the future of the OSGeo. (-: Best regards: RAf DR. Rafal Wawer The Department of Soil Science Erosion Control and Land Protection The Institute of Soil Science and Plant Cultivation - State Research institute ul. Czartoryskich 8 24-100 Puławy Poland mobile: +48601516434 web: www.erozja.iung.pulawy.pl -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:24 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function yet? I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering developing OGC ambassadors too. So I'd like to open the floor and see what people think an ambassador's role could involve, which leads into the qualities we would wish our ambassador's to have, which leads into the ways we may select an ambassador. Let me start by noting some of the driving factors: 1. Arnulf has noted that as OSGeo president, he has spent a significant amount of time on areoplanes travelling around the world to talk on behalf of OSGeo. He has suggested that this role should be shared. Conference organisors, who have a primary goal of attracting attendees, look for authoritative figureheads to talk at conferences. They are expected to have a deep insight into a specific domain, such as OSGeo. They should also speak well, even better if they are entertaining. 2. OSGeo is a sexy topic has many conferences, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of conferences around the world which would like to see an OSGeo presence. 3. OSGeo is fortunate to draw membership from around the world, including boasting a number of very healthy local chapters. As such, we are likely to have potential ambassadors in most counties. (We might be a bit short in Antarctica) 4. There are times when negotiating MOUs or similar with other countries, it would be useful to have someone local speak with authority on behalf of OSGeo. 5. Note that there are conflicting interests here of wanting to open up the role for anyone who volunteers, verses maintaining a selectiveness and prestige for the role which is the key selection criteria for conferences asking for an ambassador. As such, I think it important that ambassadors can only be voted into the position, and not handed out to anyone. We already vote for a board, and charter members. I think board members should be considered ambassadors by default. Should charter members be considered ambassadors? Charter members only get this role after demonstrating a commitment to OSGeo, so will likely have a reasonable depth of OSGeo knowledge. Maybe we should ask for a history of speaking well (as demonstrated at conferences), to the ambassador criteria. Then lastly, do we wish to invite ambassadors from a greater circle? At this point, I'd probably err on saying no, as if the entry bar to becoming an ambassador is too easy, then the mystic of the role will be lost. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Marco, all, I guess it is difficult to say how many Geo Conferences are planned to be held, and also which of them are worth attending for OSGeo. However, this Google Fusion Table (GFT) provides quiete a lot of information for 2012: https://fusiontables.googleusercontent.com/fusiontables/api/query?sql=SELECT+*+FROM+2481018 Thanks to the GFT support in GDAL 1.9 (Thanks for this Frank and GDAL team by the way), and because Gerald Fenoy recently implemented a reverse geocoding support, allowing OGR to create geometries from an adress field of a GFT, i could easily create a map of these conferences this morning: http://demo.mapmint.com/public/conferences I thought it would be maybe useful to first get an overview of the 2012 Geo events. If OSGeo is going further with the idea of having ambassadors, such a map could then be used to map an updated GFT, and why not to add an Ambassador attribute to each conference. Best regards, Nick 2012/4/20 Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V. marco.lech...@fossgis.de Hi, Does anybody have an idea on how many conferences, ... we are talking about. May be this can be answered depending on continents/countries. this could help getting an idea about how many ambassadors would be needed where and how much money this could eventuallly cost. in some cases it will be necessary to have ambassadors talking in local languages (no every conference is using english) about OSGeo. Marco Lechner Am 20.04.2012 00:14, schrieb Michael P. Gerlek: Cameron, thanks for bringing this up for discussion. A couple things to note: - in some cases, the Board might decide that it is important enough to have an Ambassador at an event that the Foundation would cover travel expenses - it is unlikely that the Foundation would be able to cover the costs of the Ambassador's time, however; aside from the expense involved and trying to determine a fair uniform hourly rate, I could see that turn into a fight for who gets to go; but on the other hand, a nominal fee might help enable some of us who are self-employed or similar to fill the ambassador role - some events/functions might require the Ambassador be a Board member as well (as in the case of the email of mine which Cameron quotes) -mpg -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:24 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function yet? I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering developing OGC ambassadors too. So I'd like to open the floor and see what people think an ambassador's role could involve, which leads into the qualities we would wish our ambassador's to have, which leads into the ways we may select an ambassador. Let me start by noting some of the driving factors: 1. Arnulf has noted that as OSGeo president, he has spent a significant amount of time on areoplanes travelling around the world to talk on behalf of OSGeo. He has suggested that this role should be shared. Conference organisors, who have a primary goal of attracting attendees, look for authoritative figureheads to talk at conferences. They are expected to have a deep insight into a specific domain, such as OSGeo. They should also speak well, even better if they are entertaining. 2. OSGeo is a sexy topic has many conferences, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of conferences around the world which would like to see an OSGeo presence. 3. OSGeo is fortunate to draw membership from around the world, including boasting a number of very healthy local chapters. As such, we are likely to have potential ambassadors in most counties. (We might be a bit short in Antarctica) 4. There are times when negotiating MOUs or similar with other countries, it would be useful to have someone local speak with authority on behalf of OSGeo. 5. Note that there are conflicting interests here of wanting to open up the role for anyone who volunteers, verses maintaining a selectiveness and prestige for the role which is the key selection criteria for conferences asking for an ambassador. As such, I think it important that ambassadors can only be voted into the position, and not handed out to anyone. We already vote for a board, and charter members. I think board members should be considered ambassadors by default. Should charter members be considered ambassadors? Charter members only get this role after demonstrating a commitment to OSGeo, so will likely have a reasonable depth of OSGeo knowledge. Maybe we should ask for a
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Cameron, thanks for bringing this up for discussion. A couple things to note: - in some cases, the Board might decide that it is important enough to have an Ambassador at an event that the Foundation would cover travel expenses - it is unlikely that the Foundation would be able to cover the costs of the Ambassador's time, however; aside from the expense involved and trying to determine a fair uniform hourly rate, I could see that turn into a fight for who gets to go; but on the other hand, a nominal fee might help enable some of us who are self-employed or similar to fill the ambassador role - some events/functions might require the Ambassador be a Board member as well (as in the case of the email of mine which Cameron quotes) -mpg -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:24 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function yet? I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering developing OGC ambassadors too. So I'd like to open the floor and see what people think an ambassador's role could involve, which leads into the qualities we would wish our ambassador's to have, which leads into the ways we may select an ambassador. Let me start by noting some of the driving factors: 1. Arnulf has noted that as OSGeo president, he has spent a significant amount of time on areoplanes travelling around the world to talk on behalf of OSGeo. He has suggested that this role should be shared. Conference organisors, who have a primary goal of attracting attendees, look for authoritative figureheads to talk at conferences. They are expected to have a deep insight into a specific domain, such as OSGeo. They should also speak well, even better if they are entertaining. 2. OSGeo is a sexy topic has many conferences, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of conferences around the world which would like to see an OSGeo presence. 3. OSGeo is fortunate to draw membership from around the world, including boasting a number of very healthy local chapters. As such, we are likely to have potential ambassadors in most counties. (We might be a bit short in Antarctica) 4. There are times when negotiating MOUs or similar with other countries, it would be useful to have someone local speak with authority on behalf of OSGeo. 5. Note that there are conflicting interests here of wanting to open up the role for anyone who volunteers, verses maintaining a selectiveness and prestige for the role which is the key selection criteria for conferences asking for an ambassador. As such, I think it important that ambassadors can only be voted into the position, and not handed out to anyone. We already vote for a board, and charter members. I think board members should be considered ambassadors by default. Should charter members be considered ambassadors? Charter members only get this role after demonstrating a commitment to OSGeo, so will likely have a reasonable depth of OSGeo knowledge. Maybe we should ask for a history of speaking well (as demonstrated at conferences), to the ambassador criteria. Then lastly, do we wish to invite ambassadors from a greater circle? At this point, I'd probably err on saying no, as if the entry bar to becoming an ambassador is too easy, then the mystic of the role will be lost. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
