Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
I'm using a nokia e63, works fine accessing the handheld version of the server through wi-fi. Very quick to navigate and displays album art too. Not sure what the benefit of the Iphone is other than touch screen? -- chn68b chn68b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21902 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
It has native apps which makes it much faster. Also, the touch screen IS worth a lot. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Online radio stations strike big deal on royalties
i think that article is factually incorrect. over the air FM/AM stations are NOT exempt from royalties, (what laughable hogwash!) they DO pay them, and pay them AGAIN if they stream, albeit under different terms. one doesn't cover the other. secondly, i know of NO gov't license for interent only stations, but there may be something to that; i'm not 100% on that, but i doubt its the way the article portrayed. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.3b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65373 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
funkstar;435548 Wrote: There is also a port of SqueezePlay (the software on the Controller) being worked on for WindowsMobile devices. Keep a look to another application its Slimcontrol. And its new in the line, but i think for windows Mobile Phones somehow the best. I am in discussion with Sebastian the developer and we test it also at the moment for multi room connectivity and also over the Internet. I did support Sebastian with a Xtreamer Multimedia Player. To keep his focus also in direction of Android. As well some other Developers from the Popcorn Hour Scene are involved to help to make a first step for play and control the Xtreamer by mobile phones. -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Unlike http/icy streams, mplayer doesn't seems to decode the metadata. That said, feeding mplayer metadata back into SC is v. hard. Prior to 7.3.3 for AACplus support - I used a trick where SC stripped the transport protocol and extracted metadata for display on players and then fed the raw audio stream into mplayer to decode into PCM. I quickly tried the same approach with the ogg/flac. It didn't work as SC seems to get confused (this is not an expected setup) and wanted to play the stream directly. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Thanks for trying that! I think the best way to fully implement OggFlac with metadata would be to wait until sox will support that format. Unfortunately it doesn't at the moment. I'm listening to D-dur at the moment. And my brother is listening to my personal lossless icecast stream. What a joy! -- Quad CD = EAC = FLAC = SC 7.3.3 = SB Duet = DacMagic = Quad77 pre amp = Quad707 power amp = Quad 21L speakers Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
bpa: SC doesn't have any support for parsing an Ogg stream to extract the metadata. That's only in the firmware. Will look at firmware OggFLAC support at some point in the future. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
shake-the-disease;435547 Wrote: Yes, the iPhone is the best choice by far. For controlling, that seems to be true. But with Apple's forbidding background apps on iPhone and the combination of its conflict of interest with iTunes and iron-fisted control over what's in the App Store, it seems very unlikely that you'll be able to stream music to an iPhone. Android or Windows Mobile are much more likely to offer viable control + playback options. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Artist logic bug?
Hi, I've had a similar issue. I ended up adding a 'ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE' (http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html) to one of the artists. You can't see the difference, but SqueezeCenter does. :) Adding even more ZWNBSP's you could even have multiple artists with the same name in your library... See for yourself: http://tweakers.net/ext/f/FgYI0dhRbkAhdz1lXzeAhJuY/full.jpg I haven't had any unwanted side-effects using this method, I just hope it'll still work in newer SqueezeCenter versions. Other whitespace-characters won't do the job (SqueezeCenter just ignores a normale space, it ignores a non-breaking space in mp3-files, ...) Still, I would love to see a way to solve this without changing my tags. ;) The folowing sentence cointains a few dozen of Zero Width Non-Breaking Spaces. Try copying it to a text-editor and moving the cursor with left and right: t#65279;#65279;he q#65279;u#65279;ick br#65279;#65279;#65279;own fo#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;x jump#65279;#65279;s ov#65279;er th#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;e la#65279;#65279;zy d#65279;og#65279; -- XanderH XanderH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Softsqueeze skipping at start of track
I'm running Softsqueeze 3.7 on a Athlon XP64 machine (XP SP2) with 2Gb RAM. It's a dedicated media centre machine, with nothing else running on it. I'm finding that it skips a split-second of each track during the first 10 seconds. There are no skips again until the start of the next track, when it does exactly the same thing. The Softsqueeze console doesn't show any errors. The server is Squeezecenter 7.3.3 on a Windows Server 2003 machine (Core2Duo with 2Gb RAM, not running anything else apart from a web server). I did a full rescan to try to resolve it but without any success. Connectivity is via gigabit ethernet. Can anyone suggest how to diagnose/resolve this? -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65735 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
peterw;441623 Wrote: For controlling, that seems to be true. But with Apple's forbidding background apps on iPhone and the combination of its conflict of interest with iTunes and iron-fisted control over what's in the App Store, it seems very unlikely that you'll be able to stream music to an iPhone. Android or Windows Mobile are much more likely to offer viable control + playback options. That's not true. You will be. There's plenty of similar apps for streaming, the only disclaimer on Apple's side is on bandwidth limitation for cellular application. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
andyg;441530 Wrote: Before you give up, try and see if running SC on a server that is faster than your cell phone fixes the problem. :) I kid, but only slightly, about how slow the non-x86 ReadyNAS boxes are. I know what you mean, but I experienced the same problem often before getting the Readynas. I was using a 2.2 ghz laptop. I'm convinced the problem is software-based. -- benthos benthos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting Sleep from SqueezeCenter...
CliffC;441537 Wrote: OK, I figured it out. My problem was that I keep all my playlists in iTunes. As soon as I defined one via SC it was available for use in KidsPlay. Is there a way I could incorporate those iTunes playlists? I expect there should be. SqueezeCenter appears to use URLs to represent iTunes playlists tracks, so you should be able to use something like playlist play itunesplaylist://biglongurl. I don't use iTunes myself, but I expect you could find the URLs by using the SqueezeCenter web interface and hovering over the hyperlinks as you browse your iTunes playlists. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52836 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Mnyb;441532 Wrote: Ok try to contact support, have u suffered for months without considering support !? http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/support/contact-support.html I've had the impression from searching these forums these many months that lots of people experience the same problem. Evidently the fix is to not use the latest software. sometimes upgrades goes south, consider a completely clean install of SC . That happens more often than one would like, sometimes you have to do clean installs instead of upgrades. but here with support about that. Or maybe a cleaning of the cache folder for SC . Search for CleanSqueezeCenter_DB on the ready nas forum. Thanks for the advice, but I've done that many times. It doesn't help with rebuffering. Is there a pattern to this any certain file type that is rebuffering ? aac, wma ? I play FLAC files. FLAC is certainly larger than mp3, etc. Maybe it's just that Squeezecenter has more trouble streaming FLAC than other formats. -- benthos benthos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
benthos;441644 Wrote: I've had the impression from searching these forums these many months that lots of people experience the same problem. Evidently the fix is to not use the latest software. Thanks for the advice, but I've done that many times. It doesn't help with rebuffering. I play FLAC files. FLAC is certainly larger than mp3, etc. Maybe it's just that Squeezecenter has more trouble streaming FLAC than other formats. It's more likely that the problem lies with your NAS. Do you have a laptop or something you could try as an alternative server? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB3 (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Outdoors: Boom Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Softsqueeze skipping at start of track
I've noticed that I do NOT get this problem on another machine on the network which is running the same version of Softsqueeze (and connected to the same SqueezeCenter server), so the problem appears to be specific to my media centre PC. -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65735 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Chances are extremely high that it is a problem with your network or your internet connection if you are streaming in a music service or internet radio --- not running the latest version of code. If it were a fundamental software problem related to streaming, it would be a widespread, catastrophic issue for everyone the forum would be flooded with angry users. Have you done any network bandwidth testing or anything else in attempt to isolate the issue? If it's your network, internet connection, or the station you're listening to, you have a couple options. Fix your network. If the device you're streaming to is wireless, wire it and see if the situation improves. If it does, you're dealing with a wireless issue. FLAC streams at a MUCH higher bitrate than lossy formats like MP3. If you are having trouble with FLAC, chances are *HIGHLY* likely you have a network problem. FLAC will exacerbate any underlying network problems - however, even FLAC should stream fine if you don't have network issues. Switch internet providers or get a faster service. Just because you can successfully browse the web on your internet or network connection, doesn't mean you=re not dropping packets, experiencing high latency, or running at a lower rate than the audio you're trying to stream. If all else fails, you can increase the buffer for internet radio stations. Personally, I've found that the Squeezebox line streams very reliably. I have about seven devices at my house and about three at my parent's house, all wireless. Both systems always running the latest release software. The devices never rebuffer, even when streaming from the internet for hours at a time, with the occasional exception of one of my SB3 devices. The problem with that device is that it's connected in another building via wireless bridge with a directional antenna that has to blow through a metal building to connect back to the mothership. The signal quality is very low (barely enough to even make a connection) and the connection is unreliable - in reality, it's amazing the SB3 works as well as it does under these conditions and streams well most of the time. -- 86atc250r 86atc250r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
benthos;441640 Wrote: I know what you mean, but I experienced the same problem often before getting the Readynas. I was using a 2.2 ghz laptop. I'm convinced the problem is software-based. I use FLAC for 95% of my music collection, and I use a wireless connection for the link to the SB3 client. I get 100% solid performance, and have never seen a rebuffering message on FLAC playback (occasionally with internet radio, but that is understandable). This is not to say you aren't having problems, because clearly you are, but I can also assert that under different conditions 7.3.3 can perform flawlessly. I have noticed an increased number of rebuffering complaints in these forums, though, so we have to entertain the possibility that something is going on. * Although your connection is wired, it may still be worth doing some throughput tests from the SB3 client (Settings == Information == Network test.) A bad router could still screw up a wired connection. * Try swapping out for a different server hardware, even though you don't suspect the ReadyNas. Having a fresh install on different hardware would eliminate quite a number of variables. * Try a factory reset of the SB3 in question. * Try using software clients (Squeezeplay, Squeezeslave, Softsqueeze) instead of hardware ones just to eliminate the SB3 as a source of trouble. If you would do all the above, you would have eliminated in turn the source, the connection and the client and I am quite convinced that one of these will cause the problem to vanish. If so, you will know a great deal more about where to look to finally solve the issue. -- dsdreamer -- Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Softsqueeze skipping at start of track
Try Softsqueeze 3.9b1 ? See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62060 Install using the Extension Downloader Details about the file format also help. If it is not a native format what format is the file being transcoded ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65735 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
I've had rebuffering issues of late as well, but have managed to fix them. I was tempted to blame the 7.3.x upgrades, but turns out it's been a combination of other factors. First, I've been slowly building my FLAC collection, with new music as well as reripping some CDs to FLAC. The rebuffering issues invariably arose when playing FLAC tracks. Problems likely would have popped up earlier for me had I not been playing mostly mp3s until recently. Second, I bought a new, larger LCD TV earlier this year. The SB3 and router that I have next to it (and was next to the old set) started having the rebuffering problems not long after I replaced the TV. I didn't connect the dots at first (for some reason everything worked fine for a week or two, but maybe I wasn't playing the SB3 much during that time...new toy and all), but I finally switched from a wireless connection to a wired one and fixed that problem. Must have been interference from the new set. Third, the SBR in my billiards room developed the same problem a few weeks later. Hooked it up to a powerline adapter (which the PC hosting SC is now on since I discovered the issue with the TV), and that didn't fix the problem. Replaced it with a spare SB3...still had issues. Finally checked the throughput on the powerline adapter and realized it was worse than a good wireless connection. Finally moved the SB3 to the other side of the bar where it has a clear line of sight to the router (which I'd moved from behind the TV to a shelf I built over it when trying to fix Problem #2). Problem solved. I guess the moral to the story is that even after months of faithful service, something new gets entered into the mix and can screw up what has been a reliable network. I've had other issues pop up, too...my wife's treadmill will draw so much power it makes my powerline adapters worthless when it comes to streaming music, new devices added to the network has messed it up, etc. My advice to anyone experiencing these issues is to explore EVERY possible source of network problem before blaming the software. I have umpteen examples of that being the case for me. -- GeeJay GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
With rebuffering - the first thing to do is run Network test and check that your network can deliver required bandwidth @ 100% for at least 10 mins. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Player stops playing
I have noticed this problem since installing 7.3.3. I will queue up a playlist of say ten songs or so and after it gets through two or three songs the player just stops. To see if it was a network problem, I hardwired the device into my network. No change. Anyone seen this? BTW, I am using a squeezebox classic. -- kbindera kbindera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65737 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
benthos;441640 Wrote: I know what you mean, but I experienced the same problem often before getting the Readynas. I was using a 2.2 ghz laptop. I'm convinced the problem is software-based. I can stream full WAV's via WiFi to my SB player from a wired 1.8 ghz laptop without issue. Admittedly I'm not streaming video files at the same time, but general internet surfing and basic computer tasks never bothers the WAV stream. WinXP, SC7.3.3 -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
I broke my install of 7.3.3 on Vista by installing Cisco Speed Meter. This added a bucket-load of drivers in the network stack, and triggered all manner of halts and rebuffering. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Softsqueeze skipping at start of track
Pardon my ignorance, but the instructions for installing 3.9beta appear to be for a server-side installation. How do I install it on my media centre PC client? -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65735 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio hangs
I had a similar problem (see my thread about Squeezebox Boom dropping Internet Radio), but not identical to yours, using radio stations via SqueezeNetwork. Don't know about the NPR issue (I avoid those guys like the plague) but it was repeatable on the stations I use. Just yesterday I discovered that downgrading SqueezeCenter from 7.3.3 to 7.3-24241 (which I downloaded last December) fixed my problem immediately. When installed, the older SC also downgraded my Boom's firmware from version 47 to 40. Since I was primarily using SN rather than SC, I think the firmware was the cause of my problem. I have not tried reinstalling 7.3.3 since then; just too happy to have it working again to fiddle with it. Hope this helps you. -- JimInPT JimInPT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65636 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting Sleep from SqueezeCenter...
peterw;441643 Wrote: I expect there should be. SqueezeCenter appears to use URLs to represent iTunes playlists tracks, so you should be able to use something like playlist play itunesplaylist://biglongurl. I don't use iTunes myself, but I expect you could find the URLs by using the SqueezeCenter web interface and hovering over the hyperlinks as you browse your iTunes playlists. Good thought, but what appears when you hover over a playlist name is what I take to be a database query (browsedb.html...) rather than a URL. It doesn't look like anything I can use. It's not a big deal since I'm really only interested in attaching a couple of playlists to the Boom presets. I can open the iTunes playlists in SC and then Save them under a new name to get them in to the SC Playlists folder. I'll just have to remember to update them when and if I update those playlists in iTunes. One final question. Is it possible to add one more command to the string to cause the display to show what is playing? As it is now it displays Now Playing (the string Now Playing, not what is playing). I tried adding a button right at the end of the command list, but that didn't do it. In any case, you've made one happy 71 year old Kid with KidsPlay. Many thanks. -- CliffC CliffC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29843 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52836 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
pippin;441636 Wrote: That's not true. You will be. There's plenty of similar apps for streaming, the only disclaimer on Apple's side is on bandwidth limitation for cellular application. After posting I realized I should have added the adverb well -- as in it seems unlikely that you'll be able to stream music well to an iPhone. Do those apps play music in the background? As far as I've read, the iPhone/iPod Touch SDK still does not allow third-parties to write background apps, and that means the *best* you can hope for is the ability to listen to SqueezeCenter music while doing nothing else with the phone (as you suggested in March -- http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=407686postcount=857). That would be truly lame, and neither Microsoft nor Google place such restrictions on their smartphone platforms. As for the fact that there are some iPhone streaming apps now, that doesn't change the fact that Apple can, and does, deny developers the right to publish apps to the iPhone App Store when Apple deems them to compete/overlap too much with Apple's own software. And the iPhones include remote kill switch software that lets Apple shut down software that's already been downloaded from the App Store. Apple could ban iPeng and remotely disable it on all iPhones tomorrow if they wanted to. Maybe Apple allows things like the Pandora app because they share Michael Robertson's belief that Pandora poses no threat to them, that Pandora is destined to be killed off by their SoundExchange royalty obligations (http://michaelrobertson.com/). -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
I've used, over the years, a Nokia 770, Nokia 810, and finally an iPhone. The Noikias + the 770 skin *worked*. The iPhone + iPeng *works well.* With all due respect to B Klass, the 770 skin author, the iPhone + iPeng wins, hands down.I'm confident that Jörg will get streaming to the iPhone happening withing the next several months. To me, the biggest drawback of the iPhone has nothing to do with SqueezeCenter control: it's the necessity of having to jailbreak the phone in order to unlock it. I'm keeping an old unlocked Nokia phone mothballed in anticipation of my next trip to Europe. When my ATT contract expires in a year, I'll ask ATT to unlock my phone. We'll see how far I get with that. PS: free to good home: 1 Nokia 770; 1 Nokia 810N. PM me. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Softsqueeze skipping at start of track
The zip file was supposed to be for standalone installation but one of the library file in the zip is incorrect. However you could do a server side installation and then run the browser on your Media PC to start Softsqueeze on your Media PC. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65735 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Player stops playing
After you wired it, did you go through network setup? If not, it's probably still using wireless. Press and hold the (back/left) button to get to the network setup option. If you're sure it's using Ethernet, you may want to check if there's something in the server.log. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65737 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
peterw;441694 Wrote: Do those apps play music in the background? As far as I've read, the iPhone/iPod Touch SDK still does not allow third-parties to write background apps, and that means the *best* you can hope for is the ability to listen to SqueezeCenter music while doing nothing else with the phone (as you suggested in March -- http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=407686postcount=857). That would be truly lame, and neither Microsoft nor Google place such restrictions on their smartphone platforms. I agree that's a limitation. However, it's my experience that this is actually not a lame decision but one that makes this phone work. I have tried quite a few smartphones and coming from that business side I've looked into quite a few others. All, without exception, but the iPhone soon run into trouble as soon as you have severall apps running. They get slow, people complain all over the place about battery lifetime and you get lots of crashes. My last one, a symbian phone, had the nice habit of rebooting right in the middle of a phone call if it considered you are in a low memory state. Sorry, these kind of features are not for me. Mobile devices don't have virtual memory, and I tell you, it's just nice to be able to test an App and then know, if it works in the test environment, it will do so while being used. For exactly the reason that you have background apps you get that on no other platform. Just can't guarantee it. I curse the fact that it doesn't have background processes quite often, but I also know it's the single most important reason why this is the first of the about 5 or 6 smartphones I've used that didn't suck. As for the fact that there are some iPhone streaming apps now, that doesn't change the fact that Apple can, and does, deny developers the right to publish apps to the iPhone App Store when Apple deems them to compete/overlap too much with Apple's own software. And the iPhones include remote kill switch software that lets Apple shut down software that's already been downloaded from the App Store. Apple could ban iPeng and remotely disable it on all iPhones tomorrow if they wanted to. Maybe Apple allows things like the Pandora app because they share Michael Robertson's belief that Pandora poses no threat to them, that Pandora is destined to be killed off by their SoundExchange royalty obligations (http://michaelrobertson.com/). Well, I agree, that's the theory. Practice is that there are even lots of Apps on the App Store that are in clear violation of Apple's guidelines and don't get pulled. Pandora's being one of them, btw. gharris999;441698 Wrote: To me, the biggest drawback of the iPhone has nothing to do with SqueezeCenter control: it's the necessity of having to jailbreak the phone in order to unlock it. I'm keeping an old unlocked Nokia phone mothballed in anticipation of my next trip to Europe. When my ATT contract expires in a year, I'll ask ATT to unlock my phone. We'll see how far I get with that. On your next trip to Europe, get an factory unlocked one from Italy or France. They are free to be sold within the EU and you even get Apple's warranty for them. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How To Stream Whats Playing?
Is it possible to stream blip.fm on the Squeezebox? -- smc2911 http://www.last.fm/user/smc2911/ smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63206 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Discrete On/Off codes for Transporter
Would like to know if anyone has the hex codes for power on/off for Transporter? Your help is much appreciated. -- htsource htsource's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15285 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Here's a bit of what my experience has been like: I've NEVER experienced rebuffering messages in the past. I ran 7.2.1 for a long time because each time I upgraded to a new version I would have dropouts. Always, going back to 7.2.1 would fix it. 7.3.3 has been pretty solid for me, but I've experienced the dreaded rebuffering situation. Perhaps the dropouts that would occur before were actually rebuffering? Perhaps it's progress now that it rebuffers rather than dropping the entire stream on the floor waiting for me to hit play to resume? I don't know...it's possible. It seems to coincidental that these rebuffering messages are popping up now that I've moved to 7.3.3. They are annoying, but infrequent enough that I've decided to stick it out. I like the stable player sync feature too much to let go of it :-). It seems to on particular days that the rebuffering will be a real issue for me. When this happens again, I'll have to take the run the network test advice. Perhaps something is interfering on only certain days. I've already been through moving the microwave :-) (a much simpler solution than running CAT-5 through my finished basement). All of my SBs are wireless and my entire library is FLAC. 99% of the time I have no problem, but man is it annoying when there is an issue! -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 3 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 27,462 songs, 2,276 albums, 434 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Connect MacMini direct to a SB3
Anybody know how to directly connect a MacMini to a SB3 without going thru a network or if it's possible at all. Thanks garryfp -- garryfp garryfp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31509 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Discrete On/Off codes for Transporter
Try this: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/pronto/SqueezeboxCodes.xls -- radish http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connect MacMini direct to a SB3
Sure, you should be able to use a regular ethernet cable (don't need a crossover as the Mac should be auto-sensing). You will need to set the IP, netmask etc manually on the SB3. -- radish http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connect MacMini direct to a SB3
garryfp;441721 Wrote: Anybody know how to directly connect a MacMini to a SB3 without going thru a network or if it's possible at all. Thanks garryfp Hello and welcome to the Forum. I have not actually tried to do this, but I believe all it takes is a Mac Mini loaded with Squeeze Center and an Ethernet cross-over cable. One might need to enable the Mac to see the SB3, but again I wouldn't know until I tried it. Give the Ethernet cable a try and see what you see. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 House Portable: SB3, Audioengine A5 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB3, ToughBook iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
I've been streaming all day on 7.3.3 - Rhapsody no less, in my shop, across the wireless bridge where it is barely connected at all (rain can drop the connection completely - luckily today is very nice). Streaming for around nine hours now as I work - rebuffer free... Check your network :) Kidding aside, you can go into settings and under your selected player, go to Now Playing and set the display to Show Buffer Fullness. FWIW, in streaming Rhapsody here at the shop (on the bad connection) it buffers about 131 seconds within a few seconds of starting the song and stays there (within a couple tenths of a second) until it counts down to the end of the song. Streaming Radio Paradise (internet radio) it buffers a couple seconds and stays there (again fluctuating a couple tenths). Streaming local FLAC files, it will actually buffer 100% of the next song before it even starts. It stays solid at 100% until it counts down to the next. In the song that I watched closely, I had about 39 seconds buffer with a FLAC file. With 39 seconds you can take quite a disruption before you should ever see a rebuffer message. Have a look and it may help you determine the cause of your issues. You may be able to determine if your network is struggling all the time, or just at certain times, maybe helping you isolate the source of the trouble as well. -- 86atc250r 86atc250r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Discrete On/Off codes for Transporter
Thank you very much, exactly what I'm looking for. -- htsource htsource's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15285 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting Sleep from SqueezeCenter...
CliffC;441682 Wrote: Good thought, but what appears when you hover over a playlist name is what I take to be a database query (browsedb.html...) rather than a URL. It doesn't look like anything I can use. I wonder if you could coax more info from the debugging system. The Perl source suggests there *is* an itunesplaylist URL format, and that if you set the plugin.itunes debug level to Info, it should log messages like Got a playlist ($url) named $name when you play an iTunes playlist. One final question. Is it possible to add one more command to the string to cause the display to show what is playing? As it is now it displays Now Playing (the string Now Playing, not what is playing). I tried adding a button right at the end of the command list, but that didn't do it. I'd try adding button browse; button now_playing;. I wouldn't do simply now_playing because that button will toggle the Now Playing format visualizer options if you're already in Now Playing; by sending a Browse button command first you should avoid that. It might be cleaner if you could send a command to jump into your When Playing screensaver, which is something that my SaverSwitcher plugin almost allows (it gives an Activate Screensaver option if you're using my ContextMenu plugin), but unfortunately I didn't make a CLI command for that. In any case, you've made one happy 71 year old Kid with KidsPlay. Many thanks. Glad to hear it! -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52836 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
