Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
jimzak;633411 Wrote: > > 2. Emachines Atom, 1st gen, single core (XP 32 bit, 2GB RAM) > > This one was much more efficient, but scans took 45+ minutes and I'm > adding a lot of new music all the time. Streaming performance was > fine. > Forgot to comment on this... As can be seen from my signature I didn't find an old laptop at the time and built a server with an Atom dual-core. With my 10.000 tracks it is pretty fast for me. About scanning performance; I am running 7.6 and it is wicked fast compared to 7.5. Back on 29 september I did a comparison on my then 8136 track library. 7.3.3 20:57 7.4.2 16:03 7.5.2 16:06 7.6.0_31389 3:47 Half of the time saving came from artwork handling 6:26 -> 0:23 The first big reduction was changing the artwork handling to use SQLite. And then in August/September Andy optimised the code further; but as I recall not everyone would see all the improvements from the code changes. a x86 library was introduced, but the improvements from that would only benefit SBS on x86. Below the times from back then - text is in danish but you get the picture Version: 7.5.2 - r31387 @ Wed Sep 29 02:07:14 PDT 2010 Indeksering af mapper (8136 af 8136) Fuldstændig 00:09:01 Søgning efter afspilningslister (1 af 1) Fuldstændig 00:00:00 Flet Diverse kunstnere (658 af 658) Fuldstændig 00:00:39 Søg efter covere (747 af 747) Fuldstændig 00:06:26 Version: 7.6.0 - r31389 @ Wed Sep 29 02:08:01 PDT 2010 Søger efter filer (9438 af 9438) Fuldstændig 00:00:28 Søg efter nye filer (8136 af 8136) Fuldstændig 00:02:56 Søger efter filer (2 af 2) Fuldstændig 00:00:00 Søg efter nye afspilningslister (1 af 1) Fuldstændig 00:00:00 Gem coverbilleder i cachelager (639 af 639) Fuldstændig 00:00:23 -- slate Main: Receiver (Audiocom) -> Beresford Caiman+ (Gatorized) -> Carver A-500x -> B&W 704 Office: Receiver -> Luxman L-210 -> Stax SR84 Pro/Superlux HD668B Server: Zotac IONITX-A, 4 GB, 1 TB WD EADS, Win7 w. 7.6 (SQLite w. High Mem) Tied together by D-Link DIR-655 + DGS-1008D slate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30502 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connecting... Buffering... Connecting... Buffering... Connecting... Buffering...
Moffedille;632983 Wrote: > Do you use your boom for playing stored music files as well? If so, do > you also get these rebuffering issues when playing those? Many users > have reported rebuffering problems with the latest (7.4 and 7.5) server > versions. I usually got problems after some time, say half an hour of > listening - and then it became impossible to listen to music. > > I am now using server version 7.6, and haven't had any issues so far > (although it is a bit early to tell yet). Interesting. I am using a 7.5.4 - r version of the server. I mostly stream radio, at least, I haven't unpacked and reconnected my music library yet. -- ja2038 ja2038's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40583 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87859 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connecting... Buffering... Connecting... Buffering... Connecting... Buffering...
bpa;632782 Wrote: > Have you tried increasing Radio Station Buffer it is helpful if the > station has a "lumpy" stream. > Increase WebUI Setting/Advanced Network/Radio Station Buffer and click > Apply. > > Another suggestion > > If the stream is MP3 or WMA then the stream goes from station direct to > Boom to be played. If the stream is MP3 or WMA then you can try > getting SBS to proxy the stream and so the stream goes from station to > PC and then to Boom so PC will do the networking handling. > > Change WebUI Settings/Player/Audio/MP3 Streaming Methods/ to "Proxied > Streaming" and click Apply. > > Ignore the "MP3" IIRC it is true for both WMA and MP3 So I've increased the station buffering, doubled it, and I'll take a look at what happens. I appreciate the second suggestion. I don't think it has an effect since I almost always have two sync'd players, and so it uses proxy streaming anyway. Regardless, I found the description of how the connections are made informative, I've been wondering what goes directly to the player, and what is proxied through the server. -- ja2038 ja2038's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40583 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87859 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
boatnanny;633435 Wrote: > an atom based system is the way to go choose one of the dual core > models,install vortexbox (www.vortexbox.org) and hide it away in a > corner you wont go back to anything else -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
By else, I mean anything other than music? Before you ask about all the "servers," ask if you need (or know) what they do. P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
boatnanny;633435 Wrote: > an atom based system is the way to go choose one of the dual core > models,install vortexbox (www.vortexbox.org) and hide it away in a > corner you wont go back to anything else -- ajkidle Squeezeboxen: 2x SBR, SB3, 2x Boom, Radio Controlled by: iPhone 4 running iPeng 1.3.2 Server: MSI Nettop 100 running VortexBox 1.8 ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Open the Case of a Controller ?
Got screens from seller on eBay - They had one left, last time I checked. It does indeed open as you say -Thank you. Both screens went right in and look great - Orig screens were so dim as to be unreadable. I would be interested in a case or two - Pls email me at whd1...@comcast.net. Thanks again. -- whdean whdean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87855 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
SuperQ;633424 Wrote: > The mac mini also makes a good server. Very small, quiet, power > efficient. Maybe an old Mac Mini.. The thing could run for years on the extra money you spend. By the way, the more efficient the Mac Mini, the stronger this argument. P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
An atom based system is the way to go choose one of the dual core models,install vortexbox (www.vortexbox.org) and hide it away in a corner you wont go back to anything else -- boatnanny MY TOUCH,ROTEL RSP-1066,RB985-Mk2,B&W 805,HTM2 SB3,YAMAHA RX-V367,B&W MATRIX2 DUET,DIY AMP,ADS BOOKSHELFS IPENG FOR I PHONE CONTROLS IT ALL VORTEXBOX ON ATOM BD SERVES IT ALL boatnanny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
Soulkeeper;633423 Wrote: > But if I wanted something less power hungry, I'd consider buying a used > laptop (possibly with a broken screen, so that I'd get it even cheaper) > and put it in a drawer somewhere, together with two or three USB hard > drives. That was also the first thing i looked for; also better for the enviroment to recycle an old laptop. -- slate Main: Receiver (Audiocom) -> Beresford Caiman+ (Gatorized) -> Carver A-500x -> B&W 704 Office: Receiver -> Luxman L-210 -> Stax SR84 Pro/Superlux HD668B Server: Zotac IONITX-A, 4 GB, 1 TB WD EADS, Win7 w. 7.6 (SQLite w. High Mem) Tied together by D-Link DIR-655 + DGS-1008D slate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30502 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
The mac mini also makes a good server. Very small, quiet, power efficient. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
Depends on the scenario I guess. I am using an old 1 GHz thing in a tower cabinet. It makes a bit of noise and heat, sucks in loads of dust, and guzzles electricity, but where I live it's usually so cold that the server doubles as a heater anyway. No keyboard or screen attached. But if I wanted something less power hungry, I'd consider buying a used laptop (possibly with a broken screen, so that I'd get it even cheaper) and put it in a drawer somewhere, together with two or three USB hard drives. Cables are everywhere, anyway. I've given up fighting them a long time ago. :D -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
Using remote desktop software for Windows or Linux, you don't need a locally attached keyboard, mouse, or monitor. And if you're running Linux and can manage a server from the console, you don't even need remote desktop. And it's more convenient than physically going to the server when you need to perform some maintenance task. I'm not big on using notebooks as servers for a number of reasons. One is the cost, where you can almost always buy or build a comparable desktop/nettop for less than the cost of a notebook. Another is that you're pretty much forced to use external disk drives for storage of a large music library. That means an extra wall wart and a couple of extra cables, which is just kinda messy. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
And it can be used for other purposes as well. We just user our "main" laptop for SBS. It's really a desktop replacement with 17" screen, 2*500Gb drives, Core 5i 540M, 4Gb RAM. With WOL it doesn't use that much power, 1,7Watt suspended, approx 17watt while streaming, 21watt if LED screen is on (someone using the PC). -- Letten Sboxes: Duet, Classic, Radio, 2 Boom's Server: HP Laptop, Core i5-540M, 4Gb DDR3, WOL (Wake-on-lan), 1.7watt suspended, Windows 7, SBS 7.5.3 Router: Linksys WRT54G wireless Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideal Server Computer?
AFAIU, Linux will allow you to run on 1/4 of the RAM and CPU capacity, with better performance. (Or so I've heard. I use Win myself, and have only tested Linux a little bit, but it seems to be the case.) -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Ideal Server Computer?
I've tried the following computers as servers for SBS: 1. HP Slimline Pentium dual core (XP 32 bit, 2GB RAM) This worked fine with good performance and reasonable scan tims but I had concerns about energy usage. 2. Emachines Atom, 1st gen, single core (XP, 2GB RAM) This one was much more efficient, but scans took 45+ minutes and I'm adding a lot of new music all the time. Streaming performance was fine. 3. Homemade 1st gen i3 dual core desktop (Win7, 4GB RAM) Fast scans, but running a desktop with a separate monitor seems inefficient. 4. MSI 1st gen i3 dual core notebook (Win7, 4GB RAM) This seems to be the sweet spot for me. It's a cheap, refurbished notebook. Scans are fast and streaming is fine. The whole thing runs on one power brick, and it stays very cool. Personally I think this is the sweet spot for performance and efficiency. YMMV. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.4 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad & SqueezePad, Nexus S phone w/Logitech controller app 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 92,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB, Mac and wma
I run Squeezebox Server on a Mac, to an SB2 (and also a Radio). Lately, some of the files that I have saved from the radio have only been available in wma format. As far as I can see, these won't play directly on my SB. I can always convert them to another format. But is there a way of getting them to play without conversion? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87967 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Albums show up twice
Albums are showing up twice. I have noticed that this happens if some of the tracks in the album are in a saved playlist. One of the albums shows the tracks in the playlist and the other album shows the tracks which aren't! Squeezebox is clearly reading the tracks as if they come from two different albums. Looking at an earlier thread, one cause could be that there are different file paths to the tracks, but opening the playlist file in notepad, the paths in the playlist appear to be exactly the same as the tracks not in the playlist when I look at the track details in 'more info' in the player. E:\mp3\artist name\album\track Any ideas? It's really frustrating as I can't ask squeezebox to play a whole album if any of the tracks within it are in a playlist! Will -- will biddle will biddle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21903 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87965 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
I would bet that any non-compete clause would have been time bound with a duration of no more than a year or two. Also if the "new company" were established in the state of California Logitech would find it very difficult to enforce a non-compete clause of any type. California, under most circumstances, has invalidated non-compete clauses. -- w3wilkes 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Zune Pass
Microsoft provides DRM free MP3s for all music you purchase through Zune Software. The Zune Pass gives you unlimited downloads, with the caveat being that you need a subscription to play it. You can download it the 3 Zune devices, and I think 3 different PCs. You aren't buying songs with Zune Pass. You are basically subscribing to the rights to play songs, with some additional bonus features. Zune Pass is actually very cool. But unfortunately, I serve up music to my whole house audio via the Slimserver. So that means I have to figure out another way to serve up PC stored Zune Pass music to my central audio system. Until then, I'll just have access to my purchased music. I'm not sure what some of you expect from Microsoft. There is no way they could do what they do with ZunePass, without the DRM. -- diveatlas diveatlas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69351 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to manage playlists ?
Ive been watching this thread and wait to get some answers. Thanks socistep for sharing with us your answers. I have been using winamp also for it is very simple and easy than any other options. -- marizlyd 'motorcycle insurance' (http://www.motorcycle.com/buyers-guide/motorcycle-insurance.html) marizlyd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87372 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I make my music server a music source?
Yes, sure. You can make that one. I did that before by using one of the squeezebox software players. I think there are a lot of choices on it so just pick one. -- marizlyd 'motorcycle insurance' (http://www.motorcycle.com/buyers-guide/motorcycle-insurance.html) marizlyd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
Anyone want to speculate on the length of the non-compete clause that was included in the SlimDevices-LogiTech purchase agreement? I'd love to see this happen, but I imagine we'll be a bunch of guys turning blue before it does. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
You can count on my dollar too -- jeremy jeremy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
Mnyb;63 Wrote: > This forum has 34,253 members, what would the cost be per member if we > start a company that we all could be shareholders in and hire Sean and > Dean... Gets my vote (and money) :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
This forum has 34,253 members, what would the cost be per member if we start a company that we all could be shareholders in and hire Sean and Dean... -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Open the Case of a Controller ?
Hello. undo the srews in the battery compartment and then run your fingernails round the case where the two halfs meet, the plastic things that hold them together will open then. it does need a little bit of force though. Inside you have to undo the riser board to get to the screws for the display. Where did you get the replacment screen by the way? Ta. Andi P.S. I have a few cases spare if you break anything... -- appeland appeland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29235 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87855 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
