[slim] Can't view track tags via SBS web interface
Drilling down into a song url to read the tags/metadata just gives me a blank left hand pane since I upgraded to the release version of 7.5.4. My iPeng and Squeezepad clients are both fine. They display the information correctly when I look in the more info drilldown. I can also read the extended information if I navigate to the same data via the Custom Browse plugin. I've tried both FF4 and IE9, same result. Any ideas folks? -- browellm Modwright Transporter Kondo M7 Red Wine Signature 70.2 Avantgarde Uno Nano http://www.last.fm/user/browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't view track tags via SBS web interface
What are the types of files and what kind of tags do they have? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't view track tags via SBS web interface
JJZolx;636131 Wrote: What are the types of files and what kind of tags do they have? FLAC and mp3. Both are affected. No special tags. -- browellm Modwright Transporter Kondo M7 Red Wine Signature 70.2 Avantgarde Uno Nano http://www.last.fm/user/browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Guy48065;634446 Wrote: Still no answer? Last I knew he was traveling--went to Google IO--but should have returned by now. I emailed him about his tracker server possibly being down got a reply on the 12th but I still can't log in and haven't gotten a reply to my followup email on the 26th. Somebody must know... Its been a month since Christian was on the site and also on his twitter feed, so I hope that all is ok with him -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music2touch 1.4.3 for the Blackberry Playbook released
While not exactly feature-rich at this stage, it does work well and seems fairly snappy. Going to be away for a few weeks, so can't review more until later. Thanks, -- Rick B. Rick B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88180 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What The **** Do I Need?
I'd have to agree that the SB ecosystem isn't for *everyone*. But trying to identify that cut-off point is a bit tricky. One simple test might be if you never have problems attaching a file to an email; ie you understand the concept of directory structures, and how files end up in different places on your computer. If you totally get this, and you're happy to do the occasional bit of googling when computery things go wrong, I'd say a basic SB setup is well within your capabilities. Given that the OP mentions NASs and FLAC, I think he/she is comfortably in the target demographic ;) OTOH, mysterious intermittent networking problems could probably break the spirit of Alan Turing himself. But I think it's a bit unfair to single the SB out in this regard; it applies (almost) equally to all home wifi, wireless printing, etc. Some (few?) people just seem to be unlucky and get plagued with networking badness; if you've already decided you want *some* type of streaming audio system, you're going to be in the network lottery regardless, and I don't think the 'SB vs something else' angle is massively relevant to your outcome. It'll probably be fine ;) -- oktup oktup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1117 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88215 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What The **** Do I Need?
oktup;636152 Wrote: OTOH, mysterious intermittent networking problems could probably break the spirit of Alan Turing himself. ;-) -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88215 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What The **** Do I Need?
I'd also add (especially if comparing Sonos to a Boom/Radio) the issue of true portability. Even though the Sonos S5 has it's own speakers it cannot be used as a truly standalone portable player - must be connected to a Sonos ZP or ZB (all SB players will connect directly to any basic network, no base station needed) - cannot communicate with standard WiFi (limited to the proprietary Sonos mesh wireless) - no display on Sonos players (yes there are the fine Apps, web UI, dedicated Sonos Controller, but requiring these for basic functions removes the portability factor, IMO) Note: I have ZERO experience with Sonos, but I believe this is how they work (and the inherent issues that accompany them). :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88215 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What The **** Do I Need?
oktup;636152 Wrote: I'd have to agree that the SB ecosystem isn't for *everyone*. But trying to identify that cut-off point is a bit tricky. One simple test might be if you never have problems attaching a file to an email; ie you understand the concept of directory structures, and how files end up in different places on your computer. If you totally get this, and you're happy to do the occasional bit of googling when computery things go wrong, I'd say a basic SB setup is well within your capabilities. Given that the OP mentions NASs and FLAC, I think he/she is comfortably in the target demographic ;) OTOH, mysterious intermittent networking problems could probably break the spirit of Alan Turing himself. But I think it's a bit unfair to single the SB out in this regard; it applies (almost) equally to all home wifi, wireless printing, etc. Some (few?) people just seem to be unlucky and get plagued with networking badness; if you've already decided you want *some* type of streaming audio system, you're going to be in the network lottery regardless, and I don't think the 'SB vs something else' angle is massively relevant to your outcome. It'll probably be fine ;) Yea Sonos solution is to use it's own proprietary network, thus freeing themself from user errors in network setup, left only with the figth against nature and other radio sources . Reading this forum makes you wonder , same people always get network problems and new server versions always breaks their install ? I'll bet that an upgrade whose only diff where the version numbers would also break their installs, some peoples computer environment seems very fragile like a house of cards ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88215 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Online Learning
Now a days,It has been seen that many students search for online courses or we can say e-learning for their higher education or sometimes for some specific courses. VHSE provides online schooling in a very trusting and excellent manner and is available for 365(24*7) days. It consists of a number of around 20 Well certified and licensed teachers who are available anytime for solving any kind of learning problems. -- Virtualhse Virtualhse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Online Learning
Now we need a degree to use SBS? j/k :) DIE SPAMMER! -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
Just to clear everything up here. 1: ANY router can do Airplay between airplay capable devices (only airport express can be used as an airport-analog-output-endpoint) 2: If squeezebox wants to support airplay, it can. Apple allows it. Don't know how much it will cost logitech though. 3: Squeezeserver actually doesn't need to have anyhting to do with airplay. Each squeezebox could be standalone an airplay device that shows up as speakers for any airplay source like iphone, ipad etc. 4: Itunes actually doesn't need to be any part in this either. For example: Wirless network with ANY router. iphone connected, squeezebox connected (no server, no pc, no mac) IF the squeezebox was a true airplay device the iphone could stream DIRECTLY to the squeezebox. Bottom line: a firmware update could turn any squeezi into a true airplay endpoint to which we could stream from iphones, ipods, ipads or those who want itunes. Personally I think if logitech doesn't do that they really risk something. They can make the squeezebox a valid accessory for apple devices and at the same time be what they are. For what is worth, I will not buy another squeezi if they aren't going airplay. I will just get an appletv and use it for audio only. I can put a death cheap appletv in any room in the house and stream from my iphone to it whenever and whereever I am. I'd love if the squeezi could do it, but if they dont, its my last one. A company does always good if they keep it compatible with as many services as possible. Ignoring airplay would be a huge mistake. -- analographi analographi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8951 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
andyg;605108 Wrote: No, Apple does not make it possible. wrong. YOU don't make it possible! -- analographi analographi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8951 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
analographi;636181 Wrote: ... 2: If squeezebox wants to support airplay, it can. Apple allows it. Don't know how much it will cost logitech though.. I don't know about Airplay, but SqueezeBox asked Apple for years to license iTunes DRM support for it's players. Apple's response was a definitive no. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
analographi;636181 Wrote: . A company does always good if they keep it compatible with as many services as possible. Ignoring airplay would be a huge mistake. Yet Apple does not have native FLAC support. Within reason I agree more is better which in turn means more options to the user and the market in general. But if licensing for every possible closed source system out there (Apple, Zune, etc..) means driving up the price of the players, then I say forget it. It is rather comical, albeit sad also, the number of Apple and Zune users who come to these and other forums related to streaming music systems only to find out they are stuck with the hardware devices and limitations of the format they have bought into. Obviously they are seeking additional options, variety, features and choices to enjoy their music on other platforms, only to find out such platforms are not available too them based on restrictions set forth by their chosen platform source (i.e. Apple, Zune). -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
Heuer;635735 Wrote: To be fair this is a contracting market especially with the direction Apple have mapped out for us with iCloud. Apple can take their iCloud and ram it up their iArse. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
socistep;631771 Wrote: Hi T-Bird Sounds like its a problem with our phone/version of android, I also have the same problem when leaving home and returning as you explained. Christian - please can you review? Thanks Ian I have the same problem using a Samsung Galaxy S2 using Android 2.3.3. Cycling the the wirless connectivity seems to allow the commander to see the server again. James -- jwillans jwillans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Online Learning
use the report button, the mods will take it away , don't feed them it atracts interest for the tread... :) remeber this old one http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/26/russian_spammer_killed/ -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering with Napster only,please help.
Hi, I have noticed the rebuffering is much worse in recent weeks. It seemed to settle down after Christmas, but is back. As per original thread, its just Napster; internet radio and my flac music have no issues at all. Just me (us), or anyone esle noticing this getting worse? Appeciate any comments thanks -- Dandaw66 Dandaw66's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87811 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
Based on my experience, it's going to take time before we see anything
official from Logitech regarding this, it always tends to get
complicated as soon as business agreements are required.
While we wait, there is always the already working third party AirPlay
solution for Squeezebox:
http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/762
It's a bit technical at the moment, but I'm sure it will improve pretty
fast as most other third party stuff tends to do around here.
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Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
Phil Leigh;636202 Wrote:
Apple can take their iCloud and ram it up their iArse.
Just because it's Apple or do you have some other reason ?
What about a LogitechCloud ?
Or maybe SlimCloud :-)
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Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
toby10;636185 Wrote: I don't know about Airplay, but SqueezeBox asked Apple for years to license iTunes DRM support for it's players. Apple's response was a definitive no. How do you know that? There are other things to prohibit agreements than a definite no. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What The **** Do I Need?
Mnyb;636170 Wrote: Yea Sonos solution is to use it's own proprietary network, thus freeing themself from user errors in network setup, left only with the figth against nature and other radio sources . Reading this forum makes you wonder , same people always get network problems and new server versions always breaks their install ? I'll bet that an upgrade whose only diff where the version numbers would also break their installs, some peoples computer environment seems very fragile like a house of cards ? if so, then why is it only slim gear that exhibits difficulties? in other words, in my exp, i have seen the above, but only with slim, not apple, not tivo, not other gear. the very first problem i had almost instantly with slim, that still isn't fully solved btw, (but after YEARS has improved to some degree, including some bug / code fixes made at my urging) was listening to a shoutcast stream. slim simply couldn't handle it, going into buffering mode and so on. all the pro slimmers, some of which are here in this thread i think (if not literally, than in spirit), wanted to first blame my network, the environment, etc, and when i made clear it was totally normal, and that i could always ROBUSTLY and RELIABLY stream the same shoutcast on a wifi laptop with winamp, they actually resorted to saying that it wasn't fair to compare the dinky ip3k slim solution to that. not fair? well, i couldn't disagree more. first of all, its sold to people saying you can do that, without even needing a computer! secondly, it IS supposed to be able to do that, anything said to the contrary is nonsense. my main beef is that in almost all cases when i have problems with slim stuff that i report, even after years of using it, the reaction from other users / devs, is to blame me, my setup, etc... and do everything possible not to blame slim. the problem is that it almost ALWAYS IS slim. and in my case, i feel that an even bigger problem is that none of the devs live in windows, and so you run up against all kinds of issues that seem to come from that. and once you prove it must be slim, you're lucky if the devs actually do anything about it, which granted it may not be easy or possible, but communiction on such issues would be nice. i have real bugs that they know about that they refuse to fix, one i can think of goes back to 2008. having said all that, i am still using it, for now. but the marketplace seems to be catching up to them. i am hopeful with some things they are doing, like the DLNA, but the lack of resources and so on is problematic, and waiting on 7.6 has become a joke. logitech really needs to step up their game if they expect this stuff to survive. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b - win7 xp pro sp3 ie9 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88215 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
pippin;636221 Wrote: How do you know that? There are other things to prohibit agreements than a definite no. It was mentioned in here by one of the developers years ago. The general gist of the response was we've tried a number of times to discuss licensing with Apple/iTunes and we will continue to ask, but they won't cooperate. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
erland;636219 Wrote: Just because it's Apple or do you have some other reason ? What about a LogitechCloud ? Or maybe SlimCloud :-) No, just because it's a cloud and thus out of my control... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
OK, on AirPlay Apple wants to cooperate and does so with a number of companies. The biggest hurdle I can see for a company who wants to use this is that Apple doesn't require just a license or something but that you also have to buy the chipset from their supplier. That can be a bummer. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;636235 Wrote: The biggest hurdle I can see for a company who wants to use this is that Apple doesn't require just a license or something but that you also have to buy the chipset from their supplier. That can be a bummer. The gist I got from speaking indirectly to someone who's been doing some development work on a similar thing is that Apple won't give you the DRM keys if you license it - you have to take the chipset with it already programmed. If that is still the case despite the key now having been cracked then it's going to make it a non-starter for any existing Squeezebox products, so it could only possibly be for new products anyway. I think the plug-in solution is the neatest idea anyway as it opens it up to all of the product line. -- paulster Web Interface sending music to the wrong player? Please vote for bug '17144' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17144) paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I,m inclined to think the iCloud came from the iAr*** not the otherway around :) But cloud anything will eventually be zanitized disneyfied and contentcontrolled and out of your hands, it may not be soo now but it's only a matter of time.. Most are even today happy about renting thier musik from services etc -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Anyone tried both Android and iPeng? Which do you prefer, why?
Thinking of getting an ipod touch or a new android phone, not sure which, just after your thoughts on sound quality and a remote control app for my SB... Was thinking of ipod touch, as I understand sound quality is pretty good, and have seen ipeng briefly on utube which seems to work nicely and quickly. But, then again, getting a new android phone would mean easier comunication with everything else... Any thoughts much appreciated! Cheers DC -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The iPod Touch is just damned expensive for what it is. Small Android tablets are becoming increasingly affordable. The Barnes Noble Nook Color looks nice, and they're easy to find on Craigslist for under $200. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone tried both Android and iPeng? Which do you prefer, why?
Compare like to like, iphone to droid phone or itouch/ipad to droid tablet or various wifi-capable devices that aren't phones. Droid and i-phones seem to me to be more similar than different in basic operations. The Apple platform has been around longer and has had a large customer base longer, so there are more apps. Droid devices are outselling iphones now and the universe of available apps is growing quickly. The Droid interface with gmail and other Google services has been smoother and more capable than the same with Apple devices, in case that matters to you. I have experience with SB apps on both platforms and frankly they too seem more similar than different. I can't say I prefer either. If you need a phone, either will be the Swiss Army knife you're looking for. If you don't need a phone but are looking for just a wifi remote capability, I don't think the choice matters other than price. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeyTunes - NEW! Remote control app for Blackberry PlayBook
i had a wireless setup and the remote was working fine... I decided to hook my Touch via ethernet, but now it seems that it has knackered the settings not sure what to put for the server hostname/ip -- hal jones hal jones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87671 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeyTunes - NEW! Remote control app for Blackberry PlayBook
Magically, it now connected. I didn't change a thingjust kept trying to connect and it did!! -- hal jones hal jones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87671 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
Like any mass-vs-hobbist product there's not going to be one generic product that covers every need. Just like integrated cameras in smartphones aren't about to kill the high end camera market, integrated player software or simplistic products are not going to end the niche the SB products play in. Is the SB something everybody should have in their home? No. But for many of us with audiophile aspirations and that view their music as a collection (and not a short term repository of current hits) the SB concept has and will retain a lot of appeal because of its range and flexibility. Will it be a large enough market for Logitech? Not sure, but that's a different question, and I am sure the market is large enough to attract someone's attention and cater to the SB installed base no matter what. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: MiniITX build w/Intel DH61DL i3-2100T - Ubuntu 11.04 - SBS 7.5.4 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Radio (1), Accuphase DP65v CD (used as DAC mostly) Amplifiers: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87951 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone tried both Android and iPeng? Which do you prefer, why?
Thank you both for your comments :-) -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sean and Dean - We Want You Back!
pablolie;636295 Wrote: Like any mass-vs-hobbist product there's not going to be one generic product that covers every need. Just like integrated cameras in smartphones aren't about to kill the high end camera market, integrated player software or simplistic products are not going to end the niche the SB products play in. Is the SB something everybody should have in their home? No. But for many of us with audiophile aspirations and that view their music as a collection (and not a short term repository of current hits) the SB concept has and will retain a lot of appeal because of its range and flexibility. Will it be a large enough market for Logitech? Not sure, but that's a different question, and I am sure the market is large enough to attract someone's attention and cater to the SB installed base no matter what. The below is pure speculation and not based on any facts. I think the problem is that Logitech currently doesn't seem to know which users they like to target: - It's pretty clear they aren't targeting the geeks/audiophiles anymore because most of the advanced features aren't prioritized - It's also pretty clear that they aren't targeting the mass market because they don't dare to upset the current customer base and simplify the devices for the mass market. It's also pretty clear they try to spend as few resources as possible on Squeezebox development at the moment, which probably also is one of the reasons why we don't see any move in any of the directions since either direction would require development resources. If they like to target the niche market, I believe it would require a smaller company to run the business, something similar to Sonos or Slim Devices. Possibly it could also work if there were a dedicated unit within a big company like Logitech that executed the development and business. However, as soon as upper management cares, it's going to fail within a big company because it's too small compared to everything else they are doing. It's always going to be easier to produce and sell mices, at least as long as mices haven't been completely replaced with touchpad devices and touch screens. So in my mind, targeting the mass market is the only solution for Logitech, the question is just if they dare to make the decisions required to re-target the products this way. It's certainly going to hurt their existing customer base which have a lot higher percentage of geeks and audiophiles than most mass market products. If they really decide to re-target towards mass market it could mean things like: - Drop SqueezeOS as platform and use a standard framework like Android or something else similar. - Drop local computer based server (SBS) and only focus on mysqueezebox.com and to listen to local music you would have to connect a USB drive directly to one of the Squeezebox devices. The result of this could, but doesn't have to, mean dropped support for third party plugins and instead possibly focus on supporting third party applets running directly on the device. - Drop web interface support, the devices have to be controlled via a iOS/Android device or IR remote - Drop support for advanced configuration options - Drop focus on audio quality, it needs to be good enough but it doesn't have to be state of the art. The result would be similar to the Squeezebox Touch with a local hard drive. In the mass market it got to be easy, plug in the device and connect the external USB drive with music and start playing, no installation or configuration on a computer what so ever. It would of course require the Touch to actually work with most of the USB drives out there and also work reliably without an external server. It of course doesn't make much sense to do the above changes on existing products, so what we are seeing now is probably Logitech trying to get as much as possible out of existing customers and still spend as little resources as possible on maintenance, support and marketing. Just putting the existing products on the shelf in the stores is going to sell some devices, even with minimal maintenance/support, so it's worth for them to milk existing customers a bit more. If Logitech wants to continue in the audio streaming business but move towards mass market, we are probably going to see something completely new. It might be called Squeezebox, to re-use the brand, but it's probably not going to be particular similar to the Squeezebox devices we have seen so far. It's going to have less focus on audio quality and customization possibilities and more focus on simplicity and price. Possibly based on similar platform and hardware as Logitech Revue, possibly developed by completely different resources than the current Squeezebox team who is tied too much to this geek community and don't want to upset us. However, once again, this is just speculation and I'm probably completely wrong about all this. As long as Logitech has understand the advantage of supporting third
