Re: [slim] playlist access

2011-08-07 Thread erland

Is it iTunes playlists that doesn't show up ? 
There is a bug about that:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17394
Vote on it if you like to get a notification when someone solves it.

If the problem is related to other type of playlists, have you tried
latest nightly 7.6.1 beta where a lot of problems have been corrected
?
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.6

If 7.6.1 doesn't solve it, have you looked in the scanner.log file to
see if there are any errors ? (You will find its location in SBS
Settings/Advanced/Logging)


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Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-07 Thread verypsb

I did buy a Escient Fireball for around EUR 1700,- Then considered a
"pro" solution. I've owned it for 6 months, but I was never really
happy with it. Many , many problems... Not convinced by its audio
quality either. Then I bought I a Squeezebox Duet (EUR 299,-)(Because I
didn't want to buy a expensive sytem that didn't work again, i.e. Sonos.
Not because Sonos doesn't work, but I didn't want to take the risk
again)
Since the Squeezebox Duet I've been a happy streaming audio user. I
think the audio quality is better than the Escient.
If you take a look at my signature, you can see I'm convinced by the
quality and possibilties of the Squeezbox system. If only Logitech
would release some new devices and emphasized multiroom audio
possibilties in their marketing.


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Re: [slim] playlist access

2011-08-07 Thread grahamlacey

I am glad I am not alone. I have tried everything. Selected various
locations for the playlists..the same folder as the music location is
supposed to be the right one.  Have rescanned. Haveupgraded
software. Have switched to a different Mac with same prefs. No go.

But playlists does not show in the menu items list for the SB2 player.


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Re: [slim] 7.6 is totally broken

2011-08-07 Thread Michael Herger
> I'm using 7.6.1 (32992-i386-readynas.bin) with a Netgear NAS Ultra 2.
> Unfortunately, the squeezebox can't scan properly my iTunes playlists
> (iTunes 10.4). Some playlist are complete, some are incomplete and some
> don't even appear. I downloaded 7.6.1 (32992) for Mac OSX, just to make
> sure it was not a NAS problem. I encountered the same problem. I had no
> problem with 7.5.6. Thank you so much to consider this request.

I'll be working on this later today. Please see 
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Re: [slim] What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

2011-08-07 Thread MeSue


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89397

Question: What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

- Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration
- Improved support for existing online services
- Support for more online services
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Player
  firmware
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in mysqueezebox.com
- Improved browsing of local library
- New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support
- New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music
  without computer
- New Squeezebox hardware with support for video
- New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price


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Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread mrfantasy

I run the nightlies (debian 'unstable' branch) and almost never have
problems.  I only have one Squeezebox 2 and use SqueezePlay and
SqueezePlayer, have about 15,000 FLAC files (and a few dozen MP3s).


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Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-07 Thread mrfantasy

Don't forget these guys:

http://www.olive.us/

And that's the issue, I think--any of these dedicated audio devices are
for people who are serious about music.  Squeezebox is quite frankly at
the bottom of the market for price (although I think sound quality is
much better than that), Sonos is not far behind, and then you shoot up
into the $1000 and up devices from Soolos, Olive, Bang&Olufsen, etc. 
Everyone else who doesn't give a crap how their music sounds is either
listening on their crappy laptop speakers, or running a DLNA system
through their TV or maybe Blu-Ray player through a $300 home theatre
sound system.

Another option is integrated network audio with AV receivers like the
Denons.  They do uPNP but can play back FLAC.  And of course they all
do AirPlay as well.  

I'm not sure how Squeezebox exists in the marketplace long term except
as a niche player, and I don't know if Logitech wants to operate them
like that.  I'm not sure where Slim Devices would be if they hadn't
sold.  Sonos has a defining characteristic with their mesh networking
and variety of devices.  Logitech should have that too with the
different Squeezeboxes, but the complications of the server side are a
barrier for some.


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Re: [slim] Performance of SQLite and large databases

2011-08-07 Thread kappclark

Is it possible to split the library up ?? It may be convenient to keep
that many tracks in one folder, but why not split them up ?

This may not be possible (I have nevr tried it, but then again, I only
have a 65GB library!)


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Re: [slim] 'Turn All Players Off' function

2011-08-07 Thread Wirrunna

I'm sure that the Server Power Control plugin could do this, you should
ask in this thread
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521.


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[slim] 'Turn All Players Off' function

2011-08-07 Thread yeomanspc

Does anyone know if there a simple way, from player (or from the web
gui) to turn all players off with one 'command'.  I think it might be
possible with ipeng (but I refuse to buy Apple products).  14
registered devices, it's a p.i.t.a to scroll thru them all (and with
7.6's apparent desire to randomly turn devices on, it would be useful).


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Re: [slim] What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

2011-08-07 Thread pski


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

- Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration
- Improved support for existing online services
- Support for more online services
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Player
  firmware
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in mysqueezebox.com
- Improved browsing of local library
- New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support
- New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music
  without computer
- New Squeezebox hardware with support for video
- New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price


An updated  SB3 with enviable audio specs. I'm more
interested in response than hi-res audio. No touch screen is required:
the SB3/touch remote would be fine.

A boom that was not designed with clock radio in mind. If anyone has
heard small ScanSpeak woofers, you know what I mean. This might require
a real transformer rather than a wall-wart. Otherwise the I/O of the
boom would be fine. As above SB3/touch remote would be better.


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Re: [slim] What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

2011-08-07 Thread funkstar


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

- Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration
- Improved support for existing online services
- Support for more online services
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Player
  firmware
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in mysqueezebox.com
- Improved browsing of local library
- New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support
- New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music
  without computer
- New Squeezebox hardware with support for video
- New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price


Some other variations would be nice. 
- A SqueezeOS based Receiver.
- A larger screen Touch
- Wireless headphones with a SqueezeOS player embedded in them (I
suggested this years ago, stripped down Controller built into a set of
round ear headphones).


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Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread Goodsounds

For transport of music as with most things, there's no one solution to
meet all needs.

My SB assemblage (now consisting of 2 SB3s, a Boom, and a Touch) has
been rock-solid and trouble free for years. A friend who lives nearby
has never gotten his system stabilized. Another friend had a Sonos
system and replaced it out of frustration. Others I know with Sonos
systems are satisfied.

Everyone is different, every situation is different. It's not unusual
to have to try different approaches until you find what works for you.
Good luck.


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Re: [slim] What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

2011-08-07 Thread OldCoder


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89397

Question: What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

- Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration
- Improved support for existing online services
- Support for more online services
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Player
  firmware
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in mysqueezebox.com
- Improved browsing of local library
- New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support
- New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music
  without computer
- New Squeezebox hardware with support for video
- New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price


I'd like to see a new device that is a cross between the Transporter and
the Touch.  

It would have the shape of a traditional audio device, use wall current
without a wall-wart, have a display like the Touch (but perhaps not
touch sensitive) and be silent.  

The remote would be like the Touch remote to control things.

The additional space in the device would support a more powerful
processor and a small SSD for the software and the library.  The
library would be on one (or more) external USB3 drive.  The device
could either contain a DAC or connect to a DAC.  The processor should
be capable of rebuilding a library of 20,000 tracks within 15 minutes.

So, it could be used as a regular part of an audio system.  Perhaps the
server software would still be used with a computer to build the
contents of the external hard drive.  This would be how tagging gets
corrected etc, so you would know that the library was CLEAN before it
was attached to the device.

So, Logitech already has everything they need to build and sell this.
They could sell this as a entry item as decribed, or a high end item by
adding a second SSD internally for the library.  Its wired / wireless
network connectivity would be used to refresh software and provide
streaming radio access to the Internet.

If it was had a large touchscreen it could compete with SOOLOOS.


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Re: [slim] Performance of SQLite and large databases

2011-08-07 Thread Phil Meyer
Is it possible to time how long it takes to browse the library using SQLite and 
MySQL engines, or is it not possible to get a scan to complete to a satifactory 
level with MySQL DB?  i.e. if artwork was turned off, for example?

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Re: [slim] What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

2011-08-07 Thread Mark Miksis


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89397

Question: What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

- Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration
- Improved support for existing online services
- Support for more online services
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Player
  firmware
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in mysqueezebox.com
- Improved browsing of local library
- New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support
- New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music
  without computer
- New Squeezebox hardware with support for video
- New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price


Muele;647862 Wrote: 
> Basically I need a sign from Logitech that Squeezebox has a future.

I suspect this is a common sentiment.


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Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread kweller

kweller;647730 Wrote: 
>   I'm sitting here looking once again at the Squeezebox displaying
> the track information for the song it just played rather than the one
> it's currently playing. Moose is displaying the same incorrect
> information. Reinstalling Squeezebox Server, rescanning, rebooting have
> made no difference, the display is off in a few hours.  I think I'm
> finally going to give Sonos a try as I'm sick of battling with
> Squeezebox, I want something that just works.
> 
> As I typed this the Squeezebox switched to the correct track, it must
> know it's time has come and has implemented counter measures! But what
> is this 'Coming up next' rubbish that always says 'Mariliion' even
> though it isn't?

Displaying the correct track information didn't last long so I reverted
to 7.5.3 whereupon the track information was OK again as if by magic. I
think I'll stay on this release until there are sufficient coppers in
the bank to replace the kit.

Kevin


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Re: [slim] Performance of SQLite and large databases

2011-08-07 Thread Philip Meyer

JJZolx;647828 Wrote: 
> Here are the results of the first test with a 260,000 file library.

I've plotted those figures on a graph.

Interesting - it shows that SQLite isn't linear - performance gets
slightly worse as the library size increases, whereas MySQL is very
close to linear.

Obviously, this is a small sample size ;-)

This does seem to match my experience - 40,000 songs, MySQL and SQLite
scan times about the same.


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Re: [slim] What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

2011-08-07 Thread grestorn


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

- Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration
- Improved support for existing online services
- Support for more online services
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Player
  firmware
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in mysqueezebox.com
- Improved browsing of local library
- New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support
- New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music
  without computer
- New Squeezebox hardware with support for video
- New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price


Actually, if they fix the current problems (which are not affecting me
too bad anyway), I'd be happy. There is no reason that the platform
needs to become even better to be a good solution for me. 

It would be nice, certainly. But if I buy a fridge, I don't expect it
to become a heater with an update, do I? So why would I expect that
with my Squeezeboxes. They should work as advertized, that would be
enough for me.


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Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-07 Thread LeftToMyOwnDevices

Last I checked (couple weeks ago), WMP doesn't do flac. I didn't
investigate further so there may turn out to be a workaround or fix
that I am unaware of.


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Re: [slim] What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

2011-08-07 Thread Muele


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: What would make you buy another Squeezebox ?

- Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration
- Improved support for existing online services
- Support for more online services
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Player
  firmware
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in mysqueezebox.com
- Improved browsing of local library
- New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support
- New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music
  without computer
- New Squeezebox hardware with support for video
- New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price


I checked all new hardware boxes.

Basically I need a sign from Logitech that Squeezebox has a future.


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phones have more cpu-power these days, but it gets the job done).

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Re: [slim] Performance of SQLite and large databases

2011-08-07 Thread erland

JJZolx;647828 Wrote: 
> 
> These times were from the initial scans launched by starting up the
> server with an empty cache folder and (in the case of MySQL) an empty
> database. Both scans probably benefited from system caching, since I
> ran them soon after generating the library itself. I ran the MySQL scan
> first, so the SQLite scan, if anything, would have benefited more from
> caching.
> 
Would it be easy for you to run the one of the tests also with 7.5.6 ?
Reason being that it would be a bit interesting to know how 7.5.6 with
MySQL compares with 7.6.1 with SQLite.

If it's easy to repeat the tests, it would also be interesting to see
how much difference the "Database Memory Config" parameter in SBS
Settings/Advanced/Performance makes.

I think I'll try to run the 50k and 100k test libraries I published
earlier in my setup to see if I get similar result as you do.

Finally, are your tests on Windows, Linux or OSX ? I'm guessing it's
Windows ?


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Re: [slim] The 7.6.x lingering issues thread

2011-08-07 Thread Nick_G

Found something in the Advanced menu mentioning an update for SBS Server
on mysqueezebox.com, so downloaded it. When it restarted it prompted me
with a message saying that a new download was available (the same one)!
So I let it carry on and download it again and when it restarted for a
second time I chose 'Favourites'. Couldn't find them so it then
switched to mysqueezebox.com (hooray!) and appeared to connect although
some of the icons were grey squares. Something's gone wrong though as it
just says 'can't connect - failed to parse' if I try to go to
Favourites. The whole thing is behaving as thought it's FUBARed.

Why can't we have the ability to just be able to do all this from the
Squeezebox itself and not have to keep switching libraries? I wonder if
the fact that it sees different things depending on whether it's using
the LAN or the WAN has confused it by downloading updates multiple
times and it has now screwed something up?

Next time I'm going to wait until the Squeezebox prompts me for an
update. It's the only way to keep things working properly.


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Re: [slim] The 7.6.x lingering issues thread

2011-08-07 Thread Nick_G

Aaaagh!

I've been trying to sort out a new problem this evening, in that on
some streams the '+' (More Info) button wasn't working ('Couldn't
connect to a non http address' error or something like that). So I
updated to the new nightly build and downloaded it onto the Mac. The
Squeezebox didn't see the update as it was pointing to
mysqueezebox.com. So I switched libraries to the Mac and it detected a
new download of SBS (still labelled 7.6.0 followed by a build no -
possibly the same one it was already using on mysqueezebox.com).

It all works beautifully when using the Mac LAN but can I get get it
back to point to mysqueezebox.com? Can I hell! If I choose 'Favourites'
or 'My Music' when the Mac is asleep it still tries to connect to the
LAN. It then prompts me to either try again or switch libraries. If I
choose the latter it tries to connect to the LAN again! So I can now
only use the Squeezebox when the computer is awake, although it will
continue to play any internet streams that are running. Not very
helpful. I'm sure in the past it switched over to mysqueezebox.com.

Any ideas on how to get it pointing back there so I can run it
independently of the Mac again?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Regards,
Nick


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Re: [slim] The 7.6.x lingering issues thread

2011-08-07 Thread testmatch

MeSue;647460 Wrote: 
> 
> If you still have issues with 7.6.1 *and you have tried the latest
> nightlies* (listed below), please summarize your issues here.
> 
> 

Now I think I understand my problems with 7.6.1 I'll do that here as
well as in
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=647829#post647829

I've tried 7.6.1r33004 on a PPC Mac running OS X 10.5.8.

I can play anything on my Squeezebox Classic (i.e. with a VFD that
doesn't display artwork). However as soon as I do anything that tries
to display (or possibly resize) artwork in the web interface or on my
Duet's Controller, the server crashes. Starting it from the terminal
shows the following in the log when playing a file and then trying to
display the artwork:

[11-08-07 15:36:38.0850] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (83)
Artwork request: music/0/cover_96x96_p
[11-08-07 15:36:38.0887] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (122)
Resize specification: 96x96_p
[11-08-07 15:36:38.0914] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (218) No
cover found, translated to html/images/cover_96x96_p.png
[11-08-07 15:36:38.0955] Slim::Web::Graphics::_cached (68) from cache:
png (4267 bytes for html/images/cover_96x96_p.png)
[11-08-07 15:36:38.2730] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (83)
Artwork request: music/0/cover_96x96_p.png
[11-08-07 15:36:38.2772] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (122)
Resize specification: 96x96_p.png
[11-08-07 15:36:38.2793] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (218) No
cover found, translated to html/images/cover_96x96_p.png
[11-08-07 15:36:38.2832] Slim::Web::Graphics::_cached (68) from cache:
png (4267 bytes for html/images/cover_96x96_p.png)
[11-08-07 15:36:44.3536] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (83)
Artwork request: music/0d5b9d5d/cover_96x96_p.png
[11-08-07 15:36:44.3565] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (122)
Resize specification: 96x96_p.png
[11-08-07 15:36:44.3609] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (304)
Resizing: /Users/john/Music/Amazon MP3/Aidan O'Rourke/An Tobar/01 - An
Tobar.mp3 using spec 96x96_p.png
[11-08-07 15:36:44.4343] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1236) Warning:
[15:36:44.4295] Reading tags from audio file...
[11-08-07 15:36:44.4510] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1236) Warning:
[15:36:44.4505] Loading image from /Users/john/Music/Amazon MP3/Aidan
O'Rourke/An Tobar/01 - An Tobar.mp3
[11-08-07 15:36:44.5158] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1236) Warning:
[15:36:44.5151] Resizing from 600x600 jpg @ 239 to 96x96
[11-08-07 15:36:44.5785] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1236) Warning:
[15:36:44.5780] Cached music/0d5b9d5d/cover_96x96_p.png (23954 bytes)
[11-08-07 15:36:44.5822] Slim::Web::Graphics::_cached (68) from cache:
png (23954 bytes for music/0d5b9d5d/cover_96x96_p.png)
[11-08-07 15:36:44.6716] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (83)
Artwork request: music/0d5b9d5d/cover_50x50_o
[11-08-07 15:36:44.6745] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (122)
Resize specification: 50x50_o
[11-08-07 15:36:44.6781] Slim::Web::Graphics::artworkRequest (304)
Resizing: /Users/john/Music/Amazon MP3/Aidan O'Rourke/An Tobar/01 - An
Tobar.mp3 using spec 50x50_o
[11-08-07 15:36:44.6815] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1236) Warning:
[15:36:44.6811] Reading tags from audio file...
[11-08-07 15:36:44.6863] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1236) Warning:
[15:36:44.6858] Loading image from /Users/john/Music/Amazon MP3/Aidan
O'Rourke/An Tobar/01 - An Tobar.mp3
[11-08-07 15:36:44.6905] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1236) Warning:
[15:36:44.6900] Resizing from 600x600 jpg @ 239 to 50xX
Bogus input colorspace

Other than not this stopping me from using the web interface Touch or
Controller, it works fine!

Does anyone know how to prevent artwork from being displayed other than
by deleting it all? I can't see a setting in the web interface.


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Re: [slim] Performance of SQLite and large databases

2011-08-07 Thread JJZolx

Here are the results of the first test with a 260,000 file library. The
Flac files are all 10 seconds of silence, then tagged exactly as my
real Flac library. What I did to generate the library was to duplicate
the albums in my  32.7k file library multiple times, changing the album
and folder name each time by appending a number 01, 02, etc. All of the
tagging is identical otherwise. Covers were also copied to the
library's folders.

These times were from the initial scans launched by starting up the
server with an empty cache folder and (in the case of MySQL) an empty
database. Both scans probably benefited from system caching, since I
ran them soon after generating the library itself. I ran the MySQL scan
first, so the SQLite scan, if anything, would have benefited more from
caching.

Instead of giving total scan time, I'll list the time it took for the
'Discovering Files' pass and the 'Scanning new files' pass at 1/4, 1/2
and all the way through the library. This is mostly because the MySQL
scan must be aborted during the precaching of artwork, so a total time
can't be had, but it also shows how both slow down as the library
database grows, but SQLite it much more affected.


Code:


  MySQL
  
  Discovering files   1:59
  Scanning new @ 65k files5:40
  Scanning new @ 130k files  12:17
  Scanning new @ 260k files  26:12
  
  SQLite
  
  Discovering files   1:40
  Scanning new @ 65k files9:08
  Scanning new @ 130k files  26:49
  Scanning new @ 260k files1:12:17
  



Second run, this time running full scans from the Basic Settings page
in the web ui. Similar results.


Code:


  MySQL
  
  Scanning new @ 260k files  27:11
  
  SQLite
  
  Scanning new @ 260k files1:15:41
  



I should note that the above results do not jive with what I see when
scanning my 32.7k file library, where SQLite is faster.


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Re: [slim] 7.6.1 r32969 nightly build -> Cover art works again! Wohhoo!

2011-08-07 Thread SamS

Latest nightly fixed my missing art, too.


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Re: [slim] Is there a Windows application to control a Squeezebox?

2011-08-07 Thread Meatpuck

havoc1;643743 Wrote: 
> Does moose or anything else work with Triode's Spotify plugin?

Good question! I tried Moose and I can access Spotify through the
"online radio / music services" like on the controller. 
I can't find a way to make a search though so its not very useful...


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Re: [slim] SBS 7.6 and Fishbone Interface

2011-08-07 Thread slate

#2 No problems for the server as it is user interface, but some things
might not work in Fishbone


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Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread GeeJay

erland;647719 Wrote: 
> I think you can do it by integrating with iTunes and use iTunes smart
> playlists, but Sonos still doesn't support ratings natively as far as I
> understand:
> http://forums.sonos.com/showthread.php?p=135291#post135291

It doesn't sound like Sonos has any interest in program changes that
allow rating "on the fly".  One of the features I really like about
TrackStat is the ability to do that, as well as automatically rate
previously unrated tracks.


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Re: [slim] SBS 7.6 and Fishbone Interface

2011-08-07 Thread Charles Stanton
I did see that - but it does not answer #2 or #3.

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 3:36 AM, andynormancx <
andynormancx.4y3a9b1312702...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

>
> If you had searched for "fishbone" before posting you would have found
> this thread:
>
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89041&highlight=fishbone
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Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread amcluesent

>Could you give some examples ?<

No hi-rez file support
65,000 track limit
No BBC Radio 3 HD streaming
No balanced output (on the Transporter) 

But, yep, the Duet Receiver was a lemon.


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-08-07 Thread Siduhe

pippin Wrote: 
> Browser
> * There is now an (internet) browser under "Extras" that you can use to
> browse and play music from web sites on your Squeezebox. I love that I
> can no read music blogs like Stereogum and listen to the stuff they
> link right away
> * Each page driven by a browser (including facebook and Wikipedia) now
> has it's owm URL entry field and "pull to refresh" feature (iOs 4 and
> newer only).

Just wanted to post and say this is an amazing new feature - something
I've been wanting for ages and it works brilliantly.  We listen to a
lot of podcasts and this makes it really simple to try new ones out.


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[slim] How to install 7.6.1 on Ubuntu

2011-08-07 Thread SilverRS8

I've changed the sources.list file to refer to testing main however when
doing an update -> upgrade or apt-get install squeezeboxserver it says
it has the current version. Are the nightly updates switched off?


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[slim] Can't resolve IP address for www.mysqueezebox.com

2011-08-07 Thread jamesrfisher

I got a Touch on Thursday and has been working brilliantly until this
morning. Sorted out a last.fm account and was using. Decided wanted to
listen to something through Spotify and now keep getting the above
message. Any ideas? Are  there problems with the main server? Problems
with my touch? 

Help!


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Re: [slim] iPeng update: Let your Squeezebox get Social

2011-08-07 Thread sadglad

I did the same as it says in the instructions but it took a long time
before the restore previous purchase worked on the iPhone, it works now
though. Thanks.

I like that I now can do almost everything in the iPeng app, it's my
main music controller in this house :)


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Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread DaveWr

The biggest difference is Sonos are committed to their product line,
with resources etc.  Logitech are not, a few diehard engineers are, but
that doesn't provide a secure future direction.


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Re: [slim] So, what exactly is the future of streaming audio going to be?

2011-08-07 Thread verypsb

Muele;646864 Wrote: 
> On the negative side, Sonos has a limit on the size of the library
> supported. Around 65.000 tracks, depending on how they're tagged.

On the Sonos forums I was shocked to read that 65.000 tracks is a
'theoretical' maximum. It can be as low as 40.000 tracks, depending on
your tags. So absolutely a no go for me. (And Sonos show no sign of
fixing this either, its a limit of the hardware. As a workaround you
can use Windows Media Player as your library.)


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Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread kweller

Cipro;647678 Wrote: 
>   I picked the wrong horse...im mad and sad...and frustrated..
> 
> I picked Betamax..VHS won...

I've been with this kit since the first Squeezebox and currently have
five Squeezebox 3s and a Touch. I came to the same conclusion as you
some time ago. I don't install beta versions of Squeezecenter* but I do
install released versions just to maintain support. Every time I install
one something or other seems to go wrong.

(*I made an exception with 5.6.1 after looking at the posts on here.)

The only thing that has stopped me jumping ship is that wireless in
this house, even with repeaters, is horrible. I'm sitting here looking
once again at the Squeezebox displaying the track information for the
song it just played rather than the one it's currently playing. Moose
is displaying the same incorrect information. Reinstalling Squeezebox
Server, rescanning, rebooting have made no difference, the display is
off in a few hours.  I think I'm finally going to give Sonos a try as
I'm sick of battling with Squeezebox, I want something that just
works.

As I typed this the Squeezebox switched to the correct track, it must
know it's time has come and has implemented counter measures! But what
is this 'Coming up next' rubbish that always says 'Mariliion' even
though it isn't?

Kevin

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Re: [slim] Performance of SQLite and large databases

2011-08-07 Thread arztde

I like to point to an exact comparison of the MySQL and SQLite in the
German Forums. Maybee MrFloppy can give some comments in English here.

After Compare the 2 database the result is clear for the SQLite. 

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89118


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Re: [slim] Performance of SQLite and large databases

2011-08-07 Thread erland

Philip Meyer;647712 Wrote: 
> 
> I'm not sure how the scanner works now, but assume it needs to read
> content back out of the DB when deciding how to process each file
> scanned.  As it looks like there aren't any tidy-up phases any more, it
> must be running queries or reading content back out to determine if
> adding a new song to an album, whether the album should become a
> compilation, etc.
> 
As far as I can see from the code it does some reading, but to know for
sure one would have to enable logging on the database.

Philip Meyer;647712 Wrote: 
> 
> If that is the case, the scanner is going to become increasingly
> inefficient as the number of songs increases.
> 
I have a generated library with 50 000 very small FLAC files and I can
scan that within 10-15 minutes.

I also did some test with a generated library with same size as my
normal FLAC library with 3500 tracks and the result were:
- Real library (91 GB): full rescan 92 seconds
- flactruncate.pl library (31 MB): full rescan 32 seconds
- My random generated flac library (15 MB): full rescan 25 seconds

So the scanning time is greatly affected by the file size. If the FLAC
file size results in a linear performance loss related to library size,
it would mean that a 50 000 FLAC library would take about 25-40 minutes
in my setup.

I'm not sure if JJZolx is using a generated library with full size FLAC
files or if it's a library with small FLAC files.

One thing that should be mentioned is that my generated library doesn't
have any album covers, so if the performance is somehow related to
artwork handling that won't be seen in my tests, at least not until
I've added album covers to the test library.

If there is an interest, I'll try to run some more tests in my
environment with different library sizes. However, I can't run
realistic tests of scanning performance because of limited disc space
to store full size FLAC files, but I can run tests to compare
SQLite/MySQL with small FLAC files or to compare browsing performance
which should be independent of FLAC file size.

The only issue is that I only have a virtual environment, so it's not
going to be 100% accurate and comparable with a real environment.


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Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread erland

GeeJay;647708 Wrote: 
> Last I checked, the system didn't support ratings in the same way your
> plugins allow for Squeezebox.  I use random playlists that allow for
> higher rated tracks to play more frequently. Some of these dynamic
> playlists can get pretty narrow in focus: Christmas, the British
> Invasion years (1963-1970), Early Rock & Roll (1954-1962). Sonos may
> very well offer all that now, but it didn't when I was shopping for a
> system.
> 
I think you can do it by integrating with iTunes and use iTunes smart
playlists, but Sonos still doesn't support ratings natively as far as I
understand:
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Re: [slim] Thinking about switching to Sonos (for a Restaurant)

2011-08-07 Thread Sike

aubuti;647621 Wrote: 
> I don't see how that changes anything in JJZolx's post. Then put the
> speakers on shelves or wall brackets or something, with individual
> volume controls per zone. If you can't pull the speaker cable through
> the wall then use some of the nearly invisible speaker wire that is now
> available and run it along the baseboard. You could even find/make
> attractive boxes for the volume pots.

The S5s have more than enough oompf to fillthe rooms. Its now also
possibe for all the servers to dock their ipod/iphones and listen to
their music. 

Everything is handled through an iPad and works. I think it changes
everything.


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Re: [slim] SBS 7.6 and Fishbone Interface

2011-08-07 Thread andynormancx

If you had searched for "fishbone" before posting you would have found
this thread:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89041&highlight=fishbone


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I SAID ALL OF THEM !

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