Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread bhaagensen

SlimChances wrote: 
 I really can't fath
 om why people would want to destroy the experience of being away from
 civilization and in nature by bringing technology with them. I realize
 most of you don't understand my view point and say it can just be turned
 off.
 

Maybe I don't understand, because you haven't written anything which
actually *explains* your point - the why's and how's? Only given
variation of the same negative *effect* - which essentially is that: 

the present now can't be enjoyed if one has access to a smart phone!

Thats simply not true.

Anyhow, while there certainly are interesting aspects to this
discussion, its also sort of irrelevant. My kid has been playing with
iPhone since two and her kindergarden have iPads and stuff - and its
like this many places. Smart phones and such are as natural as a kettle
of water to them. I'm convinced they won't be worse off than any other
generation before them.



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread cliveb

ModelCitizen wrote: 
 At one time or another I've used my iPhone for all of these things and I
 frequently use it to identify things (for the last few days mostly
 edible mushrooms) I spend a lot of time outside as I live in the middle
 of the countryside. It has made my outdoor experiences much richer, not
 to mention safer.
The most interesting thing about your post is the fact that you live in
the middle of the countryside and apparently get a decent 3G signal. You
must be living in some kind of alternate universe were the promises of
Vodafone/O2/etc are actually delivered! :-)



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread ModelCitizen

You didn't find the cow in the river more interesting then?

There is only 02 here, but it works. I do live in a slightly elevated
position, and it is in East Sussex.
The fungi and birdwatching apps, the torch and many others do not depend
upon a phone signal, and neither does Viewranger (the great OS map app).
GPS is often more important than the phone signal too.

I think the important thing is that, signal or no signal,  in such a
small device you have a whole rucksack full of useful utilities. Call it
travelling light.

The only way a smart phone will destroy your experience of being outside
is if you let it, actually not even if you let it... if you make it so.



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Re: [slim] Error playing mp3s from ReadyNas

2012-10-29 Thread rolski

Which kind of ReadyNAS ?  How much RAM ?  Any other add-ons installed ? 
Latest firmware ?  Which version of SBS / LMS ?  Etc



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread StridingEdge

ModelCitizen wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 The only way a smart phone will destroy your experience of being outside
 is if you let it, actually not even if you let it... if you make it so.I 
 couldn't agree more!

I have similar uses for my smartphone - except I don't have so many
specialist apps. My phone has limited storage so I keep my apps to the
minimum but do use internet for things like bird recognition (RSPB). I
wouldn't be without the phone in the outdoors but it's not for the
traditional reasons. I walk anything from 30 to 60 miles a week with my
dog and use the GPS in the phone to track our distances. I have a couple
of walking apps which show both the sublime and the ridiculous. One is
called My Tracks, whcih is a Google linked app and came pre-loaded on
the phone. It does not have OS mapping but has a very simple road map
style that has no terrain detail (well, no detail at all actually) but
you can easily upload your walk to Google maps. However, it is not
accurate - and you can see it zig-zagging all over the place as you
traverse your route. My lady has the same on her phone and we did a
test. Over a short distance we both used the app and then compared notes
afterwards - mine stated I had done 4 miles whilst hers stated 2.5!!!
Now the second app is rather different in pretty much every way to that.
It is called MM Tracker and uses Memory Map .qct mapping. It has full
functionality of that of a dedicated GPS and has the full OS map with
all the required detail. It has proven to be (I'd hesitate to claim any
GPS was 100% accurate) highly trustworthy, both in current location and
distance travelled. When you compare the monthly charge of £8, the free
Smartphone and the cost of the app (£5 or 6), it is a pretty useful
tool. I would stress that I can map-read and use a compass and don't use
the app for route finding, as such. Where it is useful when you are in
the mountains, is when a top has lots of knobbly lumps and the actual
summit is unclear - the GPS can show you which it is. Otherwise, I just
use it to track our daily walk distance and for that it is brilliant.

I do have other outdoor apps for weather (again, very helpful as a GUIDE
and not to be taken seriously) and various one relating to British hills
and mountains. Other than that, a couple of music ones - Shazam and
Soundhound (which must be familiar here) and a brilliant one called
TuneIn Radio which gives me pretty much any radio station available on
the internet.

I find the idea that a phone and the outdoors are incompatible with
experiencing peace, solitude or wilderness. My phone is used as a backup
and a backup only when I am in the mountains. I don't think about it as
a phone but it's there if I wanted to use it in an emergency
(notwithstanding the unreliable signal). Even the most careful and
experienced mountain people step on a boulder and break an ankle. That
said, responsible us of the phone is paramount when using it outdoors. I
have seen many cases of idiots going ill-prepared and ill-equipped who
call mountain rescue because they are tired or because they are lost,
often when their mobile phone has no signal or because they are using
road-style GPS, or even because they don't know how to use it. There is
also an etiquette issue - I would not allow myself to get to a top and
then call the missus and say you'll never guess where I am! at the top
of my voice. I also would not want to listen to music in the outdoors,
even though I have some uploaded to the phone. I prefer the sounds of
the countryside to music and much prefer to hear the wind in the grass,
the bleat of distant sheep and the odd raven or buzzard.

If you want to ensure that the phone remains unobtrusive outdoors, there
is a very simple method to ensure that remains so - don't give people
your number! My mobile is known by my garage, doctor and dentist, none
of whom phone me but just text messages). Other than that it's one mate
and my missus and that's it.



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread ModelCitizen

Shame about the lack of storage. otherwise it sounds like ViewRanger
would be right up your street. I also walk a lot in the countryside (and
have dog too). I use it to report the position of Sea Trout redds
(photo, point on map, description, email to local Rivers Trust)... and
in a similar way rare species to the local Wild Life Trust. The GPS is
every bit as accurate as the dedicated GPS devices used by some other
Rivers Trust volunteers.



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread StridingEdge

ModelCitizen wrote: 
 Shame about the lack of storage. otherwise it sounds like ViewRanger
 would be right up your street..Looks very similar to MM Tracker. You have to 
 buy the maps though I
presume?



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread ModelCitizen

When i got it for the iPhone it was £15 (over 3 times the price of my
next most expensive app!) and it came with a good number of credits for
OS map tiles. Three years later and I've still not exhausted my credit.
I have much of East and West Sussex as either 50 or 25 (or both) scales
and also South and North Cornwall.

I think they may have changed the way the licensing works now. It's
certainly not the same on Android anyway.



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread StridingEdge

I'll PM you...



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Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP

2012-10-29 Thread tamanaco

cparker wrote: 
 I'm with Mnyb on this one, it sounds like MIP is up after LMS.  Makes no
 difference once they are both up but will throw the notification during
 startup

Just to clarify... I agree that the MIP process might start after
the LMS process during the computer startup (reboot). But... when I stop
and then restart LMS the MIP process is still up and running, yet I
still get the fetching filter message during the LMS Server processes
restart. Is this what you also experience?



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[slim] ports, firewall, and server discovery

2012-10-29 Thread bobkoure

What ports are used for server discovery?

I live in a cohousing community, we have our own networking. My home is
on its own network, and I have the community network in a DMZ.
I currently have the following ports 'open'
TCP: 3483, 9000, 9090
UDP: 3483

Using SqueezeCommander and SqueezePlayer, I can connect to my server
manually, but, if possible, I'd like to get auto discovery working. I
know it works if I just connect my server directly to my community
network, but I'd prefer to keep some firewall protection.

Is there another port I need to open to get auto discovery to work?
Something else?

Thanks!



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Re: [slim] ports, firewall, and server discovery

2012-10-29 Thread Mnyb

Afaik udp 3483 is the auto discovery port , and it is broadcasted .

If you firewall or NAT it in a router or similar you may have to port
forward to the server machine , if the fw is on the server just open
those ports .

Normally for auto discovery to work server and squeezebox should be on
the same network .



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Re: [slim] ports, firewall, and server discovery

2012-10-29 Thread pippin

UDP broadcast needs to work, that may be the problem here.



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Re: [slim] Register spare Touch?

2012-10-29 Thread ply3908

cparker wrote: 
 Up to you, you dont need to register it for it to work locally.

Right.  You can keep it in wrapped box if you think you might want to
sell it later.  You will get a better price for it.  But I opened mine. 
Did all the update and settings identical to the one I am using.  Tested
it out then put it back to the box.



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread andynormancx

Julf wrote: 
 The ringing silencer only works if the phone is capable of proper
 multitasking... :-/

It does ?



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Re: [slim] Moving on...

2012-10-29 Thread Julf

andynormancx wrote: 
 It does ?

As in if an incoming call still interrupts other applications despite
being muted, it will be annoying...



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Re: [slim] Register spare Touch?

2012-10-29 Thread cjfreitag

I opened my spare and registered it. Then I decided it could have a nice
home in my downstairs office, so it is no longer officially a spare.
I've decided to live for today...I could get hit by a bus long before
Squeezebox Apocalypse finally hits. In the meantime, now I can enjoy
music streamed to 4 different areas of my house!



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Re: [slim] Register spare Touch?

2012-10-29 Thread RonM

cjfreitag wrote: 
 I opened my spare and registered it. Then I decided it could have a nice
 home in my downstairs office, so it is no longer officially a spare.
 I've decided to live for today...I could get hit by a bus long before
 Squeezebox Apocalypse finally hits. In the meantime, now I can enjoy
 music streamed to 4 different areas of my house!

+1 to that attitude.

Ron.



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Re: [slim] ports, firewall, and server discovery

2012-10-29 Thread bobkoure

Sounds like it. And broadcast doesn't get forwarded across subnets.
I know a way around this with cisco gear, but not with snapgear
(basically linux). Ah, well...

BTW I would -guess- this works like a lot of other services (e.g. DHCP,
DNS) where the broadcast comes from the (soon to be) client; response
comes from servers that hear the request; server selects a responding
server based on some criteria.



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