Re: [slim] Moving on...
SlimChances wrote: I really can't fath om why people would want to destroy the experience of being away from civilization and in nature by bringing technology with them. I realize most of you don't understand my view point and say it can just be turned off. Maybe I don't understand, because you haven't written anything which actually *explains* your point - the why's and how's? Only given variation of the same negative *effect* - which essentially is that: the present now can't be enjoyed if one has access to a smart phone! Thats simply not true. Anyhow, while there certainly are interesting aspects to this discussion, its also sort of irrelevant. My kid has been playing with iPhone since two and her kindergarden have iPads and stuff - and its like this many places. Smart phones and such are as natural as a kettle of water to them. I'm convinced they won't be worse off than any other generation before them. bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
ModelCitizen wrote: At one time or another I've used my iPhone for all of these things and I frequently use it to identify things (for the last few days mostly edible mushrooms) I spend a lot of time outside as I live in the middle of the countryside. It has made my outdoor experiences much richer, not to mention safer. The most interesting thing about your post is the fact that you live in the middle of the countryside and apparently get a decent 3G signal. You must be living in some kind of alternate universe were the promises of Vodafone/O2/etc are actually delivered! :-) cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
You didn't find the cow in the river more interesting then? There is only 02 here, but it works. I do live in a slightly elevated position, and it is in East Sussex. The fungi and birdwatching apps, the torch and many others do not depend upon a phone signal, and neither does Viewranger (the great OS map app). GPS is often more important than the phone signal too. I think the important thing is that, signal or no signal, in such a small device you have a whole rucksack full of useful utilities. Call it travelling light. The only way a smart phone will destroy your experience of being outside is if you let it, actually not even if you let it... if you make it so. ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error playing mp3s from ReadyNas
Which kind of ReadyNAS ? How much RAM ? Any other add-ons installed ? Latest firmware ? Which version of SBS / LMS ? Etc rolski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23776 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
ModelCitizen wrote: The only way a smart phone will destroy your experience of being outside is if you let it, actually not even if you let it... if you make it so.I couldn't agree more! I have similar uses for my smartphone - except I don't have so many specialist apps. My phone has limited storage so I keep my apps to the minimum but do use internet for things like bird recognition (RSPB). I wouldn't be without the phone in the outdoors but it's not for the traditional reasons. I walk anything from 30 to 60 miles a week with my dog and use the GPS in the phone to track our distances. I have a couple of walking apps which show both the sublime and the ridiculous. One is called My Tracks, whcih is a Google linked app and came pre-loaded on the phone. It does not have OS mapping but has a very simple road map style that has no terrain detail (well, no detail at all actually) but you can easily upload your walk to Google maps. However, it is not accurate - and you can see it zig-zagging all over the place as you traverse your route. My lady has the same on her phone and we did a test. Over a short distance we both used the app and then compared notes afterwards - mine stated I had done 4 miles whilst hers stated 2.5!!! Now the second app is rather different in pretty much every way to that. It is called MM Tracker and uses Memory Map .qct mapping. It has full functionality of that of a dedicated GPS and has the full OS map with all the required detail. It has proven to be (I'd hesitate to claim any GPS was 100% accurate) highly trustworthy, both in current location and distance travelled. When you compare the monthly charge of £8, the free Smartphone and the cost of the app (£5 or 6), it is a pretty useful tool. I would stress that I can map-read and use a compass and don't use the app for route finding, as such. Where it is useful when you are in the mountains, is when a top has lots of knobbly lumps and the actual summit is unclear - the GPS can show you which it is. Otherwise, I just use it to track our daily walk distance and for that it is brilliant. I do have other outdoor apps for weather (again, very helpful as a GUIDE and not to be taken seriously) and various one relating to British hills and mountains. Other than that, a couple of music ones - Shazam and Soundhound (which must be familiar here) and a brilliant one called TuneIn Radio which gives me pretty much any radio station available on the internet. I find the idea that a phone and the outdoors are incompatible with experiencing peace, solitude or wilderness. My phone is used as a backup and a backup only when I am in the mountains. I don't think about it as a phone but it's there if I wanted to use it in an emergency (notwithstanding the unreliable signal). Even the most careful and experienced mountain people step on a boulder and break an ankle. That said, responsible us of the phone is paramount when using it outdoors. I have seen many cases of idiots going ill-prepared and ill-equipped who call mountain rescue because they are tired or because they are lost, often when their mobile phone has no signal or because they are using road-style GPS, or even because they don't know how to use it. There is also an etiquette issue - I would not allow myself to get to a top and then call the missus and say you'll never guess where I am! at the top of my voice. I also would not want to listen to music in the outdoors, even though I have some uploaded to the phone. I prefer the sounds of the countryside to music and much prefer to hear the wind in the grass, the bleat of distant sheep and the odd raven or buzzard. If you want to ensure that the phone remains unobtrusive outdoors, there is a very simple method to ensure that remains so - don't give people your number! My mobile is known by my garage, doctor and dentist, none of whom phone me but just text messages). Other than that it's one mate and my missus and that's it. StridingEdge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
Shame about the lack of storage. otherwise it sounds like ViewRanger would be right up your street. I also walk a lot in the countryside (and have dog too). I use it to report the position of Sea Trout redds (photo, point on map, description, email to local Rivers Trust)... and in a similar way rare species to the local Wild Life Trust. The GPS is every bit as accurate as the dedicated GPS devices used by some other Rivers Trust volunteers. ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
ModelCitizen wrote: Shame about the lack of storage. otherwise it sounds like ViewRanger would be right up your street..Looks very similar to MM Tracker. You have to buy the maps though I presume? StridingEdge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
When i got it for the iPhone it was £15 (over 3 times the price of my next most expensive app!) and it came with a good number of credits for OS map tiles. Three years later and I've still not exhausted my credit. I have much of East and West Sussex as either 50 or 25 (or both) scales and also South and North Cornwall. I think they may have changed the way the licensing works now. It's certainly not the same on Android anyway. ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
I'll PM you... StridingEdge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
cparker wrote: I'm with Mnyb on this one, it sounds like MIP is up after LMS. Makes no difference once they are both up but will throw the notification during startup Just to clarify... I agree that the MIP process might start after the LMS process during the computer startup (reboot). But... when I stop and then restart LMS the MIP process is still up and running, yet I still get the fetching filter message during the LMS Server processes restart. Is this what you also experience? tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] ports, firewall, and server discovery
What ports are used for server discovery? I live in a cohousing community, we have our own networking. My home is on its own network, and I have the community network in a DMZ. I currently have the following ports 'open' TCP: 3483, 9000, 9090 UDP: 3483 Using SqueezeCommander and SqueezePlayer, I can connect to my server manually, but, if possible, I'd like to get auto discovery working. I know it works if I just connect my server directly to my community network, but I'd prefer to keep some firewall protection. Is there another port I need to open to get auto discovery to work? Something else? Thanks! bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96929 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ports, firewall, and server discovery
Afaik udp 3483 is the auto discovery port , and it is broadcasted . If you firewall or NAT it in a router or similar you may have to port forward to the server machine , if the fw is on the server just open those ports . Normally for auto discovery to work server and squeezebox should be on the same network . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96929 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ports, firewall, and server discovery
UDP broadcast needs to work, that may be the problem here. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96929 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Register spare Touch?
cparker wrote: Up to you, you dont need to register it for it to work locally. Right. You can keep it in wrapped box if you think you might want to sell it later. You will get a better price for it. But I opened mine. Did all the update and settings identical to the one I am using. Tested it out then put it back to the box. ply3908's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38634 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
Julf wrote: The ringing silencer only works if the phone is capable of proper multitasking... :-/ It does ? andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
andynormancx wrote: It does ? As in if an incoming call still interrupts other applications despite being muted, it will be annoying... Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Register spare Touch?
I opened my spare and registered it. Then I decided it could have a nice home in my downstairs office, so it is no longer officially a spare. I've decided to live for today...I could get hit by a bus long before Squeezebox Apocalypse finally hits. In the meantime, now I can enjoy music streamed to 4 different areas of my house! cjfreitag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41363 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Register spare Touch?
cjfreitag wrote: I opened my spare and registered it. Then I decided it could have a nice home in my downstairs office, so it is no longer officially a spare. I've decided to live for today...I could get hit by a bus long before Squeezebox Apocalypse finally hits. In the meantime, now I can enjoy music streamed to 4 different areas of my house! +1 to that attitude. Ron. RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ports, firewall, and server discovery
Sounds like it. And broadcast doesn't get forwarded across subnets. I know a way around this with cisco gear, but not with snapgear (basically linux). Ah, well... BTW I would -guess- this works like a lot of other services (e.g. DHCP, DNS) where the broadcast comes from the (soon to be) client; response comes from servers that hear the request; server selects a responding server based on some criteria. bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96929 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss