[slim] Crackles with USB-DAC and LMS/Squeezelite

2012-12-14 Thread skyron

Hello,

I have a Dockstar (on ArchLinux) running LMS and Squeezelite.

The sound has crackles sometimes like a bad FM reception.

My actual material is a Dockstar, an AudioGD Sparrow has USB-DAC, and a
headphone K701
On the Docstar, I have another USB-Key with MPD and the sound is greeat,
so I think it's a setting problem.

Actually I have asound.conf like this:
 
 pcm.!default {
 type plug
 slave.pcm softvol
 }
 
 pcm.softvol {
 type softvol
 slave { pcm dmixer }
 control {
 name Master
 card 0
 }
 }
 
 pcm.dmixer {
 type dmix
 ipc_key 1024
 slave {
 pcm hw:0
 period_time 0
 period_size 4096
 buffer_size 131072
 rate 44100
 }
 bindings {
 0 0
 1 1
 }
 }
 
 pcm.dsnooper {
 type dsnoop
 ipc_key 1024
 slave {
 pcm hw:0
 channels 2
 period_time 0
 period_size 4096
 buffer_size 131072
 rate 44100
 }
 bindings {
 0 0
 1 1
 }
 }
 
 ctl.!default {
 type hw
 card 0
 }
 
 ctl.softvol {
 type hw
 card 0
 }
 
 ctl.dmixer {
 type hw
 card 0
 }
 

Someone have an idea ?

Thanks
Skyron



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Re: [slim] Crackles with USB-DAC and LMS/Squeezelite

2012-12-14 Thread skyron

oops, someone can move the post, I'm not at the right place !



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Re: [slim] Why does Logitech have client restrictions on Pandora in Australia?

2012-12-14 Thread poohsan

I get the same thing going through a vpn from germany - I got that
message straight away when I tried strongVPN, switched to unoTellyVPN
and it worked for about 15 minutes and then it started giving me the
same message again.

If I try to connect via my local IP I get a different message a la not
available in your country

If I had to guess, pandora is doing a reverse DNS lookup on the IP
address that a client connects from and black lists it if it's a VPN,
but that's my I forgot to put on my tinfoil hat conspiracy guess.

Anyone know any more info?



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Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-12-14 Thread Michael Herger

See also 'The Echo Nest' (http://the.echonest.com/).


Ok, so I did investigate their API a bit (it's extensive!). I do mostly  
compare with MusicIP (which I've been running for years), as I'd like to  
have a replacement for smart mixing my own collection. Tests were run on  
both my dev machine (about 3.5k tracks, MacBook Pro, SSD) as well as my  
main server (20k tracks, Atom based, 2.5 HD).


As The Echo Nest is engine behind most of the larger music services' smart  
features, I did obviously experience some of the same behaviour as using  
those. For the differences to eg. Last.fm and Pandora, see this blog by  
one of the EN founders:


http://notes.variogr.am/post/37675885491/how-music-recommendation-works-and-doesnt-work

After playing with various implementations of smart playlists (MIP,  
Pandora, Last.fm, MOG, iHR, Deezer...) I'm glad he shares some of my  
concerns about them.


Pro TEN:
- little to no installation effort (assuming there's a plugin available -  
stay tuned ;-))

- available on any server hardware, even under-powered NAS devices
- support for Artist (give me music from artists similar to A) and song  
(give me similar tracks) mixes

- faster than MIP, both scanning/uploading as mixing on my (ymmv)
- they have a vast array of well documented options to tweak mixes,  
including BPM, mood, more/less of this artist, hotttness (yes, hottt!)  
etc.
- Big plus for TEN: it's available and maintained today, while MIP is  
dangling on a string


Contra TEN:
- no SB implementation available - yet
- the free API access is limited. Only a number of users would be able to  
use a community driven solution.
- TEN doesn't know all my music, MIP does. I've got spotty mixes even with  
big names like Peter Gabriel.
- I personally prefer MIP's mixes. Exploring some of the more advanced  
parameters might improve this situation.



And here's a bit more information about some of above points:

- TEN requires you to provide them with some information about your local  
music collection (artist name  track titles). These stay stored on their  
servers accessible through some key. If you have privacy concerns: don't  
touch it. (But then we had to upload hashes identifiying our music to MIP  
as well, didn't we?)


- TEN doesn't need to scan your music. If you've got good tags, it's good  
enough to upload that minimum set of metadata plus some key to get things  
started.


- Uploading metadata for about 20k tracks to TEN was much faster on my  
Atom based server than importing the corresponding data from MIP (not to  
mention the scan time MIP needs itself). Creating a 75 track playlist  
seems quicker using TEN than MIP in my case.


- TEN can only mix tracks it knows about. While they claim to have  
information about 30mio tracks, it won't cover your neighbour's recording  
of the previous week. Or some more exotic recordings like eg. the German  
versions Peter Gabriel did of his 3rd and 4th albums. These latter  
wouldn't mix at all. MIP can handle these, as it scans your music, no  
matter what it is. Yes, you can upload such files to TEN to have them  
analyze them, but I doubt this is a reasonable approach.


- Mix quality: IMHO it's easier to have eg a rock guitar mix with MIP  
than with TEN. But then TEN's API is very powerful, and I've only  
scratched its surface. But it's the same feeling I had with many of the  
music services: TEN seems to rely more on meta information like if you  
like artist A, then you might like B as well or periods, whereas MIP is  
based on their analysis of the music itself. Eg. I'm always surprised how  
MIP would queue up live recordings if I did seed it with a live track. It  
must be the audience clapping or something which triggers this.


- TEN has tons of options to tweak. It's great to be able to tweak, but  
providing this in a good UI is difficult.


- The free TEN API access is limited: they only allow a certain number of  
queries per minute (20, upgradeable to 120). FWICT these are shared among  
all installations using the same API key, and they explicitly forbid using  
multiple API keys to work around this issue. OTOH they do mention other  
open source projects which were given less restrictive limits. The same  
applies to a limitation of 1000 profiles and mix session_ids: if I  
implemented a plugin and it became very popular, this might be another big  
issue, as there's at least one profile per installation.



As you can imagine I have not come to these conclusions without some  
coding. Now let's hope I'll find some more time over the Holidays to  
tinker around with this...


--

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Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-14 Thread toby10

WPS is not very secure either.  Easy  simple setup = insecure 
vulnerable network.  Best to disable WPS.
https://windowssecrets.com/top-story/routers-using-wps-are-intrinsically-unsafe/



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Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?

2012-12-14 Thread Antanico

Is your Squeezebox Working today? Or did Logitech suspended all the
network broadcasting and remotely setup?
Thanks
Ant



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Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-14 Thread Mnyb

The sync and gapless issue is interesting .

it's fabled to be possible with upnp/dlna but not many practical
applications devices exists .

I think linnhas solved gapless for upnp .

next Q would that work with another upnp player that also has gapless
support and sync them ?



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Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-12-14 Thread Michael Herger
As you can imagine I have not come to these conclusions without some  
coding. Now let's hope I'll find some more time over the Holidays to  
tinker around with this...


While I was typing those lines my Transporter was playing tunes based on  
some Peter Gabriel track I can't remember, mixing in tracks from Yes,  
Supertramp, Marillion, David Gilmour, Pink Floyd, Toto, Genesis, David  
Bowie, The Police... Almost 80s only. That's what I never liked about  
every smart playlist on all those music services which seem to be  
powered by TEN: They pin down PG to his big 80s hit Sledgehammer. Anything  
before and after that does not exist in their mixes. MIP doesn't do this.


Maybe I should increase the adventurousness value for the mix? Or lift  
the min_energy level? Too many options there...


--

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Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?

2012-12-14 Thread ReValveiT

d6jg wrote: 
 For you the Onkyo dock would be a good move as its also an Airplay
 adapter. A rare beast. 
 You could use the ipad as a player either docked (is ipad3 30 pin?) or
 via airplay - I assume you have some kind of hifi from your comments.

Yea I use a Marantz PM6003 Amp with a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 9.1
speakers. Great combo!

More options:

Marantz CD6004 as it has an iPod digi USB input on the front and can
even charge the iPad. £250

Arcam drDock - has its own DAC plus digital outputs to an external DAC,
if needed. £180

I really want to give that Onkyo a try, but for some reason I'm not
holding out a deal of hope on its sound. I don't want to get it then
have to buy a DAC as well; I just don't have the budget.



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Re: [slim] Andriod apps for controlling Logitech devices. (question)

2012-12-14 Thread Bob in St. Louis

Slight bump...for an update

To date, I have yet to get the Logitech app to play music. Can't figure
out why.

So far, I'm loving the Orange Squeeze app. My first impressions are that
it might just be the best GUI for music playback yet.
I'm certainly thinking it's the best $4 I've ever spent on an app.
With each day that goes by, I have less desire to get the Logitech
software operational.

Bob



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread TheLastMan

I am probably being totally dense and missing the blindingly obvious,
but I cannot find a button for the + context menu anywhere?  

This is available on the browser interface, the hardware Controller and
Squeeze Commander but I cannot find it on Orange Squeeze.  It is a
notable absentee on the official app and it is the only reason why,
despite its horribly un-intuitive user interface, that I continue to use
Squeeze Commander.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread kidstypike

TheLastMan wrote: 
 I am probably being totally dense and missing the blindingly obvious,
 but I cannot find a button for the + context menu anywhere?  
 
 This is available on the browser interface, the hardware Controller and
 Squeeze Commander but I cannot find it on Orange Squeeze.  It is a
 notable absentee on the official app and it is the only reason why,
 despite its horribly un-intuitive user interface, that I continue to use
 Squeeze Commander.

Just press and hold for a second or two on any Artist, Album, Track, or
Album art.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread pippin

TheLastMan wrote: 
 It is a notable absentee on the official app

BTW: you can get that menu in the official App, too. The same way as in
OrangeSqueeze. And indeed also in SqueezeCommander. And on the
Squeezebox Touch :) And in iPeng (that's where it originates from, I
believe).



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread slimhase

db122 wrote: 
 Please, keep your piehole filled with pie. Tis the season. Are you using
 the preview builds? Any fix will make it's appearance there first.
:-)
and  yes - I use / update the preview builds.
Heiner



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread tbessie

Hi there...

So I just installed Orange Squeeze 1.3.1 on my Galaxy Nexus (Android
4.2.1).

Very often (though not every time), when I tried to connect to
mysqueezebox.com or my own LMS server, Orange Squeeze tries to connect,
and then says Timeout waiting for server connection to complete.

Then, other times, it connects.

Is this a known issue?  It is rather frustrating.  Squeeze Commander has
never had any problems connecting in my home environment like this.

- Tim



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread tbessie

After installing Orange Squeeze, I see it has several processes/services
running, even when I'm not using it.  Is there any way to configure it
to NOT have these running if the app is not running in the foreground? I
hate it when apps run all the time like that.

- Tim



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread db122

tbessie wrote: 
 After installing Orange Squeeze, I see it has several processes/services
 running, even when I'm not using it.  Is there any way to configure it
 to NOT have these running if the app is not running in the foreground? I
 hate it when apps run all the time like that.

First off, don't assume that a service running means that there is
anything happening or power drain from the process. It doesn't.

One service runs all the time: the power management service. It simply
receives notifications when the screen turns on and off, wifi comes up
and down, etc. There are no active running threads or connections
associated with this service and it will not take any cpu or draw any
power. There is no way to disable this although you could try
experimenting with task killers, etc. to kill it if you like. It won't
accomplish anything, but do what you like. It will break some of the app
behavior if this service is not running (specifically, power saving
features).

There is a second service and that maintains a connection to the server.
You absolutely need this if you use the widgets at all. If you don't use
the widgets and are OK with the connection being dropped every time
Orange Squeeze moves to the background (any task comes in front of it)
then you can set the connection timeout in the preferences to a very low
value. The default will have the service shut itself down after a minute
or two of the app being in the background (and no widgets).

My advice: before you spent too much time worrying about it, check your
device power management screen to see if the app is actually taking any
significant power. If it's not taking power, then it's also not slowing
your device down because cpu usage = power drain. You can only do these
tests if the device is running off battery, by the way.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread db122

tbessie wrote: 
 
 So I just installed Orange Squeeze 1.3.1 on my Galaxy Nexus (Android
 4.2.1).
 
I have the same device.

 
 Very often (though not every time), when I tried to connect to
 mysqueezebox.com or my own LMS server, Orange Squeeze tries to connect,
 and then says Timeout waiting for server connection to complete.
 
This has been a problem in the past, but I haven't seen it lately. What
server version are you running? FWIW, I start and stop the app dozens of
times per day and don't see it. It doesn't improve your experience --
sorry. :-)

One thing about the Galaxy Nexus is that the Wifi performance/range is
horrible. I had to install a repeater so that I could use the device
reliably in my office, and my Macbook Pro has a very high signal.

It could be that Orange Squeeze is less tolerant of requests that go
unanswered or are lost than Squeeze Commander, or it could be a race
condition that simply doesn't expose itself in my testing. 

The more details I can get about your situation, the better. Enable
Verbose Logging in advanced preferences, and when you get a timeout
situation to occur, go back to preferences and hit submit logs. Fill
in your email address or some other identifier (can just be tbessie) so
that I can associate the requests to you.



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Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-12-14 Thread mherger

 See also 'The Echo Nest' (http://the.echonest.com/).

Ok, so I did investigate their API a bit (it's extensive!). I do mostly
compare with MusicIP (which I've been running for years), as I'd like to
have a replacement for smart mixing my own collection. Tests were run on
both my dev machine (about 3.5k tracks, MacBook Pro, SSD) as well as my
main server (20k tracks, Atom based, 2.5 HD).

As The Echo Nest is engine behind most of the larger music services'
smart features, I did obviously experience some of the same behaviour as
using those. For the differences to eg. Last.fm and Pandora, see this
blog by one of the EN founders:

http://notes.variogr.am/post/37675885491/how-music-recommendation-works-and-doesnt-work

After playing with various implementations of smart playlists (MIP,
Pandora, Last.fm, MOG, iHR, Deezer...) I'm glad he shares some of my
concerns about them.

Pro TEN:
- little to no installation effort (assuming there's a plugin available
- stay tuned ;-))
- available on any server hardware, even under-powered NAS devices
- support for Artist (give me music from artists similar to A) and
song (give me similar tracks) mixes
- faster than MIP, both scanning/uploading as mixing on my (ymmv)
- they have a vast array of well documented options to tweak mixes,
including BPM, mood, more/less of this artist, hotttness (yes, hottt!)
etc.
- Big plus for TEN: it's available and maintained today, while MIP is
dangling on a string

Contra TEN:
- no SB implementation available - yet
- the free API access is limited. Only a number of users would be able
to use a community driven solution.
- TEN doesn't know all my music, MIP does. I've got spotty mixes even
with big names like Peter Gabriel.
- I personally prefer MIP's mixes. Exploring some of the more advanced
parameters might improve this situation.


And here's a bit more information about some of above points:

- TEN requires you to provide them with some information about your
local music collection (artist name  track titles). These stay stored
on their servers accessible through some key. If you have privacy
concerns: don't touch it. (But then we had to upload hashes identifiying
our music to MIP as well, didn't we?)

- TEN doesn't need to scan your music. If you've got good tags, it's
good enough to upload that minimum set of metadata plus some key to get
things started.

- Uploading metadata for about 20k tracks to TEN was much faster on my
Atom based server than importing the corresponding data from MIP (not to
mention the scan time MIP needs itself). Creating a 75 track playlist
seems quicker using TEN than MIP in my case.

- TEN can only mix tracks it knows about. While they claim to have
information about 30mio tracks, it won't cover your neighbour's
recording of the previous week. Or some more exotic recordings like eg.
the German versions Peter Gabriel did of his 3rd and 4th albums. These
latter wouldn't mix at all. MIP can handle these, as it scans your
music, no matter what it is. Yes, you can upload such files to TEN to
have them analyze them, but I doubt this is a reasonable approach.

- Mix quality: IMHO it's easier to have eg a rock guitar mix with MIP
than with TEN. But then TEN's API is very powerful, and I've only
scratched its surface. But it's the same feeling I had with many of the
music services: TEN seems to rely more on meta information like if you
like artist A, then you might like B as well or periods, whereas MIP is
based on their analysis of the music itself. Eg. I'm always surprised
how MIP would queue up live recordings if I did seed it with a live
track. It must be the audience clapping or something which triggers
this.

- TEN has tons of options to tweak. It's great to be able to tweak, but
providing this in a good UI is difficult.

- The free TEN API access is limited: they only allow a certain number
of queries per minute (20, upgradeable to 120). FWICT these are shared
among all installations using the same API key, and they explicitly
forbid using multiple API keys to work around this issue. OTOH they do
mention other open source projects which were given less restrictive
limits. The same applies to a limitation of 1000 profiles and mix
session_ids: if I implemented a plugin and it became very popular, this
might be another big issue, as there's at least one profile per
installation.


As you can imagine I have not come to these conclusions without some
coding. Now let's hope I'll find some more time over the Holidays to
tinker around with this...

While I was typing these lines my Transporter was playing tunes based on
some Peter Gabriel track I can't remember, mixing in tracks from Yes,
Supertramp, Marillion, David Gilmour, Pink Floyd, Toto, Genesis, David
Bowie, The Police... Almost 80s only. That's what I never liked about
every smart playlist on all those music services which seem to be
powered by TEN: They pin down PG to his big 80s hit Sledgehammer.
Anything before and after that does not exist in their 

Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread TheLastMan

kidstypike wrote: 
 Just press and hold for a second or two on any Artist, Album, Track, or
 Album art.
Ah...

I knew it must be there somewhere!

I have turned on the context sensitive tips until I get used to it.
Love the interface by the way, very intelligent use of the space in
portrait mode.



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Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!

2012-12-14 Thread tbessie

db122 - Thanks for all the info!  I won't worry about the background
processes, and will just take your word for it.  You know, old
engineer's habit, suspicion of unknown processes. :-)

As for the connection issues - yeah, I've notice that my Galaxy Nexus
has been having WiFi connectivity issues; they seemed to have gotten
worse when I upgraded to Jelly Bean (and I've seen complaints about this
specific issue online).  I also upgraded my router's firmware around the
same time, so I didn't want to pin it on the phone only, but if others
have had WiFi problems with this device (dropouts when I'm just around
the corner from the router, for example), then that seems a likely
culprit.

I'll keep using Orange Squeeze and see if this keeps happening,
especially when I'm right next to the router.  If it does keep
happening, I'll turn on the log and send it to you.

Thanks again for your voluminous and helpful replies! :-)

- Tim



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2012-12-14 Thread Necromancyr

Just grabbed a copy.  For $3-4 definitely worth it, even to try.

Also,  I have to say that this is a realistic pricing model for this
kind of app/expansion, unlike some developers charging $20 just for a
plugin.  (As my purchasing demonstrates!) :)



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