Re: [slim] Product discontinued - what to do...
erland wrote: Honestly, to me it looks like Squeezebox has been more or less mismanaged during the last 2-3 years, maybe longer. Based on this we can stop hoping for Logitech to resurrect the Squeezebox and make some thing good with it, if it happens they will still focus on other things than we want so it will never be the same product it once was. I think you're extremely right here (unfortunately)... It will be interesting to see what will happen with UE Smart Radio, at the moment a lot of users seems to report a lot of problems and the official Logitech support staff really doesn't seem to have a clue how to help them in many cases. I can't imagine it to become a success with so much complains and so high price compared to the functionality it provides. The best thing with UE Smart Radio is probably that it might prolong the life of mysqueezebox.com, because if Logitech would decide to also stop selling UE Smart Radio they probably don't want to maintain two cloud services and then it's eaiser to convert UE Smart Radio devices to use mysqueezebox.com than the other way around, at least if it happens during the next year or so while there are more Squeezebox users than UE Smart Radio users. My prediction is that it will be a huge failure for Logitech and that they will shut down the UE branch... I'm wondering who gets blamed... First the Revue, now Squeezebox and within 2 years the UE branch... servies's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9496 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97914 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
On 21/01/13 19:10, Andy Hawkins wrote: In article 50f89995.1070...@cdmnet.org, Calum Mackaycalum.mac...@cdmnet.org wrote: any chance you would consider adding a volume control of some sort to the lockscreen plugin, please? Might be hard to add a slider, given space, but up/down buttons would do, perhaps? Apologies if you've tried this, but do the devices volume controls work? that did belatedly occur to me (after I'd send the above) so I then enabled that feature, and tested it worked OK from the app proper, but it didn't work from the lockscreen. but thanks anyway. cheers, c. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
OK, I just followed the excellent step-by-step directions from the Vortexbox.org site and got the VAMP up and running in about 20 minutes. I am about the least Linux-knowledgeable person in the world so if I can do it, anyone can. I'm using a Turtle Beach USB DAC for now and it sounds pretty great for a total investment of around $50. I'm controlling it using the free Logitech Squeezebox iPhone app. Next up is to download iPeng and to order an AudioQuest Dragonfly USB DAC to see if it sounds better than the Turtle Beach. So, as long as you are willing to control from a smartphone app or via the web, this works great and will replace one of my Squeezeboxes that suddenly died. A recommended project and thank you Vortexbox folks for doing this. dyohn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5211 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
I just took the plunge on the ONE, instead of looking at spending $500 on a used Touch. For the last couple of years, I had thought about buying a Touch, just mostly for the color screen. Not for the Touch control. I just don't go over to the Squeezebox to play music. I am usually controlling from the web UI or the Controller. But since the Squeezebox is (apparently) a dead platform (thanks a lot Logitech!), I am moving on. I will still use my Squeezebox and Controller in a bedroom, but if the ONE is everything they claim it will be (even subtracting about 15% that won't happen), I see it as the Squeezebox replacement and it will replace my 6 year old Squeezebox as my living room/housewide music controller. Plus, it's just cool looking. The Sonos never interested me .. plus until recently it was just too darn expensive when there were equal/better alternatives like the Squeezebox family. I have loved the Squeezebox since the SlimDevices days. But Squeezebox Server has been a love/hate deal for me. It WAS the best thing out there in its day. But there were a fair number of shortcomings, and the UI and server would lock up on me so many times when I just wanted to change a song. If Logitech has plans to come out with a Squeezebox replacement (and not talking about the new, crippled SB radio) they had better do it quick. They will lose out their core followers (US) to new competition like the ONE. NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
Hi I just updated to the new version today (preview 1.4.0 -20130116-1120)- but now there is a problem: If you are at the artist page and want to play an album, you often get the album below the one you want to hear: If you have a long press on the cover picture - you always get the album below. If you have a long press on the Album title - you always get the album below. If you press on the triangle (to the right on this screen) - you get the correct album. It is working fine in the non-preview version 1.37. Regards Seen sbp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
sbp wrote: Hi I just updated to the new version today (preview 1.4.0 -20130116-1120)- but now there is a problem: If you are at the artist page and want to play an album, you often get the album below the one you want to hear: If you have a long press on the cover picture - you always get the album below. If you have a long press on the Album title - you always get the album below. If you press on the triangle (to the right on this screen) - you get the correct album. It is working fine in the non-preview version 1.37. Hi there, thanks for reporting. This is a known issue and as you note, the easiest workaround is to use the triangle. That's what I use all the time, which is why the long-press problem wasn't caught earlier. You're going to be seeing lots of turnover and general instability in the preview version for the next month or so, so if your tolerance for bugs is low it's a great time to stick with 1.3.7! :-) db122's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
erland wrote: I'm not that worried, we are probably talking about at least 2 years in the future, probably longer, I'm fairly sure the market will find a solution suitable for our needs by then. It might not be Squeezebox hardware but as long as it offers similar features most of us will be happy to switch to it. For local music LMS will continue to work a long time after MySB servers has been shutdown. Sorry, I'm totally new to the squeezebox arena and this thread has made me a bit worried. I just bought a slim devices squeezebox, and was thinking of getting a few more.. but what is this about the servers dying? What does it mean to an end user? Will I no longer be able to do -anything- with it? Or will streaming from a local media server be OK, but internet radio will be inaccessible? fewleh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58865 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
fewleh wrote: Sorry, I'm totally new to the squeezebox arena and this thread has made me very confused. I just bought a slim devices squeezebox, and was thinking of getting a few more.. but what is this about the servers dying? What does it mean to an end user? Will I no longer be able to do -anything- with it? Or will streaming from a local media server be OK, but internet radio will be inaccessible? Or is there a 3rd party plugin I can install that will let me continue streaming radio etc? Hope someone can clarify for newbies/idiots like myself, thanks :) You'll be Ok with local music, and there are 3rd party plugins for many services, but not all. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
Internet radio where you can directly enter URL (which is true for 99% of my use case) will work after mysb.com goes away. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.
I installed the newest 7.8 and it seem to be solved. But I have another problem: I installed squeezeplay on several PCs and two of them have the same MAC adress in LMS 7.8. PC 1 squeezeplay is using the same Mac adress like PC 2 which is causing collision during the use. My question to RALPHY: How are you reading out the MAC adress? Is this done once during the installation or read out with every start of squeezeplay? I tried several installations but it is not changing to the physical MAC adress of PC 1. How can I change the MAC in your squeezeplay to the correct (physical) adress of PC1? Thank you in advance Musiclover's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34542 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96573 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.
Musiclover wrote: I installed the newest 7.8 and it seem to be solved. But I have another problem: I installed squeezeplay on several PCs and two of them have the same MAC adress in LMS 7.8. PC 1 squeezeplay is using the same Mac adress like PC 2 which is causing collision during the use. My question to RALPHY: How are you reading out the MAC adress? It's the same as the official build, which says this in the code; //take the first found mac address. //todo: can we be smarter about which is the correct address Musiclover wrote: Is this done once during the installation or read out with every start of squeezeplay? I tried several installations but it is not changing to the physical MAC adress of PC 1. How can I change the MAC in your squeezeplay to the correct (physical) adress of PC1? The MAC should be read at every startup. Shut down Squeezeplay and try deleting the userpath folder, mine is located at. C:\Documents and Settings\Ralphy\Application Data\SqueezePlay\userpath and start squeezeplay again. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96573 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Hi guys, I want in on this! I have been thinking a lot about it over the last few months. I am well accomplished at the hardware design part of this. I'm not sure most of you are aware of this but I do part time consulting for high end hiFi companies wanting to get into digitaal audio, I have lots of hardware experience doing just what this project is about and making it into products for low volume production. There seems to be an assumption that you need very high volumes to get low prices, this is not really the case. You need high volumes to get REALLY low price, but medium range prices is can be had for fairly low volumes. For example something along the complexity of the Touch main board, can be manufactured for around $125 in 25 quantity, thats board, parts and assembly. That does NOT include the case, full assembly etc, just the board. At 50 quantity you can get down to $100 a board. I have done designs using off the shelf boards and ones that I have done the whole thing from scratch, my current thinking is that for more than a couple systems it actually winds up being cheaper to do the whole thing from scratch, that way you get EXACTLY what you want. When using an off the shelf board you have to try and shoehorn your design into sombody elses vision, which rarely matches yours exactly. For example, some people around here have mentioned things like IR remotes, if your chosen existing board doesn't have the capability, you either live without it or you have to add a board that does it, and figure out how to connect that into some port on the existing board. When you do the whole thing yourself it is MUCH easier to add things like that directly to the main board. When doing it yourself you have a wide range of options available for including in the device, that would be very difficult to add to an existing board. For example as has been mentioned having FPGA based filters is something that is easy to add to our own board, and adds very little cost. I can easily put in a VERY high quality S/PDIF interface that will be better than just about anything out there, or even a USB output optimized for audio use. I have been doing systems like these for many years now and the biggest time sinc has always been the UI. Since the SB line already has good external UI options, I think it makes more sense to design a product to be a black box (but with a web server for configuration etc so you get away from the Duet problems). Having a display and interface along the lines of the Touch seems to me to double or tripple the complexity of the project. I'm a little torn on one aspect of this, my passion is for very high quality DACs, having done systems similar to this several times I CAN say that I can do a better job for less money building very good DACs into the project than you can get by buying external DACs. It doesn't HAVE to be an either or. I can do a two board system, one board has the main guts and digital audio interfaces (S/PDIF USB) and another board that plugs in which has the DACs (it does NOT connect to the S/PDIF or USB). So if you want to spend the extra $400 you can get audio quality that will out perform external DACs costing many thousands. It is just so much easier to do a really good job of a DAC if you can build it into the architecture of the main system. Things I am NOT good at: industrial design, please don't ask me to design a really good looking case for this! John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
John, do you have experience designing a computer that includes a DAC? Or would the idea be to take some reference ARM design and basically design and build a DAC on the same board or on a daughter board? Than what about the writing of firmware? Would you handle that as well? Would you see this as basically mimicking a Touch, and then use the Lua code from that product? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: Hi guys, I want in on this! Great news - I can't have been the only one to think this sounds like a job for John Swenson when Dustin posted his original suggestion :). A version of the Duet Receiver, with a web interface and the option of a top quality DAC, seems like an excellent way to get started. Count me in for a bit of 'community funding'. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.
Dear Ralphy, you got it!!! Thank you very much for your quick help. Now the MAC in LMS for your squeezplay version is the physical MAC of my PC 1 as exspected. Musiclover's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34542 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96573 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
This unit is white and gray not black but it's guaranteed to be an E02. It's actually a POGO-E02G but that's the same thing. http://www.amazon.com/Pogoplug-Media-Sharing-Device-Gray/dp/B0044CL1N0?tag=vort-20 agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Seagate Constellation CS 3TB
That should work OK. Have you looked at the WD Red line? They have higher MTBFs and a 3 year warranty. agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
Did so yesterday. Now to figure out how to make a P21 useful around the house. Too bad it won't clean the bathroom. mikeh49's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
chill wrote: Great news - I can't have been the only one to think this sounds like a job for John Swenson when Dustin posted his original suggestion :). A version of the Duet Receiver, with a web interface and the option of a top quality DAC, seems like an excellent way to get started. Count me in for a bit of 'community funding'. +1000 garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Seagate Constellation CS 3TB
The WD Black has a 5 year warranty. The MTBF is no longer published for these drives but I believe it would be a higher rate than the Red drives SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JJZolx wrote: Would you see this as basically mimicking a Touch, and then use the Lua code from that product? For a headless box there isn't any need to take any lua code from the Touch. At the moment the easiest would be: Linux based OS + Squeezelite (or squeezeslave) In the future this can be adapted to: Linux based OS + the player software of your choice As long as it's Linux based and is a headless device, there is no reason to bring in the whole Touch lua based firmware which would introduce all kinds of copyright related complication since icons and similar things isn't freely re-distributable. As long as we don't have a display on the device it's much better to base it on something more lightweight, like Squeezelite. This way it's also just the player related code that have to be adapted if we want to use the box with another system in the future, like turning it into a AirPlay receiver, UPnP renderer or even a completely new system with similar features as the Squeezebox but independent from Logitech. Having a web server for configuration should be a piece of cake, there are plenty of people around here that can help implementing that. Some drivers would probably have to be implemented, but as long as you choose chipsets which have Linux support I suspect most of it is already available so it's more a matter of compiling/packaging them in suitable way. Having a display on the box would be attractive and so would IR support be, but since a UI adds a lot of complexity on the software side (and possibility also on hardware side) I would skip the display in the first iteration. If you want to make the hardware future proof, it might be reasonable to add a HDMI output so it in the future will be possible to add video drivers and output a image on a TV or external display, I'm just not sure if this would introduce a lot of extra complexity on the hardware side. If it introduce a lot of extra complexity it might be better to advice users to get an old used smart phone/tablet and put it in a docking station and use that as the display together with a suitable smartphone/tablet app. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: When doing it yourself you have a wide range of options available for including in the device, that would be very difficult to add to an existing board. For example as has been mentioned having FPGA based filters is something that is easy to add to our own board, and adds very little cost. I can easily put in a VERY high quality S/PDIF interface that will be better than just about anything out there, or even a USB output optimized for audio use. Having S/PDIF interface will make it more attractive to a lot of people. There are a lot of people who already have an amplifier in their listening room, being able to just connect the device to one of the digital inputs of the amplifier will make it a lot easier than forcing everyone to acquire an external USB DAC. Making it easy for more people to use it is going to be important if you like to get more volumes in the future, with only support for USB I'm afraid you are going to be restricted to selling it to geeks and audiophiles. JohnSwenson wrote: I'm a little torn on one aspect of this, my passion is for very high quality DACs, having done systems similar to this several times I CAN say that I can do a better job for less money building very good DACs into the project than you can get by buying external DACs. It doesn't HAVE to be an either or. I can do a two board system, one board has the main guts and digital audio interfaces (S/PDIF USB) and another board that plugs in which has the DACs (it does NOT connect to the S/PDIF or USB). So if you want to spend the extra $400 you can get audio quality that will out perform external DACs costing many thousands. It is just so much easier to do a really good job of a DAC if you can build it into the architecture of the main system. For someone who is satisfied with the quality of the DAC in the Touch, how much price difference would it be between a board without a DAC and a board with a DAC with similar quality as the Squeezebox Touch ? If we assume the low volume scenario, are we talking about $400 extra or is it a lot less ? I suspect a built-in DAC is mainly critical for people who want to connect the device to powered speakers, if you already have an external amplifier that's likely going to have digital inputs so you can just use the S/PDIF output. Based on this, I think the DAC either have to be an optional part for audiophiles (as you suggested) who aren't satisfied with the DAC in their external amplifier, or if it's included on the standard board it would have to be something which doesn't increase the price too much since its main purpose would be to be able to attract users who want to connect it to powered speakers where top notch audio quality isn't as critical as in the main listening room. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Maybe I'm missing something, but I see little reason to build a displayless SB replacement without an internal DAC and analog out. Otherwise, the only thing it such a device might have over the current DIY solutions built on PCs with USB output is a high quality S/PDIF out. I would see the necessary I/O as: - analog L/R - optical S/PDIF - coaxial S/PDIF - USB - ethernet - wifi Plus (ideally): - IR input for basic playback control: volume, skip, play, pause, repeat, shuffle Then I'd say leave open the possibility of some kind of USB display by adding an additional USB port. With this, there could possibly be a full UI developed at some point, as long as support existed at the server. Which brings up the issue of... branching the server. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Almost forgot: If there's no IR input then there must be a reset switch of some kind that can perform a factory reset. With IR input, you could resort to the awkward SB method of resetting by pulling the power plug and holding some random button on the remote while you plug the power back in. Or, maybe just build the first SB with a real power switch. Even with one, the reset switch would still be welcome. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JJZolx wrote: Otherwise, the only thing it such a device might have over the current DIY solutions built on PCs with USB output is a high quality S/PDIF out. I suspect we are still talking about a DIY solution or possibly a pre-packaged DIY solution, so far I haven't seen any indication in this thread that makes me think it will reach the masses. To reach the masses you really need multiple type of devices, at minimum one optimized for connection to an external amplifier and one with built-in speakers suitable for kitchen/bedroom/bathroom kind of environment. To reach the masses you also need to reach the shelf in the stores, but that's a different topic so let's not bring that into the discussion yet. JJZolx wrote: Which brings up the issue of... branching the server. Which would be a much bigger task, especially if we want to do it the right way and not violate license/copyrights from Logitech and other companies which own the redistribution rights. It's easy to do it if you ignore the legal problems which violating the license/copyright can cause and ignore Windows users which want the exe binaries, but doing so doesn't seem like a long term solution to me. However, having said that, it's certainly doable, the question is just if it's worth the trouble and I'm skeptical if there are enough people in the community who would be willing to do the necessary development/maintenance work for free on longer terms. As I posted earlier in the thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97881-Community-Funded-Squeezebox-Replacement-Would-you-be-interestedp=733887viewfull=1#post733887 I personally still believe something that relies on LMS or even mysqueezebox.com is a temporary solution, which works for DIY hardware, but for long term survival we really need something else. So to base the box on Linux and not tie too much of it towards Logitech and LMS/mysqueezebox.com is probably a good idea to make it easier to change it to work with something else in the future. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
erland wrote: I suspect we are still talking about a DIY solution or possibly a pre-packaged DIY solution, so far I haven't seen any indication in this thread that makes me think it will reach the masses. To reach the masses you really need multiple type of devices, at minimum one optimized for connection to an external amplifier and one with built-in speakers suitable for kitchen/bedroom/bathroom kind of environment. To reach the masses you also need to reach the shelf in the stores, but that's a different topic so let's not bring that into the discussion yet. (etc.) You've lost me... Who's talking about masses or selling anything in stores? As I posted earlier in the thread: I personally still believe something that relies on LMS or even mysqueezebox.com is a temporary solution, which works for DIY hardware, but for long term survival we really need something else. So to base the box on Linux and not tie too much of it towards Logitech and LMS/mysqueezebox.com is probably a good idea to make it easier to change it to work with something else in the future. I haven't addressed mysb.com functionality, but how can a Squeezebox replacement NOT rely on LMS or another server that implements SlimProto? If it doesn't, then it's not a Squeezebox. John's post talks of circuit boards an IR input, so I presume that he's talking about building something that resembles and operates like a Squeezebox. We're no longer talking about taking a Raspberry Pi or other off-the-shelf computer and making it work like a Squeezebox to feed a USB DAC. For the most part, that's been done. My post above simply tries to outline what I feel would be the minimum required I/O of an SB replacement. Apart from the USB, it's not much different than the old Receiver. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
