Re: [slim] LMS Synology Issue Please help - 6 days to scan!

2013-04-05 Thread gryphraff

First thing to do is go to the screen that shows scanning progress. It's
the last tab under settings (sorry, can't remember exactly what it's
called.) You'll see two links for logs, one for the system itself and
one for the scanning process. Look at the last 50-100 entries in these
logs. I don't have anything specific to tell you, just that you should
look for errors or unusual things like the scanner throwing odd errors.

Another thing to check is to see if the built-in media scanners are
competing for resources (resources widget in the DSM OS, look at
processes and the CPU time consumed.) If you don't use any other
protocol for music (DLNA, Firefly, etc.) then it's best to go in and
disable those. Uninstall any unused packages through package manager.
You'll need to go into the command line to disable the media scanners, I
can point you to relevant information (or just google it) if you want.

If you want to post a portion of the scan log, maybe someone can offer
some insight into what's going on. That being said, the scan process on
a Synology box is veery slow. If you have more than a few 1000s of
songs, you can easily tie up your NAS for days, especially if it's doing
other things like indexing photos or music with the built-in scanners.
If you have one of the lower models (111, 110, 109, a -J model, etc)
then you're taking a double hit with the slow processor and small RAM.



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Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30

2013-04-05 Thread maddymarc

I can't get to ssh into the new pogo E02. 
It powers up and connects to the network fine. It has an IP.
The pogoplug activate webpage cannot detect it and says the ID is
invalid. WTF?
Dangit.



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[slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread pippin

Since some people seem to be getting a bit nervous about the current
situation relating to Squeezebox products and are starting to abandon
the Squeezebox and move to other music streaming platforms, we thought
we would make a brief announcement that we have been working on
something for a while. We initiated the project in 2011 when we started
to see indications of the direction Logitech was moving in and have been
working on it since then in parallel with our other activities.

We have seen the current trend in the market where hardware vendors are
forced to do proprietary software solutions, typically resulting in
users getting locked in to a specific vendor specific solutions with
limited device choices for a good whole house audio experience. On top
of this online streaming providers have to make proprietary integrations
with each individual hardware platform to be able to offer their
services everywhere, resulting in a fragmented experience. UPnP was
supposed to be the solution to some of this but it really never worked
for music.

Our belief is that people don't want to be locked into a specific
hardware vendor, they want to have the option to combine hardware from
different manufacturers in the same system, to use high-end devices in
the main listening room and cheaper devices in kitchen or bedroom. We
also believe people want to use locally stored music as well as music
provided by online streaming services.

Our goal is to provide an open platform which can be integrated with
third party hardware and also enhanced by third party software. We will
provide controllers and players for iOS and Android ourselves, and in
addition to this we are talking to hardware vendors. We have also done
some prototyping of running our platform on Squeezeboxes and have a
plugin that makes it possible to use LMS as content provider for local
music. This way we want to make sure you can keep your Squeezeboxes
alive even when Logitech ends the support for them.

The platform will be commercial because we don't think integration with
online services and long term survival is possible without a charging,
but our current intention is to try keep the community feeling from the
Squeezebox community, where it's possible for third party developers to
easily provide additions for free. To support this we will provide an
API that can be used to extend the system we want that capability build
into the DNA of the system and it's actually an area we are focusing on
right now.

The current state of the platform is that we are doing some alpha
testing with a selection of people from the community and the group of
testers will be extended over time so we can release a first version
available to the public sometime later this year.

Unfortunately we can't share more information than this at the moment,
but feel free to post feedback in this thread if you know things we
should think about to make the solution fit your setup better.

Finally, you are probably wondering who is part of this, so to give you
some idea:
- Joerg Schwieder (pippin): Developer of the iPeng app family for
iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch devices
- Erland Isaksson (erland): Developer of many free and commercial
plugins and applets for the Squeezebox
- James Fearon: Developer of the playback logic in the iPeng app family
- Remco Derksen (remd): Previously in charge of Partnerships and
Business development for the Squeezebox.
- Some of the other third party developers and some
graphics/marketing/business oriented resources

You will find our web site at http://www.ickstream.com where we will
provide more information of the platform as it becomes available.

Finally, please don't worry about our current Squeezebox related work.
Both the iPeng apps and Erland's plugins/applets will continue to be
supported and the new platform has of course taken some inspiration from
our previous work as well as for the things we were not able to do on
the Squeezebox platform in the past.

The ickStream Team
-ickStream - A world of music at your fingertips-



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread Corelli45

I was at the stage of thinking about selling my beloved Squeezebox Touch
but this news is terrific. I have monitored Erland's posts over the past
few months and knew he had something up his sleeve. Will this platform
take he place of Mysqueezebox.com? I've looked around but haven't found
anything matching the Touch's flexibility and value. I primarily listen
to Spotify through Triode's app. Will I be able to continue this through
the new platform.I'm glad that you care enough to work on his. Many
thanks and I look forward to developments. Will we all have opportunity
to trial this platform prior to its release?
Steve



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread Peter314

Good news! I shall follow developments with great interest.

Not sure about the ickstream name though. Maybe it sounds better to
German ears?!



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread erland

Corelli45 wrote: 
 Will this platform take he place of Mysqueezebox.com? 
 
The ickStream system has a cloud server part that will do a bit similar
things as mysqueezebox.com plus a lot more. 
It's also built from the ground up to be scalable and reliable with many
users.

Corelli45 wrote: 
 
 I've looked around but haven't found anything matching the Touch's
 flexibility and value. I primarily listen to Spotify through Triode's
 app. Will I be able to continue this through the new platform.I'm glad
 that you care enough to work on his. Many thanks and I look forward to
 developments. 
 
We are working on adding support for many different online streaming
services and we will add them gradually, we can't say exactly which ones
that will be available at the initial launch, but support for big online
services like Spotify is definitely something we know is important.

Corelli45 wrote: 
 
 Will we all have opportunity to trial this platform prior to its
 release?
 Steve
 
Probably not everyone, but we will gradually add more beta testers so
those who we feel have been good beta testers previously or we know use
the system in a specific way or in a specific environment are good
candidates. We will probably ask in this thread if we have a need for a
certain kind of beta tester and on top of this we also have a mailing
list for people who like to eventually participate in beta testing which
you can register to on our web page http://www.ickstream.com



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Re: [slim] How to Future-Proof your SB Setup

2013-04-05 Thread jmschnur

A related question. Can the JR River Media center DLNA server push music
to Logitech Touch players? It sees the players as zones but i did not
want to try it for fear of hurting something in my LMS .

I have MC and LMS on different computers on the same network.


J



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread Corelli45

I had been considering an Olive One as it has open architecture and will
include Spotify but your announcement has taken me by surprise. When are
you likely to launch your product?
Steve



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread maggior

pippin wrote: 
 We have also done some prototyping of running our platform on
 Squeezeboxes and have a plugin that makes it possible to use LMS as
 content provider for local music. This way we want to make sure you can
 keep your Squeezeboxes alive even when Logitech ends the support for
 them.
 

Interesting.  This explains some things Erland has said in the forums
:-).  It seemed like he was privvy to something going on.

I'm curious what you mean by running our platrorm on squeezeboxes. 
Are you replacing squeezebox firmware?  Or are you referring to using
squeezeboxes in a mixed enironment with ickstream devices?



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread maggior

One request:
please please please make gapless playback of LAME mp3 and FLAC a must
have feature and not something left to be dealt with after release.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread Corelli45

Also. Are you linked with John Swenson's development?



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread SamS

Terrific news! I look forward to your progress and helping/supporting in
any way that I can.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread kidstypike

Terrific news, made my day, thanks guys :)



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[slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-05 Thread TheShanMan

I have an SB1 and it has quite noticeable screen burn which is evidently
from displaying date/time when off. Is there any way, via a plugin or
whatever, to get the date time screensaver to scroll to lessen the
amount it burns the screen over time? I've done some googling and
haven't found anything, but I'm hoping I just haven't stumbled on it
yet. For the time being, I'm just setting the screen to be off when the
SB1 is off, but it would be so much nicer to display the time.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread pippin

Running on Squeezeboxes currently means our software client runs in
parallel to the MySqueezebox.com integration so you can use the original
system of ours and seamlessly switch but at least right now we don't
have combined playlists or something.

Gapless works right now, I believe, although I would have to
doublecheck? I believe that's currently just an implementation detail.
But both gapless and synchronization are basic design requirements
although syncing in our system is the one thing that is more challenging
compared to the SB although Somos does get it to work fine with a
similar approach.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread pippin

Corelli45 wrote: 
 Also. Are you linked with John Swenson's development?

We are just doing software. But he's aware of what we are doing and we
watch the community  squeeze project and I am pretty sure our solution
will run on it.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread bakker_be

I know MusicIP as as good as dead to some, but even the latest Bowie
still gets analyzed and I use it very much. It's still better than the
smartmix solution powered by the Echonest for me, so support on
ickStream would be very welcome, especially if it works like SpiceFly
Sugarcube.



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Re: [slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-05 Thread bwaldron

Look into the third-party FuzzyTime plugin (I don't have the link handy,
but I use this with my SB2 and Classic)

Sent from my GT-P5113 using Tapatalk HD



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread SlimChances

Excellent news. I would also appreciate support for MusicIP



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Re: [slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-05 Thread TheShanMan

I don't see anything in the description of FuzzyTime's features that
leads me to believe it can scroll the time. Thanks though.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread maggior

pippin wrote: 
 Running on Squeezeboxes currently means our software client runs in
 parallel to the MySqueezebox.com integration so you can use the original
 system of ours and seamlessly switch but at least right now we don't
 have combined playlists or something.
 
 Gapless works right now, I believe, although I would have to
 doublecheck? I believe that's currently just an implementation detail.
 But both gapless and synchronization are basic design requirements
 although syncing in our system is the one thing that is more challenging
 compared to the SB although Somos does get it to work fine with a
 similar approach.

Thanks Pippin.  I'm glad to hear both gapless and synchronized playback
are design requirements.

I'm anxious to see what you guys come up with.  Given show is involved,
I'm sure it will be good!!



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Re: [slim] How to Future-Proof your SB Setup

2013-04-05 Thread TimT

pablolie wrote: 
 While I am excited to see some plans about Open Source support for the
 platform, on the other hand I am pragmatic and I guess I want to start a
 thread on ideas and approaches on how to keep our SB investment going,
 longer term, in a constantly evolving OS environment.
 
 [snip]
 
 Maybe there'll be some hot new tech that makes me listen to music
 totally different, but looking at my traditional patterns I doubt such a
 fundamental audio revolution will happen for audiophiles. Hence I want
 to think about how to protect my SB environment.

I have a Western Digital My Book Live (actually, two of them, both the
1TB models) on which is installed LMS 7.8. It's running Debian 5.0.4. WD
offers updates, but those are installed at the option of the user. As
long as my Squeezebox hardware holds up, I can see myself happily
listening to music streamed from the MBL for many years. Is this what
you had in mind?



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread erland

Corelli45 wrote: 
 I had been considering an Olive One as it has open architecture and will
 include Spotify but your announcement has taken me by surprise. When are
 you likely to launch your product?
 
As mentioned in the initial post the current plan is to launch it
sometime later this year. We want to be sure we have a reasonable
finished product before we launch so we don't want to be more specific
than this at the moment.

Also, the fact that we are only doing software makes it possible for us
to support multiple hardware vendors, which is very different compared
to the Olive One architecture which as far as I've understood is locked
into the single Olive One hardware device they are currently working
on.

In our vision, you would be able to get high end hardware for the main
listening room from your HiFi manufacturer and low end hardware for the
kitchen and bedroom from your favorite mass market manufacturer and as
long as they all support the ickStream platform you will be able to use
them all in the same system and even bring the system with you on your
smart phone or tablet when you leave the home. Who knows, if Olive One
are really open they might even consider supporting ickStream on their
hardware in the future.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread erland

bakker_be wrote: 
 I know MusicIP as as good as dead to some, but even the latest Bowie
 still gets analyzed and I use it very much. It's still better than the
 smartmix solution powered by the Echonest for me, so support on
 ickStream would be very welcome, especially if it works like SpiceFly
 Sugarcube.
Smart playlists/mixes is definitely something we want to support,
especially since it's functionality which is more or less missing from
most other hardware players except for the Squeezebox.

I'm not sure we want to rely on MusicIP, since that product
unfortunately is no longer maintained, but the API's we provide to third
party developers would definitely make it possible for a third party
developer to do an integration with MusicIP similar to SpiceFly
Sugarcube. For people who are happy to run LMS it might even just be an
adjustment of the current Spicefly Sugarcube plugin.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-05 Thread vining

Will there be CLI support for guys integrating syestems with AMX or
Crestron?



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Re: [slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-05 Thread aubuti

I don't recall if FuzzyTime will scroll the time, but it _will_ move the
time display leftward a user-specified number of pixels every X minutes,
and then when it gets to the left edge of the screen, move it rightward
the same number of pixels every X minutes until it gets to the right
edge of the screen. Then it repeats. A very simple and effective way to
prevernt burn-in. Even better than scrolling/looping in one direction,
imo.



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