Re: [slim] Additional Squeezebox player ?

2013-09-23 Thread swayzak

jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
 I'd argue a Joggler can be better than a Touch with an appropriate USB
 DAC. Bigger better screen and easily enough power to run a proper
 version of LMS on board, either accessing music on a USB drive or on a
 NAS.
 
 Not for everyone and definitely not plug and play and does require
 effort to set up but I'd argue for my own needs I have a superior
 solution for less than a quarter of the price.
 
 Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

Interesting. Have many got this running as a squeezebox device ?



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-23 Thread Peter Galbavy

Very nice. I may have to spend my money on your player app, which I've
been putting off as I have too many real SB boxes. I bought a Rikomagiv
RK809IV to play with but so far it's not great on video playback, but I
am going to be testing other ROMs and even Ubuntu soon.

One thing that did spring to mind was that now with real HDMI and not
just S/PDIF I should in theory be able to playback multichannel DVD
Audio rips. No idea what the Squeeze platform (server, your player etc.)
might do with that - any ideas? I assume the ability to decode
multichannel FLAC and then stream multichannel LPCM over the HDMI will
not be a native function - any guesses if this is feasible?

I have the luxury of two living rooms, one for music with a 2.0 (going
to test an old subwoofer to maybe go 2.1 soon) and the other the
TV/movie room with a nice 5.1 setup- currently an SB Touch in each. I
used to have some spare money once :)

Peter



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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Controll App direct Android (apk) download not latest version

2013-09-23 Thread lrossouw

Hi

As a more long-term solution I'd suggest you install google play store?

Or is this not possible?

You should be able to find the APK by searhcing for it.

Regards
Louis



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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Controll App direct Android (apk) download not latest version

2013-09-23 Thread cncb

lrossouw wrote: 
 
 As a more long-term solution I'd suggest you install google play store?
 
 Or is this not possible?

Unfortunately with this tablet (and other cheap ones like it) it is not
possible to install the Google Play app or download from the Google Play
website.  It must some kind of certification thing.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-23 Thread bluegaspode

Peter Galbavy wrote: 
 
 One thing that did spring to mind was that now with real HDMI and not
 just S/PDIF I should in theory be able to playback multichannel DVD
 Audio rips. No idea what the Squeeze platform (server, your player etc.)
 might do with that - any ideas?
The FLACs are transferred to the respective players, typically they only
use the first two main channels for playback.
I didn't check the Android API yet, if it would allow to pass 5 channels
down the HDMI route.
I'm also not sure yet, if such a niché feature of a niché product would
really make sense :)



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Re: [slim] SQLite Browser for Windows

2013-09-23 Thread w3wilkes

Interesting... I went out to the MP3Tag forum to see about rounding the
TBPM to the nearest integer and believe it or not this is the most
recent topic!
http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=17760
In that thread there's a link to a older thread that has action code
from Moonbase that seems to work flawlessly to do this rounding. If
anyone is interested here's the link to that;
http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=8295
I originally was going to just use the function to trim the last 3
characters of TBPM (the .nn part), but thought I'd look to see if
someone had invented a $round function since it's not a native MP3Tag
action code function and found that there is! This is a way better
approach, if you did the trim method twice you destroy the field. You
can run the round function as much as you want and if the TBPM has
already been rounded it stays the same. Be aware that if TBPM is null
it will be set to 0, you could always add a last function test to
reset to null if TBPM is 0.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-23 Thread marlo

Could you please check if playback of hires-files is possible via hdmi
and/or spdif?





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[slim] What should replace my Squeezebox system?

2013-09-23 Thread nicky6

Hi, I know it's really bad of me posting something like this here, but
it's time for it I feel.
I've been an avid fan of Slim Devices and bought the first Squeezebox
when it came out (2004?) after I enjoyed a friends SliMP3-powered (6
rooms) house. I've since added 2 Classics and two Radio. the server is
an now old HP X510 Data Vault running WHS.
I feel everything is getting too old now. The WHS eats disks because it
was never meant to be able to handle these 2TB WD RED disks. 
Then Logitech went and killed the Squeezeboxes in favour of the UE. I've
had several issues with the Media Center as well.

So, I need to change my setup. But to what? I'd really prefer to keep
the 4 2TB WD RED disks, put them in a new cheap server running maybe
Windows Server 2012 Foundation and Media Center on top of that. Is it
possible? Or should I opt for a NAS? Then which one? (I want to be able
to do backups of my 3 Macbook Pro's too really)

And the players... I wanted to replace the radios in favour of Touch and
maybe the Classics too. But now, I'm not sure. Sonos? No, I don't want
to be like everyone else. AppleTV - despite not being audiophile, it was
descent enough. But it was horrible to play different music in different
rooms or synced in all or a ew rooms. So now the two AppleTV's only
serve Netflix and iTunes movies.

So guys, plaase help me out! I want good audio quality, from a
manufacturer that will be here in 5 -10 years time. Serving 200GB music
and if possible act as a backup for my Macbooks. Last thing is low
priority though. Want to play both FLAC, MP3, AAC (protected and non-,
either native or transcoded to FLAC/MP3) and OGG (Spotify). Want to be
able to play synced in zones or different music in each zone.
App-controlled of course (I love Squeezepad and iPeng is pretty ok on
the phone).

Hlp! :)

Oh, the same price point. Not some Meridian, Krell etc super xpensive
stuff.



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Re: [slim] What should replace my Squeezebox system?

2013-09-23 Thread audiomuze

Mate, with all due respect, are you living under a rock? Get yourself a
Wandboard, add an external DAC with a USB input and get on with enjoying
your music. The only thing defunct about the Squeezebox architecture is
your frame of reference.



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Re: [slim] What should replace my Squeezebox system?

2013-09-23 Thread garym

 from a manufacturer that will be here in 5 -10 years time

In today's fast paced business world, this means almost nobody
qualifies.  But there are numerous options, including many that continue
to use LMS as the server/database. See some of these old threads for
examples:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98886-State-of-play-in-the-Squeezebox-replacement-world-6-13highlight=replacement+squeezebox
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97721-Logitech-SqueezeBox-replacement-for-under-30highlight=replacement+squeezebox



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Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win7(64)  LMS 7.8  SqueezePlay
*Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER
*Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD  SqueezePad),
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Re: [slim] Additional Squeezebox player ?

2013-09-23 Thread swayzak

My God.

Someone just paid $600 for a new Touch I was bidding on at ebay.

Crazy.



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Re: [slim] Additional Squeezebox player ?

2013-09-23 Thread garym

swayzak wrote: 
 My God.
 
 Someone just paid $600 for a new Touch I was bidding on at ebay.
 
 Crazy.

Hey, people were paying those prices for Beanie Babies at one time.  ;-)

(but at least one can play music with a Touchnot sure what to do
with a beanie baby!



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Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win7(64)  LMS 7.8  SqueezePlay
*Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER
*Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD  SqueezePad),
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Re: [slim] Additional Squeezebox player ?

2013-09-23 Thread swayzak

I didn't realise they were THAT desirable.

I suppose I should be happy that I bought my 2 Booms  Duet when I did
(which all get heavy use every day) !

May still keep an eye out for a Touch though..



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Re: [slim] What should replace my Squeezebox system?

2013-09-23 Thread Apesbrain

ATM, there's no better alternative out there; you've named the top
contenders and they all have trade-offs.  I can understand wanting
something new but what exactly is your issue with the Squeezebox
system you have?  Sounds like it does what you want, but you have server
problems.  Why not build a server with all the RAID you need and run
linux version of LMS?  Get a small SSD or USB drive for your system and
recycle your four WD hard drives for storage.  Parts will run you about
$300 at newegg and assembly will take an hour or so.  May be a bit
painstaking to configure -- 'Vortexbox' (http://vortexbox.org) is
probably the easiest place to start -- but afterward should be stable
and bulletproof.  Others on the Forum will help you along the way.  Run
XBMC on it and you can serve up video as well.  If you prefer Windows,
go that way; it doesn't really matter.  My advice is not to get a NAS;
none seem to have enough CPU power that they don't eventually get
stressed out by the demands of a larger media library.

If you're worried about scarcity of SB hardware, get up to speed on
development work by other Forum members referenced above.  I am
particularly interested in this investigation into low-cost android
player options:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99865-Android-TV-Sticks-Boxes-as-Squeezebox-Replacement

Maybe best to get a Time Capsule to back up your Macs.



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Re: [slim] What should replace my Squeezebox system?

2013-09-23 Thread garym

Apesbrain wrote: 
 ATM, there's no better alternative out there; you've named the top
 contenders and they all have trade-offs.  I can understand wanting
 something new but what exactly is your issue with the Squeezebox
 system you have?  Sounds like it does what you want, but you have server
 problems.  Why not build a server with all the RAID you need and run
 linux version of LMS?  Get a small SSD or USB drive for your system and
 recycle your four WD hard drives for storage.  Parts will run you about
 $300 at newegg and assembly will take an hour or so.  May be a bit
 painstaking to configure -- 'Vortexbox' (http://vortexbox.org) is
 probably the easiest place to start -- but afterward should be stable
 and bulletproof.  Others on the Forum will help you along the way.  Run
 XBMC on it and you can serve up video as well.  If you prefer Windows,
 go that way; it doesn't really matter.  My advice is not to get a NAS;
 none seem to have enough CPU power that they don't eventually get
 stressed out by the demands of a larger media library.
 
 If you're worried about scarcity of SB hardware, get up to speed on
 development work by other Forum members referenced above.  I am
 particularly interested in this investigation into low-cost android
 player options:
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99865-Android-TV-Sticks-Boxes-as-Squeezebox-Replacement
 
 Maybe best to get a Time Capsule to back up your Macs.

+1. And with the vortexbox system on a headless computer, you won't need
XBMC (or maybe it is that it is already installed).  Anyhow, I can
stream video with my vortexbox server out of the box with nothing extra.



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[slim] accessing to a remote logitech media server

2013-09-23 Thread cdubet

Hello

I have at home a squeezebox and a small nas where the logitech media
server is running. Everything is fine and as I was happy with it, I
bough a new squeezebox for my parents
I wished them to be able to listen to the music stored in my NAS but it
does not work: *the squeezebox is unable to connect to the media
server.*:(
If -I use from a pc an other program (like softsqueeze) it works-. So
the ports should be OK (and I have checked with nmap)
The squeezebox is even unable to connect to the media server from my
home if I give the external IP address (with the internal one, it works
fine)

Question:
HAS ANYBODY TRIED TO CONNECT TO A LOCAL NAS FROM AN OTHER PLACE ?
IS MY PROBLEM A BANDWIDTH/TIMEOUT PROBLEM ?

any idea why I cannot connect from the external IP even if the port 9000
and 9090 are opened (for UPD and TCP)

Thanks for any input



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Re: [slim] SQLite Browser for Windows

2013-09-23 Thread w3wilkes

I tested MoonBase action in MP3Tag against a couple of albums and then
did a clear and full rescan. With the BPM in the tags now being full
integers with no decimal places it populates in the SQ database just
fine! So now it's time to go to work on the SQL playlist that will
filter on Genre and BPM.



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Re: [slim] accessing to a remote logitech media server

2013-09-23 Thread callesoroe

cdubet wrote: 
 Hello
 
 I have at home a squeezebox and a small nas where the logitech media
 server is running. Everything is fine and as I was happy with it, I
 bough a new squeezebox for my parents
 I wished them to be able to listen to the music stored in my NAS but it
 does not work: *the squeezebox is unable to connect to the media
 server.*:(
 If -I use from a pc an other program (like softsqueeze) it works-. So
 the ports should be OK (and I have checked with nmap)
 The squeezebox is even unable to connect to the media server from my
 home if I give the external IP address (with the internal one, it works
 fine)
 
 Question:
 HAS ANYBODY TRIED TO CONNECT TO A LOCAL NAS FROM AN OTHER PLACE ?
 IS MY PROBLEM A BANDWIDTH/TIMEOUT PROBLEM ?
 
 any idea why I cannot connect from the external IP even if the port 9000
 and 9090 are opened (for UPD and TCP)
 
 Thanks for any input

Does softsqueeze Work when you are on your parrents Network ???
Do you have a fixed ip adress from your ISP ? If not maybe you should
get a free DYNDNS at DYNDNS.ORG . Then you can choose a domain name and
Automatic get your actual ip adress.
And then you can connect to domainname.dyndns.org:9000
You need to forward port 3483 instead of 9090



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Re: [slim] SQLite Browser for Windows

2013-09-23 Thread w3wilkes

This should be my last entry on this... Using the SQL Playlist plugin I
created a Advanced Playlist with Genre=Rock and Year =1990 and Year
=1970 to get a template. Then I edited the SQL to change the year
criteria to bpm values...

-- PlaylistName:TestBPM
-- PlaylistGroups:
select tracks.url from tracks
left join dynamicplaylist_history on
tracks.id=dynamicplaylist_history.id and
dynamicplaylist_history.client='PlaylistPlayer'
join genre_track on
tracks.id=genre_track.track  
join genres on
genres.id=genre_track.genre and
genres.name='Rock'

where
tracks.audio=1
and dynamicplaylist_history.id is null
and tracks.bpm = 119
and tracks.bpm = 121

group by tracks.id
order by random()
limit 10;

I knew that with the BPM test data I'd added to the database that there
were 3 38 Special songs that would match up. This works GREAT! You could
easily add criteria to get further limits like adding year stuff to the
end of the where section to limit this to the 60's Rock (for those of
us that are old and have a bunch of the old 60's rock  roll).

and tracks.year = 1960
and tracks.year = 1969

Hopefully some of you may find all this info useful, Enjoy.



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Re: [slim] SQLite Browser for Windows

2013-09-23 Thread w3wilkes

And one last thing...

Thanks to all those who replied, especially;
JJZolx for the SQLite Expert info for DB browsing and providing the info
on what the BPM column had to contain.
and
Erland for the great SQL and Dynamic Playlist plugins that give me the
power to put my idea together.



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Re: [slim] What should replace my Squeezebox system?

2013-09-23 Thread nicky6

audiomuze wrote: 
 Mate, with all due respect, are you living under a rock? Get yourself a
 Wandboard, add an external DAC with a USB input and get on with enjoying
 your music. The only thing defunct about the Squeezebox architecture is
 your frame of reference.

Well, I knew I asked for it, right!
And YES, I HAVE been living under rock

I forgot to say - I don't want to hack around / tinker with the stuff.
I'm intrigued by the Sonos it just works philosophy.

Someone asked what is my issue really with the system - Media Center I
think. But maybe it's the hardware that makes Media Center lag, freeze
etc...

So, to get the same audio quality/DAC, I need to tinker with some DYI
HWSW? Hm, I was hoping there was something like the Sonos (plug'n'play)
or the Olive (too bad it only serves four rooms, and also I'd like some
cheaper models for e.g. the bathrooms. That's why the SB's was so great.
The radios was perfect for the bathrooms)



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Re: [slim] What should replace my Squeezebox system?

2013-09-23 Thread audiomuze

nicky6 wrote: 
 Well, I knew I asked for it, right!
 And YES, I HAVE been living under rock
 
 I forgot to say - I don't want to hack around / tinker with the stuff.
 I'm intrigued by the Sonos it just works philosophy.
 
 Someone asked what is my issue really with the system - Media Center I
 think. But maybe it's the hardware that makes Media Center lag, freeze
 etc...
 
 So, to get the same audio quality/DAC, I need to tinker with some DYI
 HWSW? Hm, I was hoping there was something like the Sonos (plug'n'play)
 or the Olive (too bad it only serves four rooms, and also I'd like some
 cheaper models for e.g. the bathrooms. That's why the SB's was so great.
 The radios was perfect for the bathrooms)

Nah, you didn't just ask for it, the reason for my statement was because
the forum is abound with means of getting past the fact that there is no
more Squeezebox hardware and you handn't mentioned you don't want to
tinker.  Truth be told though the tinkering is no different to setting
up a media server - in fact I'd say it's quite a bit simpler given OS's
like Vortexbox where all the heavy lifting has been done for you.  If
you need additional hardware the Wandboard is a brilliant way to add
Squeezebox capability to any room with minimal hassle.  The Wandboard
actually makes a great LMS host as well, so if you're up for a bit of
tinkering there's a no compromise path.  If not, you're headed don the
road of compromise e.g. Sonos can only handle a finite number of tracks.



digital groove | 'Vivere DAC MKI'
(http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC
SCA2'
(http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/)
| 'ATC SCM100ASLT'
(http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/loudspeakers/tower-series/scm100aslt/)

*'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger'
(http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html):
'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* - now packaged in most
Linux distributions.

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Re: [slim] accessing to a remote logitech media server

2013-09-23 Thread cdubet

Hallo,
First thanks for answering.
I have a fixed IP. With softsqueeze I am able to connect to my server
from my home using the external IP address. With the squeezebox at home,
I cannot access the server using the external IP address but using the
internal one it works
I have tried also to forward the port 3483 but without any success.
Anyway according to nmap, it seems that the port 3483 is not opened on
the media server



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