Re: [slim] DSD playback via Logitechmediaserver using Squeezebox Touch or Wandboard
Ted`s DSD Database https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgVhKcl_3lHfdFVyenBBNjNpQ2lieG81WGpqQTNfVUE#gid=0 has helped me to find a suitable DoP-ready DAC. Another thread How to use the Squeezebox Touch to play DSD files on a DoP compatible DAC http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=119364.0 Holzohr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55329 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99958 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement
leafygreens wrote: . Is there a version of LMS for Androids? I only see Windows, Macs, and Linux. No. These are playback devices, not server computers. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99865 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox is (not) dead... One year later.
Give it one more year. jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99919 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Bose getting into it... yes THAT Bose
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/10/bose-soundtouch-wifi-music-systems/ http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/wifi_music_systems/soundtouch_music/soundtouch_30/index.jsp No FLAC support yet but it looks like it's planned. What looks disappointing though is that you need to have your library managed by iTunes or Windows. klezmer41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Bose getting into it... yes THAT Bose
Also disappointing is no audio outputs so you could use an external amp and speakers if you wish. It's all Bose or nothing. PRGeno's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Anyone have a succinct summary of the squeezebox server situation?
I've heavily used several Squeezeboxes and Boom Boxes for years, but I'm ready to throw them all in the trash. I just wasted several hours in an unsuccessful attempt to get squeezeboxserver (or logitechmediaserver, or slimserver, or whatever it's called this week) running again on a Debian Jesse system after an apt-get upgrade broke it. I've lost track of how many times in the past my server has abruptly stopped working after I've updated some obscure library or piece of Perl on my system, and I've had to dig into the code to find out why. Users shouldn't have to be skilled programmers just to play the music in their libraries. The Squeezebox hardware is nicely designed, but it is quite frankly useless without reliable software to drive it. Perl was designed to crunch Linux system logs and generate reports, which it barely does. It's far too fragile a foundation on which to build a huge application like a music storage and retrieval system with thousands of gratuitous bells and whistles. It's also extremely slow even on fast modern hardware. Has anyone considered a simple server to drive Squeezebox hardware as a bare-bones network audio output device? I suspect I'm like most people in that I control my player from my computer, not the Squeezebox's own display and IR remote, so much of the software functionality just isn't necessary. It doesn't really need to do anything but accept a raw audio stream from a player like VLC or iTunes, possibly transcode it, and ship it over the network to the player. --Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
k...@philkarn.net wrote: I've heavily used several Squeezeboxes and Boom Boxes for years, but I'm ready to throw them all in the trash. I just wasted several hours in an unsuccessful attempt to get squeezeboxserver (or logitechmediaserver, or slimserver, or whatever it's called this week) running again on a Debian Jesse system after an apt-get upgrade broke it. I've lost track of how many times in the past my server has abruptly stopped working after I've updated some obscure library or piece of Perl on my system, and I've had to dig into the code to find out why. Users shouldn't have to be skilled programmers just to play the music in their libraries. The Squeezebox hardware is nicely designed, but it is quite frankly useless without reliable software to drive it. Perl was designed to crunch Linux system logs and generate reports, which it barely does. It's far too fragile a foundation on which to build a huge application like a music storage and retrieval system with thousands of gratuitous bells and whistles. It's also extremely slow even on fast modern hardware. Has anyone considered a simple server to drive Squeezebox hardware as a bare-bones network audio output device? I suspect I'm like most people in that I control my player from my computer, not the Squeezebox's own display and IR remote, so much of the software functionality just isn't necessary. It doesn't really need to do anything but accept a raw audio stream from a player like VLC or iTunes, possibly transcode it, and ship it over the network to the player. --Phil After many years of chasing the Dream - h! look an upgrade to OS The Best Ever ver.2.00267, or whatever ... I adopt the principle of If It Ain'T Broke, Don't Fix It Outcome - a system which works with very little in the way of problems I have LMS running on Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian - none of which are the latest and greatest - end result, rock solid systems and virtually no maintenance. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio + remote Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker Cubieboard + Fedora 18 + LMS 7.8 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
You might be interested in the ickstream project. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream-Music-Platformhighlight=Ickstream *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
On 10/10/2013 06:12 PM, castalla wrote: I have LMS running on Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian - none of which are the latest and greatest - end result, rock solid systems and virtually no maintenance. That's your choice, but it's not mine. I strongly believe in updating software on a regular basis, primarily to fix security holes and bugs and only secondarily to get new features. I also use my servers for other purposes that require that they be kept up to date. Well-written applications should never break when this happens. Even when a non-backward-compatible change must be made to some module (e.g., a library) in Debian Linux, an application can specify that it needs the previous version and the package manager will handle this automatically. It can even allow multiple versions to coexist so that each application can use the one it wants. But the .deb files with the Squeezebox media server don't seem to do this -- probably because there are just far too many dependencies in the first place. I think these bit rot problems are merely a symptom of the real problem, which is that the Squeezebox media server tries to do far too much in one huge program written in the wrong language. Countless media player and library management programs with full-blown (and very complex) GUIs already exist for every OS, ranging from iTunes to the obscure, and I don't really see why I should have to use yet another one just to send audio through Squeezebox hardware. Why reinvent the wheel? What I really want is something like Apple's AirTunes or AirPlay, only with an open and unencumbered protocol specification and support for all the major codecs, including open-source ones like Ogg Vorbis and FLAC that the commercial guys refuse to support. It was this support for open codecs that attracted me to the Squeezebox in the first place. --Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
That's your choice, but it's not mine. I strongly believe in updating software on a regular basis, primarily to fix security holes and bugs and only secondarily to get new features. I also use my servers for other purposes that require that they be kept up to date. That's your choice! hardware is so cheap these days that you can easily run a headless server for LMS at about 35 USD. I think you are just giving yourself unnecessary grief. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio + remote Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker Cubieboard + Fedora 18 + LMS 7.8 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
On 10/10/2013 06:50 PM, castalla wrote: That's your choice! hardware is so cheap these days that you can easily run a headless server for LMS at about 35 USD. I think you are just giving yourself unnecessary grief. Oh, I know hardware is cheap. I even bought a separate server recently to primarily host our media archive (though it cost more than $35). But I explained my main reason I keep my systems updated is to patch security holes and bugs. Perhaps that's why I've never had a detected break-in. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
On 10/10/2013 06:16 PM, garym wrote: You might be interested in the ickstream project. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream-Music-Platformhighlight=Ickstream Thanks for the pointer. There is very little in the way of specifics, and a proprietary platform isn't very appealing, but any alternative to the present software is good to have. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Use Debian then. I've updated mine regularly over the last 5 years and keep LMS up to date as well, and have never had a hiccup. There are more bleeding-edge distros than Debian but their security patches are up to date. Two track 1's and no track 2 after a scan for new and changed? Please vote for serious scanning bug '17782' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17782) Receiver stuck at blue LED state after reboot? Please vote for bug '17462' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17462) paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
On 10/10/2013 07:22 PM, paulster wrote: Use Debian then. I've updated mine regularly over the last 5 years and keep LMS up to date as well, and have never had a hiccup. There are more bleeding-edge distros than Debian but their security patches are up to date. That's exactly what I run -- Debian testing -- but slimserver frequently breaks during upgrades. It is now broken again and I've not been able to fix it. Usually I have to wait for another release but I haven't seen anything past 7.7.3. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
I hate to be -that- guy, but discussions about server problems and software maintenance should be taken to another thread. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Bose getting into it... yes THAT Bose
PRGeno wrote: Also disappointing is no audio outputs so you could use an external amp and speakers if you wish. It's all Bose or nothing. Agreed. The ability to plug into your own amplifier would be a real plus. I would guess that is a conscious decision to tie people to the Bose line of products. Sync appears to be there which many folks find a critical component of any new system. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
If you run debian testing ? why not run the 7.8 beta version of the server that have some fixes for the perl issues ( perl 5.18 ). if your prepared to run a beta versions of an OS Why not of the server . I run the very Stable ClearOS6 beta for my server ( perl 5.10 ) iti just runs . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss