Re: [slim] Wanted: a Transporter!

2014-05-03 Thread sand

RonM wrote: 
 You really want the knob?  I haven't used mine once in the three or four
 years I've had it.  I gather the versions are otherwise identical,
 electronically speaking.

Well, silver is a must, a knob is a plus.



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Re: [slim] Wanted: a Transporter!

2014-05-03 Thread callesoroe

sand wrote: 
 . I guess people are hanging on to theirs!

YES :) I love mine .



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Re: [slim] Wanted: a Transporter!

2014-05-03 Thread garym

sand wrote: 
 Well, silver is a must, a knob is a plus.

I could be wrong, but did the latest version (SE), the one without the
knob, even come in any color other than black?



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-05-03 Thread GeeJay

RussellMrgn wrote: 
 I am really interested in how this project is going and how close you
 are to a unit that can be bought ready assembled ie a finished unit.
 
 Just recently my father passed, and he had a sonos system (play3 
 bridge) that I decided to try out. Well it sounded okish, but I ran into
 the problem of its file memory.
 Truth is I love my squeezebox system, and would never trust Logitech
 again because of what they so stupidly did to what was and still is a
 truly fantastic system. They had the whole world of music streaming in
 their hands, and threw it all away. There is nothing that comes even
 close today to what they had back then.

Every time I go researching the latest systems, I come away thinking the
same thing.  What a waste.

I'm anxiously awaiting developments on this front.  I don't need another
unit at the moment, but plan to buy several nonetheless.



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Re: [slim] No sound from SB3

2014-05-03 Thread pefthening

'Programming Xilinx' did it. Thank you very much!

Fritz



snarlydwarf wrote: 
 Unplug the SB3.
 
 Press and hold '1' on the remote (of course pointing it at the SB3...)
 
 Plug SB3 back in.
 
 Continue holding '1' until the SB3 says something like 'Programming
 Xilinx'.
 
 That should fix it.



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[slim] Can I use the Spotify app to initiate playback to my server/player?

2014-05-03 Thread floepie

My current setup is simply running the server and the software-based
player Squeezeplayer on the same PC with output to stereo.  As a
potential Spotify Premium abonnee, I'm curious if I could use the
Spotify app directly (iOS or Android) as a remote control to browse
music, playlists, and initiate playback.  Basically, I'm wondering if I
could use this entirely software based squeeze system as a Spotify
Connect system.

Or, do I need to use one of the Squeezebox remote control apps as the
interface for all Spotify related controls.



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Re: [slim] Can I use the Spotify app to initiate playback to my server/player?

2014-05-03 Thread jimbobvfr400

If you see you use the proper Spotify program on your PC you can use
several different spotify remote apps to control it on your phone
(android at least, I don't know about iOS)

For example
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jbl.android.spotimote

Or you could use any SB control app to control SqueezePlayer.

Personally I like using SqueezePlayer on my PC for local playback
because it cooperates very nicely with the rest of my SBs and LMS.
However if you're only using Spotify you might be better off with the
official app as it offers extra features not available on either the
official or 3rd party spotify implementations on LMS

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Re: [slim] Can I use the Spotify app to initiate playback to my server/player?

2014-05-03 Thread pippin

The Squeezebox is not a Spotify Connect system, you'd have to use one of
the Squeezebox control Apps to control Spotify on the Squeezebox.
And the functionality is limited to what Spotify's APIs offer which is
less than what especially the desktop Apps. The difference to Spotify's
smartphone Apps is less significant and especially the 3rd party Spotify
App has some functionality of it's own (building a library)



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Re: [slim] Can I use the Spotify app to initiate playback to my server/player?

2014-05-03 Thread floepie

jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
 If you see you use the proper Spotify program on your PC you can use
 several different spotify remote apps to control it on your phone
 (android at least, I don't know about iOS)
 
 For example
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jbl.android.spotimote
 
 Or you could use any SB control app to control SqueezePlayer.
 
 

Well now, that would be the simplest approach now wouldn't it, something
admittedly I overlooked.  I think the only thing I'd be missing out on I
suppose would be the vast offering of internet streams in the LMS
library.



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Re: [slim] Can I use the Spotify app to initiate playback to my server/player?

2014-05-03 Thread floepie

pippin wrote: 
 And the functionality is limited to what Spotify's APIs offer which is
 less than what especially the desktop Apps. The difference to Spotify's
 smartphone Apps is less significant and especially the 3rd party Spotify
 App has some functionality of it's own (building a library)

Thanks for the reply.  I'm not entirely sure I follow.  Are you saying
that the Spotify PC application itself offers more features than what
the APIs offered by SpotifyConnect do, which in turn offers more
features than you could find with LMS remote control apps? 

It seems that short of running the Spotify application on the PC and
controlling it with Spotimote, the best way to control Spotify would be
to airplay it if using iOS, or using Chromecast on Android (when it
arrives, if ever.)  Actually the latter would be the very best, as you
would have the benefits of the full blown mobile app, yet you wouldn't
need to tether the mobile device with the actual player.



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Re: [slim] Can I use the Spotify app to initiate playback to my server/player?

2014-05-03 Thread pippin

Spotify Connect isn't an API. It's a piece of Spotify-software running
on a dedicated chipset.
It works like AirPlay or ChromeCast in that it just takes the URL as
sent from the Spotify App and plays it.

Spotify has a set of (older) APIs plus their semi-public libspotify
library you can use to integrate with it. Both of these are what
essentially all pre-Spotify Connect Spotify integrations like the one
for the Squeezebox or Sonos are using.

These APIs don't support a lot of the functionality Spotify is offering
through their own Apps, especially for the desktop client which has an
App API of it's own (the prolific use of the term App these days makes
talking about things related to software increasingly annoying).

Logitech's implementation is primarily limited by Spotify's UI
guidelines (it's pretty much exactly what Spotify expected an official
implementation to do until 9 month or so ago).
The 3rd party plugin offers some more fucntionality but you can't use
things like Spotify radio or, say, playing Last.fm loved tracks.

You are right about AirPlay but WRT Chromecast: I don't think anything
other than Spotify Connect will allow you to not tether the device. The
reason is that there's a DRM concept integrated into the streaming and
only Spotify Connect supports that natively.



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[slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread Benefactor

Always wondered why a couple of album titles show up in a different
place than they should in the alphabetical music folder listing of LMS.

Artist names in folder title are spelled correctly, and there doesn't
seem to be any weird metadata in the FLAC song names.

Any ideas?



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread dasmueller

More detail would be helpful. You speak of the metadata of the songs.
What about the tags of the albums themselves. The folder name is
inconsequential unless the tags mirror it.



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread SlimChances

Benefactor wrote: 
 Always wondered why a couple of album titles show up in a different
 place than they should in the alphabetical music folder listing of LMS.
 
 Artist names in folder title are spelled correctly, and there doesn't
 seem to be any weird metadata in the FLAC song names.
 
 Any ideas?

If there are different artists on some tracks this may be reflected in
the tags and result in the album showing up under more than one artist



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread Benefactor

dasmueller wrote: 
 More detail would be helpful.

I have lots of jazz albums...Miles Davis, Bill Evans, etc.

Some of them do not appear in alphabetical order in the music folder
list, and I've never been able to figure out why this is.

How might I fix this?



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread JJZolx

Explain exactly what you mean by music folder list. How are you
browsing? On the Squeezebox player (which model?) or in the Squeezebox
Controller, or in the web interface, or ...? And which method are you
using - Artists, Albums, Genres, Music Folder or some other means?



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread Benefactor

web interface  music folder.

Odd sort only seems to happen with a few titles.



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread dasmueller

You say some of them do not show up in alphabetical order. From that I
gather that some Miles Davis and Bill Evans show up in the correct spot
alphabetically.  Is That correct ? It also sounds as if you are
searching LMS using My Music, Artists and then the problem
folders/albums do not show where you think they should be ?

If that is the case what I would do is to look at the tags in MP3Tag for
both the ones that show up correctly and the ones that do not. This
sounds like a tagging issue of some sort.  Also look at the extended
tags by highlighting the album and then right click, select extended
tags. This will show tags one would not see in the normal view.

The tagging process is tedious but not all that difficult. It is best to
develop a scheme that works for how you want things to appear and to
follow it in an almost anal manner.  Also be sure to check the tags of
albums that you may download over the internet, and/or tag using
internet databases.  Their tags may not fit the scheme you want to use.
If they are tagged using an internet database check them after you Ok
them, do not rely on what you see in the limited fields available prior
to making the selection.

Again more detail would be helpful.



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread ply3908

Leading blank?



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread Benefactor

This is using the music folder display in web interface of LMS.

Out of dozens of Miles Davis and Bill Evans albums that appear in
correct alphabetical order, there are a few that appear in what seems
randomly out of place...elsewhere.

Thanks for those trying to lend a hand...I'm sorry if my question is not
specific enough.



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread JJZolx

Ok. When browsing the Music Folder (BMF), the tagging of the files
should not matter - only the folder and file names. What convention do
you use to name your folders and files and what kind of
hierarchy/nesting structure do you use?



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread Benefactor

JJZolx wrote: 
 Ok. When browsing the Music Folder (BMF), the tagging of the files
 should not matter - only the folder and file names. What convention do
 you use to name your folders and files and what kind of
 hierarchy/nesting structure do you use?

I'm not sure...I haven't messed with the settings inside LMS.

I would have thought like you said, that when browsing the music folder
that the tagging of files shouldn't matter, yet I still get a display
like this -

Any ideas?

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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread JJZolx

All I can suggest is check the L's in the first Bill in that folder
name. Could they be something else?



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread JJZolx

What you might even try is to rename the folder and then rename it back.



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread Benefactor

The L's are really L's...and the albums sort correctly in windows
explorer, just not in the LMS music folder list...has always kind of
bugged me.

It is just a few titles, not really a huge issue.

Renaming them, and naming them again makes no difference in the LMS
sort.

Thanks for trying to help.



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread dasmueller

Have you checked the tags ?  How the folders are named/labeled is of no
significance. What matters are the tags for the albums.  For example I
can have a folder named 7-16-2001 Grateful Dead. If that is how the
album is tagged in the Album Field it would show up at the top of the
list as #s appear before letters.  If it is tagged as Grateful Dead
7-16-2001 it would show under Grateful Dead.



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread Mnyb

Yes when using music folder its the OS that sorts them. Numbers first
etc ,

But why not have proper tags and go with artist and album ?




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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread JJZolx

Mnyb wrote: 
 Yes when using music folder its the OS that sorts them. Numbers first
 etc ,
No, when using Browse Music Folder, the directories are stored in the
database, so they're sorted there.



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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread Mnyb

JJZolx wrote: 
 No, when using Browse Music Folder, the directories are stored in the
 database, so they're sorted there.

Ok so the file and folder names are also in the dB . I just never
noticed a break with the host os ?

But the web UI does not present preceding and  duoble spaces for
example..




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Re: [slim] Reasons why an album does not show up in the correct place in music folder list?

2014-05-03 Thread JJZolx

I never use BMF, so couldn't really say. I think you can get a slightly
different ordering compared to Windows because of how windows collates
some punctuation characters, but this shouldn't apply to the OP's
problem.



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