Re: [slim] LMS and Sonos - trying
Back home for some tests - this is unfortuately unusable. Sonos streams properly from http:///stream.mp3 but the delay for start or stop is like 30 seconds. Propably just the fact that this is heavily buffered and the Sonos client just get the stream from LMS "as it is", LMS is just a http audio server. Well I guess I will have at least to get back to squeezelite and translate a few commands to Sonos as an uPnP client. This will obviously be a long journey :-). I'v seen other threads where people manage to have something similar, but not exactly that, especially no sycn and lot of transcoding that I'd like to avoid. If I cannot make it work with at minimum a sync between LMS and Sonos, then I'd better stick to my current HW solution which provides perfect audio synchro, just with that limitation that the whole Sonos system is seens a single player by LMS philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102172 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS and Sonos - trying
In fact, I was thinking that is I can get a multiple instance of SqueezeLite, all feeding different streams connected to Sonos controller, it might be an interesting solution. In other words SqueezeLite:1 ==> Stream:1 ==> Sonos device:1 SqueezeLite:2 ==> Stream:2 ==> Sonos device:2 . . . . . SqueezeLite:N ==> Stream:N ==> Sonos device:N So, from LMS, each Sonos device would be a separated SqueezeLite entity, so it would be independently controllable as far as volume and what is played on to it. From Sonos controller, what is needed is to play a different stream on each device. Synchronization is not likely to work, but it can be achieved by connecting multiple Sonos devices to a single stream It might be a resource hog, I don't know but I'll try with one first to see if it is possible to easily procude a stream (like a radio stream) that Sonos would recognize and if it works, then I'll see how to hack Squeezelite and a simple streamer. I realize it might not work at all, but can be a fun result :-) Thoughts ? philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102172 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] LMS and Sonos - trying
I'me creating that new thread to try to reach a decent solution on that. I'd copy first a few existing messages from other threads that I've exchanged my working solution today - Sonos cannot point to LMS, they ignore each other. What Sonos does well is distributing analog source connected to the line-in of any capable device (a play:5 or a connect) to any other device in the Sonos system and keeping them fully in sync. So it is as simple as connecting the line-out of a SB3 or a Touch or a Receiver to any Sonos device with Line-In. Then _that_ Squeezebox device becomes your bridge. In other words, you have to always play on that SB device to be able to listen to your music on the Sonos system. The Sonos is, to some extend, just used as wireless speakers with enhanced synchronization capabilities. What is amazing is that when I tried that, I was expecting the Sonos system to delay the analog input to a few 100ms and have to delay all my Squeezebox devices to take that into account, I was expecting awfull jitter at all - well, not at all (and I've been using that for almost 2 years). There is no audible delay between an analog input of a Sonos system and that same music forwarded to any other sonos devices - this is just instant "forward" So, what is played on my Sonos "extensions" is fully controlled by my Squeezebox system (I use iPeng a lot, it is really a great piece of software). The only time when I use the Sonos controller is to mute / unmute / group Sonos speakers as, again, all the Sonos speakers appears as "one single entity" to the SB system. But that's all. Of course, at any time, you can ask the Sonos system to play something else than the line-in of (eg) a Play:5. The Sonos system is pointing to the same folder containing my music, so everything is as well available "natively" Say you have Kitchen : Boombox Dinner room : SB3 on amplifier speakers Bedroom : Radio you add Sonos devices Dinner room : Play:5 Bedroom : 2xSonos:1 Connect line-out of SB3 to the Play:5 line-in using a Y connector To play on the Sonos(Dinner) or Sonos(Bedroom), the caveat is that you have to play on SB(Kitchen). On Sonos, configure it to re-play Sonos(Dinner:LineIn) to Sonos(Bedroom) and/or Sonos(Dinner). Using your prefered SB controller, then do what you used to do, and all speakers in Bedroom will play in perfect sync, although they are a combo of Sonos and Squeezebox. If you want to switch off Sonos(Dinner) or Sonos(Bedroom), use the Sonos application on your preferred smartphone. You can also dedicated an "old" Squeezebox receiver to be the bridge between the system, not connected to any speaker - in that case, no annoyance of having mandatory sound to be heard in one room to bridge to Sonos. I feel it is a very smooth transition or a very good combo philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102172 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
philippe_44 wrote: > Bummer ... Sonos recognizes the stream and LMS shows it as a device. > That's cool but that device cannot be synchronized. So that's a good > start, but the missing sync is making that a less interesting feature > than my hardware bridge > > [edit] : a Sonos client cannot be added to an existing stream, it can > only be the leader of the stream. But, 2 Sonos clients can be sync > together ... hmmm ... need to investigate why Back home for some tests - this is unfortuately unusable. Sonos streams properly from http:///stream.mp3 but the delay for start or stop is like 30 seconds. Propably just the fact that this is heavily buffered and the Sonos client just get the stream from LMS "as it is", LMS is just a http audio server. Well I guess I will have at least to get back to squeezelite and translate a few commands to Sonos as an uPnP client. This will obviously be a long journey :-). I'v seen other threads where people manage to have something similar, but not exactly that, especially no sycn and lot of transcoding that I'd like to avoid. If I cannot make it work with at minimum a sync between LMS and Sonos, then I'd better stick to my current HW solution which provides perfect audio synchro, just with that limitation that the whole Sonos system is seens a single player by LMS philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
bluegaspode wrote: > An update has been sent to Apple, fixing the rendering issues in the > menus. > > Now its up to Apple how fast they "review" the App. Expect it to be > about 5 days from now on. Very good, thank you for the update. I look forward to testing. SamS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
An update has been sent to Apple, fixing the rendering issues in the menus. Now its up to Apple how fast they "review" the App. Expect it to be about 5 days from now on. Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102134 Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch 5G - Yes, show me the status bar! - No, I prefer to have the clean screen. - I don't care Hi Pippin, The screenshots look great. Since some "different" requests are showing up in this thread, what are the prospects for having a 1-10 rating control? There seem to be a number of iOS star rating widgets that accept half stars, and, while (I hope) this is a simple request, it would make more of a difference to my daily use than almost anything else you could do. Thanks for everything you do, Mike mps's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102134 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Stream google play music
The final missing piece was to upgrade from 4.8 to the latest 4.9 nightly, and now it's working :) I understand this was only fixed in the last few days, so using the latest nightly is important. Thanks very much for creating this! mps wrote: > I've completed the installation steps now, but unfortunately, it does > everything but play music :( I can browse my library and tell it to > create an all access playlist and it loads it up with songs. However, no > music comes out when its playing. I've validated that my local libraries > and other radio stations play alright, but so far the Google Music > plugin only gives me a pretty now playing screen (below). Any idea what > could be going wrong? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > 16414 mps's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99482 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
Thanks for the links! I checked several suppliers of ready-made VortexBox boxes and as far as I can see, they all use standard parts and cases, some even have very detailed lists of components. So I should be able to build my own in order to replace my ASRock Ion 330 working as a server and the Duet connected to my amp :) I'll check out the VortexBox forum as well. - *ASRock Ion 330* with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS running LMS 7.8.1 as music/video server - *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), Archos 35 Home Connect + SqueezePlayer (guest bathroom) - *Duet* (living room) -> Parasound DAC 1500 -> vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (with 42E equalizer, 42T tape deck, and Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) -> Quadral Vulkan Mk II speakers wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
mcdudeabides wrote: > I've bought a couple from Small Green Computer (Andrew, the founder of > Vortexbox, store front) and built several for family and friends. I > think it is one of the best Linux platforms for a LMS based media > platform. Keep in mind that it goes beyond just trying to host LMS and > provides a number of other services (CD ripping, metadata via BLISS, > FLAC->MP3 sync, etc.) as well. The community also is constantly > extending the platform and you can find a number of useful > utilities/add-ons. If the Vortexbox interests you, then you might want > to drop in on their forum directly. The community is very helpful and > Ron Olsen is an omnipresent guru that helps with all matter of things > (very helpful for giving non-Linux users context and perspective for > some of the internals). > > http://vortexbox.org/forum > http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/ agree. I have 3 Vortexboxes (purchased from Small Green Computer, but since updated to the latest VB 2.3 OS). One can use these simply as servers for hardware SBs or use the included "squeezelite" players to have one or more software SB players residing within the VB and feeding analog (or more likely, USB > DAC) outputs for different locations. All using LMS and controllable with the same things (webGUI, iPeng, etc.). *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > Squeezelite *Spares:* several Touch, Radio, SB3 *Controllers:* iPhone4S & iPad2 (iPeng7 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
wortgefecht wrote: > > Does anyone here have any experience with a dedicated Vortexbox 2.3 box, > preferably home built? I've bought a couple from Small Green Computer (Andrew, the founder of Vortexbox, store front) and built several for family and friends. I think it is one of the best Linux platforms for a LMS based media platform. Keep in mind that it goes beyond just trying to host LMS and provides a number of other services (CD ripping, metadata via BLISS, FLAC->MP3 sync, etc.) as well. The community also is constantly extending the platform and you can find a number of useful utilities/add-ons. If the Vortexbox interests you, then you might want to drop in on their forum directly. The community is very helpful and Ron Olsen is an omnipresent guru that helps with all matter of things (very helpful for giving non-Linux users context and perspective for some of the internals). http://vortexbox.org/forum http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/ mcdudeabides's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57765 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I want to build a Squeeze player
DJanGo wrote: > H > There are netter dacs like eG > http://www.tjaekel.com/T-DAC/raspi_rca.html > Hifiberry Blocks to Many pins and a player without a Display is just > half the Fun > > Just google raspberry squeezeplayer or Look Here in this Forum Are these DACs compatible with PiCorePlayer software though? I noticed on my first Raspberry Pi player (PiOne!) that the settings support only 2-3 DACs. J http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net dBpoweramp Cisco E4200 SBS 7.8 - i7 laptop - Win 8 64bit 3 Booms, 2 Radio, 1 Touch, 1 iPod Touch w/digital dock 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Various apps including iPeng, Logitech Android, etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 246,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 12 TB HD Onkyo TX-NR818, KEF Q300/Q200/iQ30, Outlaw LFM-1 Plus jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102058 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
cliveb wrote: > And they want $2.5k for this? Well, at least it isn't as bad as the $6,500 you have to pay for the same stuff in a 'McIntosh box' (http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Products/pages/categorylanding.aspx?CatId=MediaStreamers). "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
cliveb wrote: > It would appear to be a Vortexbox in nice case. > It even has the Vortexbox logo on the front. > And they want $2.5k for this? > Pre-built 2TB Vortexbox servers can be had on eBay for about £300 Thank you for introducing me to Vortexbox :) Unfortunately, I haven't heard of that until now ... Looks like what I need, LMS, Squeezelite and Google Play Music plugin! Some years ago I picked up a used Reson rh1 (a modified Hifidelio Pro) for a few bucks, but since it only came with a 80 gb hdd AND was pre-filled by the previous owner who forgot (!) to wipe his collection from it, I only toyed around with it for a while. Now it's collecting dust. The Reson rh1: 16418 http://www.justhifi.de/Reson_rh1_a3131.html Does anyone here have any experience with a dedicated Vortexbox 2.3 box, preferably home built? +---+ |Filename: Reson_rh1_a3131_1.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16418| +---+ - *ASRock Ion 330* with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS running LMS 7.8.1 as music/video server - *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), Archos 35 Home Connect + SqueezePlayer (guest bathroom) - *Duet* (living room) -> Parasound DAC 1500 -> vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (with 42E equalizer, 42T tape deck, and Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) -> Quadral Vulkan Mk II speakers wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Use Squeezebox with wireless speakers
Not the cheapest but nice anyway. The new Crescendo from Martin Logan 16417 +---+ |Filename: mlwireless.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16417| +---+ Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
