Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?
Check out Roon (https://roonlabs.com), it is a next Generation LMS. You do have to pay, but it is worth every penny IMHO. Transporter, DR-1 Teflon Interconnect Monarchy Audio NM24 Tube DAC/Line Amplifier, Transparent MusicLink Plus Interconnects Monarchy Audio SM-100 Delux Mk II, Transparent MusicWave Plus Vandersteen 2ce Signature speakers Whats's the dynamic range of your music? http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ AcidCitrus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] "New Music" - is it possible to edit?
As promised, here is how I use mp3tag to modify tags within the library and let LMS detect the changes but prevent a change of the order in New Music. There are two batch files, SaveLastWriteTime.cmd and IncrementLastWriteTime.cmd: 22173 The first saves the last modification time of a file to a text file at the same place where the original file lives. The second reads the time back, increments it by one second, sets this as the new modification time of the original file and deletes the text file. Both batch files use powershell commands to process the time stamps. I'm not a powershell guru but occasionally just try to find my way through. Since powershell has some security measures built in, you should try whether the batch files work out-of-the-box for you. Just copy the files to any folder and drag a file to SaveLastWriteTime.cmd. It should temporarily open a console window and create the text file besides the original file. In case of problems the console window will stay open and you can check the error message. To use the batch files in mp3tag, open Options->Tools and add two new entries like this: Name: SaveLastWriteTime Path: c:\path\to\SaveLastWriteTime.cmd Parameter: "%_path%" (with the double quotes) Be sure to check "for all selected files" (similar for IncrementLastWriteTime.cmd) Now when you right-click one or more tracks in mp3tag you can select Tools->SaveLastWriteTime and for each selected file a console window will open and perform the command. At first sight the many opening windows might be confusing and I wouldn't apply this for hundreds of files at once. And even if it takes several seconds to startup lots of powershell commands in parallel, all console windows should finally disappear. Now you can edit the tags. When your done, don't forget to select the same files again and open Tools->IncrementLastWriteTime from the context menu for modifying the time stamps and deleting the text files. +---+ |Filename: ModifyLastWriteTime.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22173| +---+ reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107000 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?
liffy99 wrote: > Thanks for all the comments guys and apologies for my lack of knowledge. > Sure, I have an LMS system running but I got there pretty much by > following instructions rather than acquiring any knowledge of Linux, > nomenclature etc. Talk of clients, servers, distros etc just gets me > confused ! > By the way I have a RPI 3, running picoreplayer ( I assume this is the > 'client', and LMS on the Vortexbox the server, and Squeezepad on the > IPad simply accesses LMS over wifi. > Perhaps I have asked the wrong sort of question, so let's assume I have > nothing and want to build a system from scratch. What would I need ? > 1) A Windows PC ( the server) > 2) music Library (FLAC) stored on PC hard drive > 3) LMS running on PC ( or an alternative as the GUi is a bit dated now > and I may want to handle films later) > 4) A client that receives streamed music from the server and feeds my > stereo (picoreplayer player, or alternative, on the client ( eg RPI, > squeezebox etc) > 5) Tablet software to access and control LMS > > When it was suggested running everything on a RPI what was meant ? Just > having a single RPI connected to a hard drive ( would this just store > the music library or other software ?). Would LMS and, say, picoreplayer > all fit on the RPI SD card ? And how then do I get files onto the hard > disk ? > > Oh for a diagram ! > > Cheers Deep Breath ;) The latest version of Picoreplayer has an option to install LMS. Therefore you can make a Pi that is both Player(Client) and LMS(Server) all in one. I'll keep this simple ! The LMS needs a Music store. With LMS on Pcp this can be a USB Hard drive (it can be lots of things but as I said keep it simple) To get your music onto the USB Disk you can turn the Pi off and plug you USB HDD into your desktop, easy but not very elegant ! In Pcp there is (Now) also a system called samba this allows you to transfer Music for PC (Or MAC) over the network, Much more elegant ! If you have other player or wish to add them this first Pi can also sever music to them. To try it out all you need is an external USB HDD and a usdcard (I only use 8GB ones) ! I would be happy to help you try it. As for controllers there are So Many ! :) Ipeng on iOS, Orangesqueeze on Android, Jivelite on windows mac and linux (and if you really want to push the envelope IR remote and Pi Touchscreen Hope this helps Jeff *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard *Server:* LMS Version: 7.9.0 - 1475786002 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud *Remotes:* iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite *Music:* 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?
Thanks for all the comments guys and apologies for my lack of knowledge. Sure, I have an LMS system running but I got there pretty much by following instructions rather than acquiring any knowledge of Linux, nomenclature etc. Talk of clients, servers, distros etc just gets me confused ! By the way I have a RPI 3, running picoreplayer ( I assume this is the 'client', and LMS on the Vortexbox the server, and Squeezepad on the IPad simply accesses LMS over wifi. Perhaps I have asked the wrong sort of question, so let's assume I have nothing and want to build a system from scratch. What would I need ? 1) A Windows PC ( the server) 2) music Library (FLAC) stored on PC hard drive 3) LMS running on PC ( or an alternative as the GUi is a bit dated now and I may want to handle films later) 4) A client that receives streamed music from the server and feeds my stereo (picoreplayer player, or alternative, on the client ( eg RPI, squeezebox etc) 5) Tablet software to access and control LMS When it was suggested running everything on a RPI what was meant ? Just having a single RPI connected to a hard drive ( would this just store the music library or other software ?). Would LMS and, say, picoreplayer all fit on the RPI SD card ? And how then do I get files onto the hard disk ? Cheers liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?
castalla wrote: > Plex is NO substitute for LMSBut, it can be nice complement. I am a 10 year > Plus LMS user. But I am also a Plex user primarily for my Video recordings. Things that Plex does for your Music collection that LMS doesn't: 1. Puts your entire music and video collection online accessible with cellphone, anywhere on the planet etc. 2. Provides a much more modern UI into your music and video collection than LMS. 3. Ability to share your collection with Friends and Family. Plex doesn't integrate directly with Squeezebox clients so you can't control them from a Plex. There are headless Plex RPi clients so theoretically you could do a LMS type system but I haven't tried this. With newer NAS devices like the fantastic Qnap 251+, which has transcoding features for Plex and can run LMS as a "Docker Container", there is no downside to running both on the same machine and enjoy the benefits. It Plex could incorporate the LMS protocol then Plex might move ahead. I'm not sure there is much interest in that on the Plex side. Plex may attempt to move in on Roon's territory regarding music? -CB ctbarker32's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] "New Music" - is it possible to edit?
*Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107000 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] "New Music" - is it possible to edit?
reinholdk wrote: > I made two actions for mp3tag that are invoked by right-clicking the > tracks. These actions are calling two power shell scripts that save and > later read+increment the file modification time. So all can be done from > inside mp3tag. > > I can attach them here later if there's interest. Yes, post please *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.9 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.9 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9 > Squeezelite *Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win8(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107000 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?
Plex is a good music server except for two things, no Replay Gain and no easy\obvious way to add and play internet radio. LMS is STILL the best music server software out there. Regards Bernt SB Touch to Yamaha A-S501, Boston Acoustics A26. SB 3 to Audio Pro T3. SB BOOM SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] "New Music" - is it possible to edit?
Wirrunna wrote: > This is an old one. J.J.Jolz explained it all years ago. > > I use MP3Tag to update tags and have MP3Tag Options / Tags - Preserve > file modification time when saving tags - ticked. > > Then I use BulkFileChanger to add 5 seconds to the File Modification > Time, that way a scan picks up the change. > > > Now, to edit the "New Music" order, I open the folder for the out of > order album and check the file modification dates, usually the cover.jpg > should give you a good clue as to when the music was added, so I just > use BulkFileChanger to reset the modification date. I made two actions for mp3tag that are invoked by right-clicking the tracks. These actions are calling two power shell scripts that save and later read+increment the file modification time. So all can be done from inside mp3tag. I can attach them here later if there's interest. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107000 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?
Would agree with Castalla and D6jg Plex is not a replacement for LMS As D6jg says there are a lot of tools to rip cd for Windows I use "EZ CD Audio Convertor" but there are many others. I tried vortex box and a few other "Auto ripping" systems, I hated them all when they get a cover wrong its a pain to repair etc You could setup a Raspberry Pi with Picore player, LMS and an USB Hard drive (for Music storage) and rip your CD's on the Windows machine and store them on the Pi for the LMS to server to whatever squeeze player you like. I'm sure you'll get plenty of help here if you ask, It can be a bit daunting to start. Jeff *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard *Server:* LMS Version: 7.9.0 - 1475786002 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud *Remotes:* iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite *Music:* 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?
Starting at the top. There are lots of FLAC players for OSx - but I would install Squeezeplay which you will find here -> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/squeezeplay/osx/ You can run Plex on Windows. Is it as good as LMS ? Not as an audio only media server IMHO. Can Plex do what Vortexbox does ? No. However there are lots of toolf for Windows that easily rip CD's and then allow you to save them in any format. dbPoweramp which costs about £40 is probably the best. You still haven't really said what is wrong with the Vortexbox you have. Is it ancient ? *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving away from LMS ?
liffy99 wrote: > At present I have a Vortexbox appliance running LMS and the Vortexbox > software. I access it through my IMac which works most of the time > although there can be the occasional glitch with file permissions etc. I > can also access LMS over the web on the IMac although it won't play any > files (it finds them though) as the Mac does not support FLAC. At least > I assume this is the reason. > The VBA streams music content over wifi to my Raspberry Pi running > PiCorePLayer and thence, via SPDIF, to my stereo. I control the > interface with Squeezepad on an IPad. > > Given that LMS support no longer exists I am wondering whether I can > start again with something else - and hopefully run everything (normal > PC functions like Office, web browsing, mail etc) AND music and film > library from one box. > > BUT my technical knowledge is sadly lacking and I'm always struggling to > understand much of the terminology and way forward. > > SO, in as simple terms as possible, can I do this ? I was thinking; > > 1) Build a fanless, quiet Windows PC. > 2) Create 2 partitions (if necessary) - one to run all the usual PC > stuff and the second to accommodate Plex Media Server and libraries. > 3) Install a Plex client on the Raspberry Pi (I assume there is one) > 4) Install another Plex client on the Ipad to act as a remote control > 5) Ensure I have an optical drive on the PC to rip files when needed > (will Plex do this or do I need other software, like EAC, to manually > rip). > 6) Ensure I have large enough disk storage to accommodate music, films > and general PC stuff. > 7) Ensure I have a backup drive > > But I've loads of questions, for example; > Does Plex offer the convenience of the Vortexbox software for certain > functions (eg auto-CD ripping, incremental backups etc) ? > I'm thinking of a Windows based PC but not wholly averse to Apple - > although I find their very closed universe very limiting when it comes > to upgrading, peripherals etc. > > Has anyone done anything similar ? > I've been surfing to try and find information at a beginner level but > just seem to be wading through very difficult technical discussions most > of the time. > > So, can I do this, is Plex a viable substitute for LMS / Vortexbox, and > where do I start ? > > Thanks Plex is NO substitute for LMS Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Moving away from LMS ?
At present I have a Vortexbox appliance running LMS and the Vortexbox software. I access it through my IMac which works most of the time although there can be the occasional glitch with file permissions etc. I can also access LMS over the web on the IMac although it won't play any files (it finds them though) as the Mac does not support FLAC. At least I assume this is the reason. The VBA streams music content over wifi to my Raspberry Pi running PiCorePLayer and thence, via SPDIF, to my stereo. I control the interface with Squeezepad on an IPad. Given that LMS support no longer exists I am wondering whether I can start again with something else - and hopefully run everything (normal PC functions like Office, web browsing, mail etc) AND music and film library from one box. BUT my technical knowledge is sadly lacking and I'm always struggling to understand much of the terminology and way forward. SO, in as simple terms as possible, can I do this ? I was thinking; 1) Build a fanless, quiet Windows PC. 2) Create 2 partitions (if necessary) - one to run all the usual PC stuff and the second to accommodate Plex Media Server and libraries. 3) Install a Plex client on the Raspberry Pi (I assume there is one) 4) Install another Plex client on the Ipad to act as a remote control 5) Ensure I have an optical drive on the PC to rip files when needed (will Plex do this or do I need other software, like EAC, to manually rip). 6) Ensure I have large enough disk storage to accommodate music, films and general PC stuff. 7) Ensure I have a backup drive But I've loads of questions, for example; Does Plex offer the convenience of the Vortexbox software for certain functions (eg auto-CD ripping, incremental backups etc) ? I'm thinking of a Windows based PC but not wholly averse to Apple - although I find their very closed universe very limiting when it comes to upgrading, peripherals etc. Has anyone done anything similar ? I've been surfing to try and find information at a beginner level but just seem to be wading through very difficult technical discussions most of the time. So, can I do this, is Plex a viable substitute for LMS / Vortexbox, and where do I start ? Thanks liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107002 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] "New Music" - is it possible to edit?
Wirrunna wrote: > This is an old one. J.J.Jolz explained it all years ago. > > I use MP3Tag to update tags and have MP3Tag Options / Tags - Preserve > file modification time when saving tags - ticked. > > Then I use BulkFileChanger to add 5 seconds to the File Modification > Time, that way a scan picks up the change. > > > Now, to edit the "New Music" order, I open the folder for the out of > order album and check the file modification dates, usually the cover.jpg > should give you a good clue as to when the music was added, so I just > use BulkFileChanger to reset the modification date. Like it :) Simple logic *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107000 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
