Re: [slim] Transporter heat

2017-11-29 Thread Antoniop

Fizbin wrote: 
> Mine never gets hot. On the left side, it's barely warm in the winter
> and gets a little warm in the summer. I suppose if it's in a closed
> cabinet (particularly if there is no ventilation at all) it's going to
> heat up more.
> 
> I have a PS3 that gets super hot (even when off) if I close my cabinet.
> So I have to leave the door open.

Hi,
Thanks for the thoughts, I suppose I should keep the door open or
arrange some more ventilation.



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Re: [slim] T-Class amp recommendations

2017-11-29 Thread Julf

"Class T" was just a fancy name for tripath's class D stuff. Class D is
much older than tripath.



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Re: [slim] Cross referencing 2 large music collections ?

2017-11-29 Thread garym

dasmueller wrote: 
> I have a backup already. The reason I am doing this is that my primary
> music folder is on a 1 TB HDD which has only about 30 G free space.
> backup is a 1.5 TB HDD so it has plenty of space. I bought a 2 TB
> Toshiba external from Amazon for $64 which I thought was a great price.
> The plan is to use the 2 TB as the primary and then take the 1 TB and
> convert everything to mp3 and give it to my son who only uses mp3s.

good plan. amazing how cheap USB storage is getting. I recently bought
some 4TB USB drives the size of a pack of cigarettes and they were
pretty cheap as I recall.



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Re: [slim] Pandora Plus still working with LMS these days?

2017-11-29 Thread psp

I've used Pandora Plus on my SBT's for several years (zero problems, LMS
v 7.7.3 r16676... several years old).  I'm considering Pandora Premium;
any issues or advice?

Many thanks,
Peter



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Re: [slim] Cross referencing 2 large music collections ?

2017-11-29 Thread dasmueller

I have a backup already. The reason I am doing this is that my primary
music folder is on a 1 TB HDD which has only about 30 G free space.
backup is a 1.5 TB HDD so it has plenty of space. I bought a 2 TB
Toshiba external from Amazon for $64 which I thought was a great price.
The plan is to use the 2 TB as the primary and then take the 1 TB and
convert everything to mp3 and give it to my son who only uses mp3s.



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Re: [slim] Preamp advice

2017-11-29 Thread d6jg

Thanks Tex

You have alerted me to another issue with the ART that I hadn't
spotted.
Its an ADC only and not a combined ADC/DAC which the Behringer DJ Mixer
is.
The ART also requires purchase of a separate power adapter and although
it has good write ups I wonder whether it is sufficiently heavy - I
suspect it might be easily possible to accidentally pull it out of
position with a pair of headphones.
I have looked at both the Project & Rega preamps already and they both
fall short as they are also ADCs only and don't have a headphone out.

The Behringer UFO-202 mentioned earlier is 2 way ADC/DAC and has both
line & headphone out and I suspect would do the job but it is again
going to be easily pulled around.

The Behringer VMX100USB is the closest to what I am looking for so far
but the mixing element is never going to be required and it isn't really
Living Room aesthetically

I already have a VMX200USB in my office but its aesthetics aren't an
issue there and its functionality is exactly what I need for that
environment.

There is a hole in the market here.



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Re: [slim] Cross referencing 2 large music collections ?

2017-11-29 Thread garym

dasmueller wrote: 
> Thanks gary
> 
> I'll probably run it overnight

that's what I did. Good news is that once you have a backup drive, the
updating with changes is very fast and automatic.



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Re: [slim] Cross referencing 2 large music collections ?

2017-11-29 Thread dasmueller

Thanks gary

I'll probably run it overnight



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Re: [slim] New Classical Music Streaming Service IDAGIO - an opportunity for ICKSTREAM ?

2017-11-29 Thread MDE

It seems like Idagio has developed quite a bit since the original post.
Does anyone know how to stream it via LMS?



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Re: [slim] Preamp advice

2017-11-29 Thread Tex

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rega-Fono-Mini-A2D-Pre-Amplifier-black/dp/B0072RZ95U/ref=pd_sbs_23_2?_encoding=UTF8=1=X9XC0SWC4A6P2KYVYDZ1



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Re: [slim] Preamp advice

2017-11-29 Thread Tex

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Project-Phono-PreAmp-Variable-Output/dp/B002D83B30/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments=UTF8=1511958571=8-1=PRO-JECT+Phono+Box+II+USB

but it's still twice the price.



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Re: [slim] Preamp advice

2017-11-29 Thread Tex

For it's price range I don't think you will do any worse. I have always
used a sound card.



https://www.amazon.com/ART-USB-Phono-Plus-PS/dp/B000BBGCCI/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8=1511957436=8-21=phono+preamp

For this device, the direction of signal flow is from the low signal
level analogue domain (vinyl/LP/phono) to the digital domain
(USB/Optical). Thus, this ART unit is not a Digital-to-Analog(ue)
Converter (the "DAC" sort of unit which you specify) but its "opposite"
an "ADC" (Analogue-to-Digital Converter). This unit is also a phono
preamplifier which boosts the low voltage signal from the moving magnet
or moving coil phonograph pickup to higher "line level" in order to
drive a subsequent (in the signal path) separate amplifier--or to
supplement a hi-fi receiver or preamp lacking (as is often the case) a
phono input. 
In other words, this ART is primarily a phono preamplifier--something to
supply gain (amplification) to drive headphones or the just mentioned
follow-on analog(ue) audio switching, processing, or amplifying units. 
You might think of this ART USB Phono Plus as a tidy little combination
of two functions: (1) Phono Preamp/Headphone Monitoring Amplifier and
(2) ADC (Analog to Digital USB or Optical). 
By the way, this unit is at least the equal of anything else in its
price range with respect to preserving the audio signal quality. It is
capable of passing the usable dynamic range of which LPs are capable
without the compression mentioned by another person answering your
question... and without adding distortion you are likely to be able to
hear considering the masking effects of the much larger combined
distortions which are inherent to the recording and playback medium that
is vinyl (e.g., the "LP" phonograph record). (There are many who
disagree with this last point, however.)
Finally, the quality or fidelity of the music or other sound which you
play "off" your computer's hard drive can be no better than the quality
of the original signal encoded in digital format to your hard drive. If
you have high bit-rate, high definition source material (CD quality or
better) on your hard drive, the sound processor chip on your laptop's
motherboard is almost certainly going to degrade that signal by
contaminating it with noise and compromising its dynamic range (or
degrade other aspects of the signal as well). If high quality sound
output from high quality source material is your goal, then you'd do
better to use a high quality "soundcard" (installed in desktop computer
OR use an "outboard" soundcard (i.e., a so-called "audio interface").
ASUS makes a fine soundcard for the consumer market
(http://www.amazon.com/PCI-Express-XONAR-ESSENCE-STX-90-YAA0C0-0UAN00Z/dp/B001OV789U/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics=UTF8=1422964422=1-2=asus+sound+card+xonar)
but be sure to read the review comments to get the installation right
from the get-go on Windows machines. If you are an audiophile, you can
find computer soundcards costing almost 10 times what the ASUS does...
but not sounding appreciably better. As far as the external audio
interfaces go, there are many excellent, quite affordable (from
$100-$500... or more, of course) devices aimed at musicians and
recordists for use in their semi-pro (or pro) home studios. 
These days, in a given price range, the digital signal processing chips
used in these devices are either the same or very close cousins of one
another (sourcing from just a few chip makers). You can see that in how
close the specs are between brands and models in a given range. Thus,
the differences in price often have more to do with features and
flexibility (e.g., numbers and types of inputs and outputs), build
quality and best engineering practices, and, of course, "brand
reputation"--than the fundamental parameters



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Re: [slim] Preamp advice

2017-11-29 Thread d6jg

Tex wrote: 
> I use a Creative Sound card X7 fed with a NAD phono preamp.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Delectronics=Sound+Blaster+X7
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/NAD-PP-2e-Phono-Preamplifier/dp/B00IFMM7TC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=1511909442=1-1=NAD+pre
> 
> Which is more expensive than what you are looking at.
> 
> But I also use iZotope RX6 to eliminate pops & hiss. Then I use Ozone 5
> it's up to 8 now to remaster my rips. I find it improves the sound. 
> 
> https://www.izotope.com/en/products/repair-and-edit/rx.html
> 
> https://www.izotope.com/en/products/master-and-deliver/ozone.html

Thanks but as you say that is definitely more expensive that what I am
looking for.

It terms of functionality I am looking for something like these but more
hi-fi ish

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-VMX100USB-Channel-Pro-Mixer/dp/B003E1OVTI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1511952167=8-1=behringer+vmx100usb

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ART-USB-Phono-Plus-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B000BBGCCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1511952192=8-1=art+phono+preamp

In both cases these will do exactly what I want but ideally I'd like
something more ergonomic for the Living Room rather than a DJ Mixer or
the ART box - the latter would need power supply as I don't intend to
leave the USB permanently connected to a laptop.



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Re: [slim] T-Class amp recommendations

2017-11-29 Thread Jeff07971

d6jg wrote: 
> All of the HiFiBerry Amps and the like are Class D aren't they ?

Apparently (via google) the HifiBerry use TI's TAS5756M chip which is
quoted as a class D

Of course the Tripath was a Class D with extra enhancements others may
have reverse engineered the "enhancements" so who knows whether these re
the equivalent of class T or not.



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Re: [slim] T-Class amp recommendations

2017-11-29 Thread d6jg

All of the HiFiBerry Amps and the like are Class D aren't they ?



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Re: [slim] T-Class amp recommendations

2017-11-29 Thread Jeff07971

satkinsn wrote: 
> So here's a question: the company that developed the T amp went under a
> decade ago.
> 
> Where are all the "class T" chips coming from in 2017? Checking the web
> site of Cirrus Logic, which bought the intellectual property of Tripath,
> shows no sign of the chips being available new.
> 
> And yes, they're pretty wonderful. I have a few of them, most especially
> the Trends Audio 10.1, which was 'an audiophile darling several years
> ago' (http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/trends_ta10_e.html). I use it in my
> basement system, where it drives a pair of PSB B25s reasonably well.  
> 
> s.

There is obviously plenty of Tripath chips still around all of
Hifimediy.com s "T" series amps use them as well as others



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Re: [slim] T-Class amp recommendations

2017-11-29 Thread drmatt

Seems likely that "class D" was not copyrighted by them, only their own
implementation was protected, hence the clones. They are the future of
amplification in the same way that digital cameras eradicated film...


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