Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
I find the role of Spotify (and other streaming services) quite interesting in a generational sort of way. I grew up in an era when finding music could be quite a challenge, particularly when one was interested in rather 'alternative' genres. I do have a premium Spotify subscription, but I use it to listen to music before buying a copy (either physical or download). I don't use Spotify produced playlists. I don't expect to have a Spotify subscription for ever - either the service will change or go under in some way. Spotify generated playlists don't reflect the music I listen to (the vast majority not through Spotify) - if they used last.fm they might be able to make a better stab at it! So, under my purchase model, Spotify royalties are far from the only income stream from me to the artist and record label. I'd love to know how widespread that is! Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
SlimChances wrote: > https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-muzak-pelly > > I could never understand the allure of services of Spotify which seem to > spoon feed listeners rather than encouraging them to make the effort to > research and find music on their own; through friends, concerts, > searching music stores etc. But I guess I am out of touch with modern > ways > > > " What good will criticism be when all of music has coalesced into > algorithmically preordained Muzak?" Strange - I use Spotify almost 100% compared to the laborious 'DIY' process involved in in maintaining a squeezebox database, especially with playlists ... I can search on the web for some obscure 'tune' played in a TV series, then go to Spotify or Amazon Music, and add it to a playlist, which is then easily managed online. I've been defeated trying to find the BBC live sessions version of 'Wicked Game' by London Grammar any clues? Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] The Automation of Selling Out
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-muzak-pelly I could never understand the allure of services of Spotify which seem to spoon feed listeners rather than encouraging them to make the effort to research and find music on their own; through friends, concerts, searching music stores etc. But I guess I am out of touch with modern ways Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1504317335 @ Mon Sep 4 07:13:56 UTC 2017 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pandora Plus still working with LMS these days?
I'm using Pandora Premium. Since it's officially not available in my country, I'm using a SmartDNS service to bypass the geo ip restrictions. Besides that, no issues. marco79cgn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67637 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108017 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest Plex updates Music features
Peter Galbavy wrote: > I generally use LMS for music and Plex for video material but I have and > do use Plex for certain music applications; A number of personal > observations: > > People making comparisons between the scanners have simply not set > things up right in the first place. On the same hardware looking at the > same file and setting Plex up to use the basic (NOT premium) music > library with "use embedded tags" results in much the same time as an LMS > "clear library and scan". Similarly for re-scans. > > Gapless playback is very limited and mostly to externally maintained > clients. It's not a server deficiency but a client one and the Plex > development of music features in clients is pretty poor. > > The metadata handling of compilations / VA albums is horrible and > primitive and seems random. It ignores the COMPLILATION tag on all > formats completely and instead uses the heuristic of checking the > ARTISTS tags to see how many there are. My non-scientific estimate is if > it finds about 10% of the tracks from the same artist it puts it under > their name. ALBUM ARTIST, while supported, is poorly handled. > > On the other hand the standard interface is much better. Sync support is > excellent to mobile devices. It's slick. > > LMS wins as a nerd's music infrastructure, Plex wins as a consumer > facing system. > > I have ignored the unavailability of simple (to install and maintain) > LMS client hardware and software. If I could find a decent audio client for Plex, I'd consider moving away from LMS. Especially if it supported multi-channel audio. d6jg wrote: > I think this is a very fair assessment. I too use LMS for music and Plex > for video but do allow Plex to scan my music also. Yep, same here. SamS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103565 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest Plex updates Music features
Peter Galbavy wrote: > I generally use LMS for music and Plex for video material but I have and > do use Plex for certain music applications; A number of personal > observations: > > People making comparisons between the scanners have simply not set > things up right in the first place. On the same hardware looking at the > same file and setting Plex up to use the basic (NOT premium) music > library with "use embedded tags" results in much the same time as an LMS > "clear library and scan". Similarly for re-scans. > > Gapless playback is very limited and mostly to externally maintained > clients. It's not a server deficiency but a client one and the Plex > development of music features in clients is pretty poor. > > The metadata handling of compilations / VA albums is horrible and > primitive and seems random. It ignores the COMPLILATION tag on all > formats completely and instead uses the heuristic of checking the > ARTISTS tags to see how many there are. My non-scientific estimate is if > it finds about 10% of the tracks from the same artist it puts it under > their name. ALBUM ARTIST, while supported, is poorly handled. > > On the other hand the standard interface is much better. Sync support is > excellent to mobile devices. It's slick. > > LMS wins as a nerd's music infrastructure, Plex wins as a consumer > facing system. > > I have ignored the unavailability of simple (to install and maintain) > LMS client hardware and software. I think this is a very fair assessment. I too use LMS for music and Plex for video but do allow Plex to scan my music also. PI3 PCP/LMS STORAGE QNAP TS419P (NFS) *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103565 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest Plex updates Music features
Having said all that I am also running Emby - which is much slower on scanning music, and I've never actually used it to play music. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103565 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest Plex updates Music features
I generally use LMS for music and Plex for video material but I have and do use Plex for certain music applications; A number of personal observations: People making comparisons between the scanners have simply not set things up right in the first place. On the same hardware looking at the same file and setting Plex up to use the basic (NOT premium) music library with "use embedded tags" results in much the same time as an LMS "clear library and scan". Similarly for re-scans. Gapless playback is very limited and mostly to externally maintained clients. It's not a server deficiency but a client one and the Plex development of music features in clients is pretty poor. The metadata handling of compilations / VA albums is horrible and primitive and seems random. It ignores the COMPLILATION tag on all formats completely and instead uses the heuristic of checking the ARTISTS tags to see how many there are. My non-scientific estimate is if it finds about 10% of the tracks from the same artist it puts it under their name. ALBUM ARTIST, while supported, is poorly handled. On the other hand the standard interface is much better. Sync support is excellent to mobile devices. It's slick. LMS wins as a nerd's music infrastructure, Plex wins as a consumer facing system. I have ignored the unavailability of simple (to install and maintain) LMS client hardware and software. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103565 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
