Re: [slim] Update notification without a link or ability to update?

2021-02-05 Thread slartibartfast


pablolie wrote: 
> Hi Michael -
> 
> it's Win10 these days.
> 
> Screenshots attached it just points to a github page.
> 
> I am pretty sure I can find the SW if I really wanted too. :-)On Windows you 
> can right click on the LMS icon on the taskbar and click
"Install update"

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Re: [slim] Update notification without a link or ability to update?

2021-02-05 Thread Michael Herger

it's Win10 these days.


Don't you get a notification from the tray icon when the update is ready 
to be installed?



Screenshots attached it just points to a github page.


Well... that's what it does :-)

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Re: [slim] Update notification without a link or ability to update?

2021-02-05 Thread pablolie


Hi Michael -

it's Win10 these days.

Screenshots attached it just points to a github page.

I am pretty sure I can find the SW if I really wanted too. :-)


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...pablo
Server: Win10 and LMS 8.1.0
System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval
Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF
Reference 1
Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem
DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub
Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure
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Re: [slim] SB and Low Volume on Klipsch Promedia Setup

2021-02-05 Thread Redrum


would be to run the sb into the lipa (which will control the sub as
intended) and try to run the "speaker out" of the lipa into the
satellites, or, if you have another speaker(s) handy, just to test. Then
control the volume from the lipa.

Continuing to think, you might have three gain stages in the signal
path, the sb volume (if not 100%), the sat, and the lipa

Jim



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Re: [slim] SB and Low Volume on Klipsch Promedia Setup

2021-02-05 Thread Redrum


chill wrote: 
> In the past I've made the mistake of assuming that more power equals
> more gain.  I'm no expert, but my understanding is that although more
> power would be needed to drive an amplifier that has more gain, for an
> amplifier that has a certain gain, more power simply allows for less
> distortion.  Too little power for an amplifier with a given gain will
> lead to distortion.  So if you're hearing clean, undistorted sound but
> at a low volume, I doubt that would be because of the power supply.  It
> points more to the input signal being too low (which is what the output
> caps thread is about).
> 
> I'm happy to be corrected by those with more knowledge.

I read this thread, went away, thought about it, then return, and @chill
had replied. My thoughts exactly. No distortion is the key. It sounds
like a gain issue, or more specifically, and impedance mismatch. I am
not familiar with your klipsh 2.1 speaker setup, but it looks like the
typical "computer speaker system". I had an altec lansing system back in
the day. I remember trying to use the subwoofer for something else and
gave up because there seemed to be additional control wiring that I
didn't know what to do with. I never got it to work right. I just could
never figure out what do do with the extra wires :)

It seems like your klipsch system takes the line in signal into the
satellites, which have a volume and bass attenuator, then the signal is
fed to the sub. The sub (on the kilpsch) has no attenuation? But now the
lipa does. How do you have it hooked up? If you have the sb3 into the
sattelites then the attenuated signal into the sub, that could be your
problem, even if one of the two volumes is turned up full, it is still a
possible impedence mismatch.

I think your extra receiver experiment might be revealing

Jim



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Re: [slim] SB and Low Volume on Klipsch Promedia Setup

2021-02-05 Thread chill


In the past I've made the mistake of assuming that more power equals
more gain.  I'm no expert, but my understanding is that although more
power would be needed to drive an amplifier that has more gain, for an
amplifier that has a certain gain, more power simply allows for less
distortion.  Too little power for an amplifier with a given gain will
lead to distortion.  So if you're hearing clean, undistorted sound but
at a low volume, I doubt that would be because of the power supply.  It
points more to the input signal being too low (which is what the output
caps thread is about).

I'm happy to be corrected by those with more knowledge.



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Re: [slim] SB and Low Volume on Klipsch Promedia Setup

2021-02-05 Thread traderyoda


Heuer wrote: 
> Here is the capacitor repair thread:
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103213-Squeezebox-3-common-faults-over-time
> 
> if you don't want to mess with the caps then you can use the digital
> output via a DAC to the amp. I use a Topping E30 but others have used
> the Behringer DAC 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-UCA202-U-Control-low-latency-Interface/dp/B000KW2YEI/ref=psdc_407821031_t1_B0023BYDHK

Great tips. I actually have two Lepai unit. I'll try hooking my DC power
supply up first set at 22vdc and let the amp draw whatever amps it needs
- that should eliminate my hacked power supply as the culprit. If power
isn't the issue I'll swap out the Lepai with another and see if it's a
cap or other discrete component issue on the amp. It's possible that
this little plate amp needs more gain to work with - is should have
plenty of power to crank the Promedia equipment to at least comfortable
levels.

My bet is power supply - converting a charger to a DC power supply is an
iffy business as I have no clue how the control circuitry does and what
happens when you isolate the sense wire.

Will report back!



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Re: [slim] SB and Low Volume on Klipsch Promedia Setup

2021-02-05 Thread Heuer


Here is the capacitor repair thread:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103213-Squeezebox-3-common-faults-over-time

if you don't want to mess with the caps then you can use the digital
output via a DAC to the amp. I use a Topping E30 but others have used
the Behringer DAC 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-UCA202-U-Control-low-latency-Interface/dp/B000KW2YEI/ref=psdc_407821031_t1_B0023BYDHK



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Re: [slim] SB and Low Volume on Klipsch Promedia Setup

2021-02-05 Thread slartibartfast

traderyoda wrote: 
> I have a SB Classic hooked to a Klipsch Promedia 2.1 setup. This has
> provided good quality sound for a long time but the amp in the subwoofer
> burned up. This is typical failure mode for the Promedia system. Rather
> that replace/repair the Klipsch amp I thought to replace it with a Lepai
> LP210PA 2x30W + 60W 2.1 plate amp.
> 
> To power the Lepai I used a 20vdc HP laptop charger which should provide
> plenty of power. I converted the charger (3 wire cord) to a dc power
> supply (2 wire cord). The power plug on the charger has red (+), black
> (-), and blue (sense) – the blue wire is meant to send the laptop’s
> battery state back to the charger. I isolated the blue wire and just
> connected the remain + and – wires to a new power plug that fits the
> Lepai.
> 
> The switchover to the Lepai was quick and easy. When I turned it on the
> sound quality was excellent but with very little volume. The SB is set
> to 100% output. 
> 
> I’m confused because this Lepai conversion has been done by others and
> it should have plenty of juice to produce more volume than this. Not
> sure though if others were feeding a signal from a SB Classic.
> 
> Is there any way to up the gain on the SB?
> 
> I do have a spare Sony receiver I could try and a DC power supply to see
> my 20vdc hacked power brick is just not delivering enough power.
> Thoughts?Try using another source to feed the amplifier to rule that out.

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Re: [slim] SB and Low Volume on Klipsch Promedia Setup

2021-02-05 Thread Heuer


Could be the output capacitors have failed which causes volume loss.
Easy DIY fix if you search on the Forum for instructions.



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