Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
tusken wrote: > > After a kitchen extension, I would like to introduce some networked > audio into the kitchen, but this will need to consist of essentially one > smart speaker type device. Certainly only a one box solution. > > Forgive me, but I really dont want to build a custom made device. > Really I want an updated version of the boom, which doesnt exist! > > Worst case scenario, would one of the more intelligent smart speakers be > able to at least see the upnp server that vortexbox has, in addition to > LMS? So I can at least browse my music library that way? > > I'm trying to "read between the lines" and I may be missing something or misinterpreting what you've said. I've trimmed the above quote in an attempt to focus on your specifications. It appears to me that you want a one-piece device that is plug-and-play, other than some configuration on the device itself, and which includes a control interface that will allow you browse your library. Additionally, you do not want to upgrade your Vortexbox or the LMS running on it. I'm guessing that you would prefer not to have to do anything that requires you to use the command line. If that is essentially correct, I think your best and perhaps only option is to acquire another used Boom, or perhaps, if stereo is not important in the kitchen, a used Radio. The problem with used equipment is that you don't know how long it will continue to work. At this point, the same is true of an outdated version of LMS. If you are only playing music from your local collection, you might be able to continue doing that indefinitely. If you use online sources, it is quite possible that they will stop working with older versions of LMS. All of this is strictly my opinion, of course, and we can hope that someone will be able to provide better advice. But so far, I haven't seen any suggestions that attempt to meet all your requirements. Some good options have been suggested, such as a DAC32 connected to a speaker, but that's not a one-piece device, and it does not include a control interface. If you are willing to use your phone or a tablet as a controller, many more options are available. The Airplay speaker that someone suggested, for instance, could be used with the Airplay Bridge plugin installed in LMS. The Airplay Bridge even allows Airplay devices to be synchronized with other players, which the UPNP Bridge does not. My suggestion is that you prioritize your wants and needs. Which of the items on your checklist are most important? Which ones would be be willing to consider doing without? With a little compromise you might find there are more options. If you don't feel you can compromise on any of those points, your choices may be limited to used Squeezebox products. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Heuer wrote: > Audiostore has DAC32's: > https://www.vortexbox.co.uk/shop?store-page=DAC32-WiFi-Streamer-p347896518 Ah, yes. *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.0.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/pCP 8.0.0/Topping E30 DAC/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP/Bluetooth/Echo Show 8 *Garage* - DAC32 > Edifier speakers *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Audiostore has DAC32's: https://www.vortexbox.co.uk/shop?store-page=DAC32-WiFi-Streamer-p347896518 Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: Touch>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
coyrls wrote: > Just get one of these: > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113633-DAC32-low-cost-high-performance-music-streamer. > You can connect it to any device (radio, amplifier, powered / active > speaker) with an analogue / Aux input. That's if you can get one! If you go to their site, they don't have any stock of anything, apparently. https://polyvection.com/en/ *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.0.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/pCP 8.0.0/Topping E30 DAC/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP/Bluetooth/Echo Show 8 *Garage* - DAC32 > Edifier speakers *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Just get one of these: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113633-DAC32-low-cost-high-performance-music-streamer. You can connect it to any device (radio, amplifier, powered / active speaker) with an analogue / Aux input. coyrls's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44253 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
RobbH wrote: > Are you saying that you don't have web access to your LMS installation? > All you need to install a plugin is to be able to load http:// IP>:9000 in your web browser. Once there, you would use the Settings > link at bottom right, then go to the Plugins tab on the Settings page. Thanks for your help. Yes I do have access to lms settings, but I havent updated my version of lms for quite a long time tusken's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network traffic continues for a minute after pausing players
vinnielo wrote: > It would be rather cool if there was a buffer of about half an hour > where you're able to rewind live radio. > But I suspect hardware limitations of older Squeezeboxes make this > possibility unlikely. This really has to be done in LMS. This was asked many many years ago and I think some POC was done using something like ffmpeg to do the buffering but user control and how to identify stations to uses it and not use it , made usage clunky. It is probably harder now when users expect metadata to be provided as it is not always in the stream. Paul Webster wrote: > Stations that offer HLS make this much more practical. > A recent case came up here where a bug meant that listening via LMS was > a few hours behind. Chunked HTTP streasm (DASH/HLS) has lots of extra capabilities but only a few are being used now more often in video stream. A few audio HLS (and DASH) stream have large backups (e.g. BBC has about 3 hours on live), but others have only a few minutes so if a generic feature was offered in the HLS plugin, user will probably be disappointed. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network traffic continues for a minute after pausing players
vinnielo wrote: > It would be rather cool if there was a buffer of about half an hour > where you're able to rewind live radio. > But I suspect hardware limitations of older Squeezeboxes make this > possibility unlikely. The place to store it would be LMS running in proxy mode ... and it is already being done (sort of) as part of the code put in recently to try to improve the playing of long podcasts. My guess is that this capability could be extended to be more general purpose. However, it is already available when playing BBC radio via BBC Sounds plugin. In that case it is BBC that has the old content - with the benefit that you can rewind to the start of a programme that you join part way though which you would not be able to do with a general purpose LMS proxy cache. Stations that offer HLS make this much more practical. A recent case came up here where a bug meant that listening via LMS was a few hours behind. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin, allzic radio, caroline flashback, cesky rozhlas, dandelion radio, europa radio jazz, frequence3, fsk, jukeradio, klassikradio.de, linn radio, mother earth, naim radio, nova.fr, radioblues flac, radio espace, radio swiss, rte ireland, somehow jazz, supla finland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network traffic continues for a minute after pausing players
It would be rather cool if there was a buffer of about half an hour where you're able to rewind live radio. But I suspect hardware limitations of older Squeezeboxes make this possibility unlikely. *RadioFeeds UK & Ireland..* an up-to-date radio directory for your Squeezebox/Transporter/UE Smart Radio.. available from the mysqueezebox.com App Gallery. Bonus: our RadioFeeds LMS plugin also lists AAC *and the BBC's high-quality HLS streams* on top of what's available in our MSB app. -Now with over 1000 registered users-, it's available for Logitech Media Server (and Squeezebox Server, SqueezeCenter and SlimServer). Click for more info: *http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/squeeze* vinnielo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14510 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network traffic continues for a minute after pausing players
beneix wrote: > Actually, no Power off (whether with the hardware remote control or > via web/Squeezelite-X) has the same effect as Pause, the stream > continues for a while. But hey, it's no issue. Thanks for the response.The > effect of Power off would depend on the "Power on resume" setting in Settings/player/audio.[image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211129/bd97d4c5a4cd5369aa9f6a779d696594.jpg][image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211129/67b3d21373340fe17f12610423ceab44.jpg] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network traffic continues for a minute after pausing players
Depending on the interface ... try long press on Pause. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin, allzic radio, caroline flashback, cesky rozhlas, dandelion radio, europa radio jazz, frequence3, fsk, jukeradio, klassikradio.de, linn radio, mother earth, naim radio, nova.fr, radioblues flac, radio espace, radio swiss, rte ireland, somehow jazz, supla finland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network traffic continues for a minute after pausing players
mherger wrote: > > > > 1. Is there on the LMS web interface or on the players themselves an > > equivalent to the "Stop" on the PCP? > > Power off. > [color=blue] > Actually, no Power off (whether with the hardware remote control or via web/Squeezelite-X) has the same effect as Pause, the stream continues for a while. But hey, it's no issue. Thanks for the response. beneix's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59783 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network traffic continues for a minute after pausing players
I assume that this is by design in order to make the players ready to resume the stream instantly, and then after a set period the players conclude that the user does not want to resume and stops the stream. Correct. Interestingly, with the PCP, pressing Stop in the PCP web interface stops the traffic instantly. Pause and stop are not the same thing. 1. Is there on the LMS web interface or on the players themselves an equivalent to the "Stop" on the PCP? Power off. 2. Is there a setting somewhere that determines the time delay from "Pause" to the cutting of the stream? I don't think so. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
