[slim] No gain, no pain
Hi, I have an SB3 and a SB Boom controlled from the same server. However, I suspect that I have about 6dB less gain on the SB3. If I set both SB's with the analog VU on the display, music from my library on the Boom reaches -1 to -2 dB. However, on the SB3, it barely ever gets to -7dB. Changing the audio settings to fix the volume control to 100% on the SB3 doesn't seem to affect this. However, internet based radio stations are nice and loud on both SB's. Any thoughts? Is there a way to add ~6dB gain to the SB3, via CLI or some other means, independent of the Boom? - Thanks. -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90116 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] CPU, streamed radio stations, and the SB Server
Hi, I have a SB3 with 7.5.2. While playing internet radio stations, the CPU on the SB server will eventually get pegged at 100%, and the SB3 will lose connection. This never occurs with music or podcasts from my own library. It can take 20-30 min. to regain control of the server once this occurs. Is there a fix? The SB server is installed on an older Compaq SR2139, with AMD Athlon 64 CPU, and 2GB RAM, clocked at 2.2 GHz. Thanks and regards, Rob -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] CPU, streamed radio stations, and the SB Server
bpa;635142 Wrote: More info will help. OK bpa;635142 Wrote: What format is the audio stream being played ? ALAC bpa;635142 Wrote: Have you changed default settings ? No bpa;635142 Wrote: What process is taking bulk of CPU time according to Task Manager ? Squeeze Center -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] CPU, streamed radio stations, and the SB Server
SuperQ;635143 Wrote: Have you tried updating to 7.5.4? No, I was concerned that this rev was buggy, based on reports on this forum. SuperQ;635143 Wrote: That sounds like IO starvation more than anything. What is that? SuperQ;635143 Wrote: It would also help to know what OS you're running. Windows XP, SP3. All updates current. Other applications on this machine are iTunes and Microsoft Antivirus. Not much else. -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Q on File Formats
virgiliomi;599620 Wrote: And it does all depend. It depends on what format your music is currently in, and what formats your devices are capable of playing natively (as if the device doesn't support the format natively, it will need to be transcoded in realtime to another format). It depends on what, how many, and what models of playback devices you have. It depends on how many of those devices will be playing simultaneously, and what they will be playing (will they all be playing different music that needs to be transcoded? Will one be playing an internet radio stream, while another plays local music only?). There are tons of variables that need to be taken into account... some have minor impacts, some have major ones. Mnyb;599652 Wrote: OS, sbs version , how many users shall use the web-Ui at the same time. How many and wich plugins some are CPU intensive. I can quantify all of these points. Worst case, I figure 4 devices (SB3, Boom, 2 Touches), playing ALAC, potentially simultaneously and independently. I'll assume that all of these devices will require transcoding at the server. All will be connected via LAN. Desktop machine would be based on Windows XP, running latest generally available version of SB Server -- 7.5.2, IIRC. Desktop machine would be dedicated to media streaming only -- no other gaming, web surfing, etc. iTunes would also be on this box, as would virus scanning software. No plans for MS Office, etc. I use the podcast and pandora plugins. I'm intrigued by the DRC / Inguz plugins, but I'm not far enough on the learning curve for those, yet. Should work OK, right? Thanks! -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] LAN connection via Cat 3?
Hi, I placed a Boom in a bedroom where the WiFi signal strength isn't the best, so I would like to pursue a wired connection. The room doesn't have Cat 5 cable run to it, but it does have a Cat 3 phone line. Can I terminate that Cat 3 cable with the appropriate LAN connector and be good to go? Distance from the switch is ~30 ft. Regards, Rob -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Q on File Formats
Hi, thank you for your prior responses. I have a followup question... Mnyb;598052 Wrote: ...What Squeezeboxserver does then is transcode alac to flac on the fly this will up your CPU load while playing depending on the spec of the laptop you may notice (or not). How much of a CPU load is this? Right now, if the laptop running SBS is running a virus scan, lots of websurfing, or other activities, the music stream does get interrupted. However, I cant tell if this is from processor overload or network bandwidth limitations. Right now, there are two SB's. I'd like to add 2 more. If the file format is mostly ALAC, implying server side transcoding, will this be an issue? I have a desktop tower that I repaired with an Athlon 64, running at 3.7 GHz with 2 GB RAM. Would this be a better (sufficient) choice? Thanks! -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Q on File Formats
Mnyb;599543 Wrote: Your laptop is it an windows machine look in the task manage while it's happening. If it is a linux or Mac use top in a Terminal window Hard to tell whats whats re transcoding I'm using a tiny 1,2GHZ via-epia mini-itx probably slower than your laptop it does not struggle much with this. But as it is my sbs server it does not do anything else . Having another machine running the servers sure speeds things up :-) Windows machine. Point noted - I would have expected that SBS would be a fairly light processing load, but this machine is no longer a clean install. The desktop proposal above would be clean, dedicated, and unattractive to use (no keyboard, mouse; just remote connection). Thanks! -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Differences between SBS 7.5.2 and 7.5.3 / 7.6?
slate;597932 Wrote: The 7.6.0 changelog http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.6/trunk/server/Changelog7.html That was helpful - thank you. I think I saw the stuck on mySB issue once or twice, which looks like it was addressed with 7.5.3. If it persists, I may upgrade. Regards, Rob -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84291 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Q on File Formats
Hi, My current setup is this: - SB3 connected via LAN - Boom connected via WiFi - Laptop running SBS, with media stored on a NAS, configured as a file server / disk backup - Music is managed via iTunes, with media stored as AIFF This generally works well, but it severely limits how much I can store on my iPhone, and I'm increasingly concerned with bandwidth consumption, especially over WiFi. What do I give up by going to ALAC as a file format? Is it worthwhile to have two libraries, one in ALAC, and the other in FLAC? My big concern here would be ease of use for other users (kids, wife, etc.). Regards, rob -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Q on File Formats
Mnyb;598052 Wrote: You wont give up a thing both ALAC and FLAC has very good tagging abilities and can have embedded artwork . All lossles formats sound the same btw (they are lossles as the name cleverly implies ;) ) so you wont give up anything. A while ago, I did A/B testing (but not ABX testing) between ALAC and AIFF, and I could not hear a difference. Mnyb;598052 Wrote: What Squeezeboxserver does then is transcode alac to flac on the fly this will up your CPU load while playing depending on the spec of the laptop you may notice (or not) . You may already do this aiff is probably transcoded to flac to minimise badwith use over wifi (depending on settings in sbs). Which may be why I couldn't hear a difference. I thought SB3's could decode AIFF files natively. Could you please direct to where/how to adjust the file type decoding settings to force this, verses transcoding at the server? I'd like to do some comparisons between AIFF AIFF; AIFF FLAC; ALAC FLAC. It took time to figure it out, but I like the iTunes integration, and I'm not in a hurry to have duplicate libraries unless there's a compelling reason to do so. Many thanks! -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Differences between SBS 7.5.2 and 7.5.3 / 7.6?
Hi, I'm curious if there's a listing of changes included for the 7.5.3 and 7.6 beta versions, relative to the latest generally available version of SBS. I have an SB3 and a Boom. Native decoding of ALAC would be nice... Thanks, Ro -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84291 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] iTunes and Configuration Q's
Hi, I have a SB Classic and Boom, connected via LAN. iTunes and Squeeze Server run on the same machine. All music files are stored on a separate WD NAS. This drive is mapped as a network drive. The NAS is treated as file storage only. One of the problems with this setup is that both iTunes and Squeeze Server seem to forget where the music is stored and reset back to a local drive folder. I can restore the connection, rescan, and all is good, but this is manual process that needs to be repeated frequently. The questions: - Under the iTunes tab, I selected the Use iTunes checkbox. But, how should iTunes Music Library.xml Location and iTunes Media Folder be specified? - How do I set this up such that the iTunes Music Library.xml can be read on the same machine where iTunes application and Squeeze Server reside, while referencing files stored on the NAS? - How do I set this up such that it stops resetting the locations for the library.xml and iTunes media folder? - Under the Basic Settings tab, what should the entries be for Music Folder and Playlists Folder? Thanks and regards, Rob -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83631 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Setup Questions for SB3
Hi, I have setup a new SB3, and am now having some issues. Here's the setup: - Linksys wireless router is setup via DHCP - SB3 is setup via LAN connection to router (not wifi) - SqueezeCenter is loaded on a Dell laptop. This may be connected via WiFi or via LAN - iTunes is loaded on the laptop, but configured to point to a Western Digital 0.5 TB NAS (a very basic model); I've given up on the notion of having a NAS run solo for the money I'm willing to spend. - NAS is mapped on the laptop as a network drive Here's the problem: - In general, it works fine. I can rip CD's to the NAS, see the files in a directory, and play them back from either iTunes (on the laptop) or on the SqueezeBox (via the SB3 or SqueezeCenter) - Using the wifi connection, once in a while the wireless router develops brain lock and drops out. When this happens, iTunes appears to update the ITL and XML files on the local harddrive, and not on the NAS drive - How can I restore the itunes library files on the network drive such that SB3 will rescan? Thanks! -- weinstro Regards, Rob weinstro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53023 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
