Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
garym;664911 Wrote: Sonos does a very good job with its products and its marketing as far as I can tell, but it is too limiting for me. Sorta the apple of networked music players. And don't get me wrong, I love my apple stuff for certain uses It's just a shame that Sonos is going from strength to strength and yet in the same market Squeezebox is struggling and the beginnings of the end are in sight. I blame the bugs and complexity, there's no way I'd recommend a Squeezebox to my parents its simply too unreliable. -- Owen Smith Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
Owen Smith;664973 Wrote: It's just a shame that Sonos is going from strength to strength and yet in the same market Squeezebox is struggling and the beginnings of the end are in sight. I blame the bugs and complexity, there's no way I'd recommend a Squeezebox to my parents its simply too unreliable. I find the basic Squeezebox setup very reliable. Any issues I have had have been due to wi-fi which I believe is resolved w router placement and tags that needed correcting. There are also issues that people run into due to plugins and enhancements but the basic system just works for me. There is a learning curve in getting ones library to where a Squeezerbox can reliabily access it but that I believe would be true w any streaming music player. I have 2000+ albums in my library and to me it is a joy to go to my Touch and access any artist without wondering just where in hell is that CD anyway. I do not want/need/use an Iphone or Ipad. I just use the basic remote and touchscreen and it works. Iam not a computer geek, and oh by the way, I am over 60. -- dasmueller dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
Owen Smith;664973 Wrote: It's just a shame that Sonos is going from strength to strength and yet in the same market Squeezebox is struggling and the beginnings of the end are in sight. I blame the bugs and complexity, there's no way I'd recommend a Squeezebox to my parents its simply too unreliable. generally agree, but I will say I set up a boom via WIFI for the 80+ year old mother of a friend and it has worked perfectly for over a year now. She uses it 10 hours a day. It is all connected to mysqueezebox.com and she only listens to internet radio from stations around the world. We setup the presets in advance. She pushes the preset, and it simply works. Admittedly, this is a simple use case another nontechy friend I suggested the RADIO and he uses it WIFI and mysb.com and only uses PANDORA. Again, for this simple use case it has been trouble free. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop SbS 7.6.2 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
maggior;664672 Wrote: If they do drop squeezeboxes, I guess I should take solice in the fact that I can drive 2 miles to my local Target and buy a Sonos system. :-(. But the Sonos only supports 44.1/16 tracks, there is no support for hi def files. I have quite a lot of 48/24 and some 96/24, this was the original reason I chose Squeezebox instead of Sonos. I'm now seriously into Triode's excellent BBC iPlayer plugin for the Squeezebox, I have no idea if anything similar exists on Sonos for iPlayer Listen Again. -- Owen Smith Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
Owen Smith;664894 Wrote: But the Sonos only supports 44.1/16 tracks, there is no support for hi def files. I have quite a lot of 48/24 and some 96/24, this was the original reason I chose Squeezebox instead of Sonos. I'm now seriously into Triode's excellent BBC iPlayer plugin for the Squeezebox, I have no idea if anything similar exists on Sonos for iPlayer Listen Again. Not to mention that the overall track limit is about 65,000 and may be less depending on the number of tags in the files. Not sure how it works, but there is some sort of optional way of using Windows Media Player to work around the 65k limit. I'm not sure there is anything like erland's dynamic playlist or sql playlist either. Sonos does a very good job with its products and its marketing as far as I can tell, but it is too limiting for me. Sorta the apple of networked music players. And don't get me wrong, I love my apple stuff for certain uses -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop SbS 7.6.2 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 2 years and counting
Hi It has been 2 years since the Radio and Touch announcements (sep '09), and still no sign whatsoever of any new hardware in the pipeline. Your guess is as good as mine, but is the SB hardware at the end-of-the-line or what ? -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490 home server SBReceiver -- NAD C162+C272 -- DALI IKON 6 (let's call it MidFi) finnbrodersen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17360 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
If you ask me: Yes, we are at the end. Now that the Revue and Squeezebox are getting fused together via Squeezebox-server/LMS, Logitech will kill Squeeze the day that they pull the plug on Revue. And that day is just around the corner. The only positive sign I see is that the few software developers still left are still working hard. But hey, the squeezeboxes still work, and will do long time after Logitech stops supporting them. -- Muele BR Mogens 2 Radios (1 battery), 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Softsqueeze (at work), SqueezeCommander and SqueezePlayer on Se X10 mini and HTC Desire. Served by an old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad (Yes I know most phones have more cpu-power these days, but it gets the job done). Muele's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
I hope the day doesn't come where I regret not stocking up on SB Touch's while they were cheap. If they do drop squeezeboxes, I guess I should take solice in the fact that I can drive 2 miles to my local Target and buy a Sonos system. :-(. I would love to see a touch screen based Boom, but I am skeptical I'll ever see that happen. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934 albums, 515 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
Muele;664648 Wrote: Now that the Revue and Squeezebox are getting fused together via Squeezebox-server/LMS, Logitech will kill Squeeze the day that they pull the plug on Revue. And that day is just around the corner. Interesting. I have a Revue and consider it to be a huge disappointment. Google seems poised to do a Google TV 2.0 relaunch. We'll have to wait and see whether Logitech rolls the dice on Google TV again. Either way, I fear we've seen the end of the audio-only squeezebox client. That would be unfortunate. But hey, the squeezeboxes still work, and will do long time after Logitech stops supporting them. I suspect that there's still a lot of churn left in the market for online streaming and cloud music services. Without active support, it's possible that our Squeezeboxes will never support the most popular music services 5 years from now. -- Mark Miksis Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
Mark Miksis;664676 Wrote: Interesting. I have a Revue and consider it to be a huge disappointment. Google seems poised to do a Google TV 2.0 relaunch. We'll have to wait and see whether Logitech rolls the dice on Google TV again. You do not have to wait for long, as LMS/SBS 7.7 is tied to Logitechs relaunch and update of the Revue... this month. I guess that the current silence on the code version tree is because the QA people are busy testing before the release... read: no new changes only bugfix if showstopper is found -- slate Main: Receiver (Audiocom) - Beresford Caiman+ (Gatorized) - Carver A-500x - BW 704 Office: Receiver - Luxman L-210 - Stax SR84 Pro/Superlux HD668B Server: Zotac IONITX-A, 4 GB, 1 TB WD EADS, Win7 w. 7.6 (SQLite w. High Mem) Tied together by D-Link DIR-655 + DGS-1008D slate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30502 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
Mark Miksis;664676 Wrote:
I suspect that there's still a lot of churn left in the market for
online streaming and cloud music services.
So do I and as long as there is a need someone is going to fill it, it
might be Logitech or it might be someone else, but if there is a market
someone is going to fill the need, that's how it works.
Mark Miksis;664676 Wrote:
Without active support, it's possible that our Squeezeboxes will never
support the most popular music services 5 years from now.
5 years is a very long time in this business, how many other music
players on the market can you guarantee works with the latest music
services 5 years in the future ?
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Re: [slim] 2 years and counting
erland;664683 Wrote: 5 years is a very long time in this business, how many other music players on the market can you guarantee works with the latest music services 5 years in the future ? Sure. My point was simply that the statement about squeezeboxes working for a long time without support may be true for individual libraries, but is not true for online services. -- Mark Miksis Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
