Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-15 Thread Paden

Hi bpa
Just to let you know I decided to rebuild LMS & downloaded the latest
image from max2play & all is now well with HiRes playback :-)
Just need to reconfigure it now :-(

Thanks for your help!

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-14 Thread bpa

I got my Odroid up and running max2play Ubuntu 14.04.  Didn't go through
the max2play registration etc but downloaded the LMS verison of flac and
sox for both soft and hard float and the transcoding chain worked
without any problems even with 5.1 flac files.

The flac version was 1.2.1 and sox was 14.3.0 and 14.3.1 (difference
between hard and soft float.

File sizes
soft float flac   458856 
hard float flac  420428 
soft float sox   2745048 
hard float sox  2458116 

You could download and replace sox and flac from LMS using these URLS 
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/raw/public/7.9/Bin/armhf-linux/sox
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/raw/public/7.9/Bin/armhf-linux/flac

Use wget to download and then "chmod +x" to make downloaded file
executable



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-14 Thread Paden

bpa wrote: 
> The command implies the format outputted by flac is not acceptable to
> sox or the pipe has failed.  I have tested the exact same command line
> on an Intel Ubuntu with LMS flac and sox and it works OK.  All I can do
> is try to fire up an Odroid with Max2play but I can't be sure when I can
> do it.
If you get a chance bpa that'd be great, no worries if you can't.
Hopefully I'll get a response from max2play at done point.
Thanks for your help & patience :-) 

Cheers, Paul

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread bpa

Reviewing some of the posts. Assuming trasncode chain works OK and you
can record from plughw:0 from a shell prompt.The issue might be
permissions.  Some distros require user to belogn to group such as audio
to access some hardware since LMS is being run by a different userid
perhaps it does not have required permissions.

Check difference in group memberships between the user id you run the
arecord and the userid which  runs LMS.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread Paden

bpa wrote: 
> I can't see where you ran the transcode chain I suggested in an earlier
> post
> 
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
> "/media/usb/FLAC/71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field.flac" |
> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
> -r 48000 - >output.flc
Sorry, must've missed that one :-) 
Will run it & post results.

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread bpa

Ignore the comments about plughw:0 and permissions - I've got mixed up
with two thread which have similar transcoding issues.

However testing the whole transcoding chain on an odroid is stilluseful.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> Hi bpa
> I managed to run the shell commands you mentioned previously & posted
> the results in post #45, were there some other commands I could run that
> might help?
> 
> Cheers, Paul
> 
> Sent from my SM-T710 using Tapatalk

I can't see where you ran the transcode chain I suggested in an earlier
post

/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
"/media/usb/FLAC/71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field.flac" |
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
-r 48000 - >output.flc



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread Paden

bpa wrote: 
> If odroid was too slow you would usually get burst of audio and periods
> of quiet as playback will only begin when enough audio has been sent to
> player and so LMS will wait for first chunk of transcoded audio.   Log
> indicates no output sent to player. Your symptoms is look more like a
> transcoding chain that is not working at all.  THinsg woudl be clearer
> if you could run a shell prompt.  I have an odroid somewhere but won't
> be able to spend enough time to get it up and running until the weekend.
Hi bpa
I managed to run the shell commands you mentioned previously & posted
the results in post #45, were there some other commands I could run that
might help?

Cheers, Paul

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread Paden

bpa wrote: 
> Ignore the comments about plughw:0 and permissions - I've got mixed up
> with two thread which have similar transcoding issues.
> 
> However testing the whole transcoding chain on an odroid is stilluseful.

Hi bpa
I ran that command & got the following:

> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
"/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac" |
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
-r 48000 - >output.flc
-bash: cd/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac -dcs --
/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac |
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
-r 48000 - >output.flc
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac: No such file or
directory
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox FAIL formats: can't open
input  `-': WAVE: RIFF header not found

Doesn't look good but is it any help?

19948


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> 
> > /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
> "/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac" |
> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
> -r 48000 - >output.flc

It looks like I dropped the leading " when I cut and posted from the
original post - it should be this
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
"/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac" |
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread Paden

bpa wrote: 
> It looks like I dropped the leading " when I cut and posted from the
> original post - it should be this
> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
> "/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac" |
> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
> -r 48000 - >output.flc

> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
"/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac" |
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
-r 48000 - >output.flc
-bash: cd/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac: No such file or
directory
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox FAIL formats: can't open
input  `-': WAVE: RIFF header not found
root@max2play:~#

:confused:

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> > "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
> "/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac" |
> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
> -r 48000 - >output.flc
> -bash: cd/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac: No such file or
> directory
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox FAIL formats: can't open
> input  `-': WAVE: RIFF header not found
> root@max2play:~#
> 

There is something wrong with how you are entering the command.  If I
enter this command at a shell prompt
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/i386-linux/flacx"

I get this response
bash: /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/i386-linux/flacx: No such file or
directory

Note on your response there is an additional "cd" so somewhow you are
doing a line continuation and joing two commands together "cd" and the
transcode chain command..



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread Paden

bpa wrote: 
> There is something wrong with how you are entering the command.  If I
> enter this command at a shell prompt
> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/i386-linux/flacx"
> 
> I get this response
> bash: /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/i386-linux/flacx: No such file or
> directory
> 
> Note on your response there is an additional "cd" so somewhow you are
> doing a line continuation and joing two commands together "cd" and the
> transcode chain command..
> 
> edit:
> 
> Are you typing in something like
> cd \
> 
> On Linux you only use "/" for directories and not "" as in Windows.  ""
> is the continuation char for bash.

That's exactly what I was doing, here's the response again:

root@max2play:~# "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/i386-linux/flacx"
-bash: /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/i386-linux/flacx: No such file or
directory
root@max2play:~# "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs
-- "/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac" |
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
-r 48000 - >output.flc
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox FAIL formats: can't open
input  `-': WAVE: RIFF header not found

Cheers, Paul



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-13 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> 
> root@max2play:~# "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs
> -- "/media/usb/FLAC/christopher_tree.flac" |
> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0
> -r 48000 - >output.flc
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox FAIL formats: can't open
> input  `-': WAVE: RIFF header not found

The command implies the format outputted by flac is not acceptable to
sox or the pipe has failed.  I have tested the exact same command line
on an Intel Ubuntu with LMS flac and sox and it works OK.  All I can do
is try to fire up an Odroid with Max2play but I can't be sure when I can
do it.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread Paden

No worries, I appreciate the help given thus far.
I'll copy the header when I finish work.

Cheers, Paul

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread Paden

Hi bpa
Managed to run the commands you mentioned earlier using PuTTY/ssh.
Both the flac & sox commands brought up help files.
The -a command line gave:

71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field HiRes.flac: done   
omplete

The letter "c" was missing, no other information was given.

19916
The log still complains about:
Rejecting - because required capability D not supported
Rejecting - because required capability T not supported

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread Paden

Yeah that particular file is 24/192, others I have that are 96kHz don't
play either.
Wouldn't the fact that the file plays fine through VLC indicate that the
file is valid?
19919
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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> Yeah that particular file is 24/192, others I have that are 96kHz don't
> play either.
> Wouldn't the fact that the file plays fine through VLC indicate that the
> file is valid?

Not necessarily VLC takes the approach to try at all costs to play a
file sometimes ignoring "standards" while LMS uses the "flac" decoder
which is rigourous and only play file that conform to flac standard.

What model Odroid are you using and what version of max2play ?



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread Paden

It's an Odroid U3 & max2play is version 2.27.

Cheers, Paul



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread Paden

Using "FLAC Frontend" all the files "test" OK.
Also the Christopher Tree file that JJZolx linked to earlier wont play
either but also tests OK.
Perhaps it's a hardware issue or the image I'm using has been corrupted,
I'll reburn the image when I get a moment to play.

Cheers, Paul



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread Paden

During playback there is silence from both my Classic or Boom & the time
indicator remains at zero, the progress bar of the web interface however
does advance.
It may well be that the Odroid isn't up to re-sampling.
I've posted in the max2play thread & will see what their thoughts are.
I'll post back here if I get a reply.
Thanks for your help.

Cheers, Paul



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> During playback there is silence from both my Classic or Boom & the time
> indicator remains at zero, the progress bar of the web interface however
> does advance.
> It may well be that the Odroid isn't up to re-sampling.

If odroid was too slow you would usually get burst of audio and periods
of quiet as playback will only begin when enough audio has been sent to
player and so LMS will wait for first chunk of transcoded audio.   Log
indicates no output sent to player. Your symptoms is look more like a
transcoding chain that is not working at all.  THinsg woudl be clearer
if you could run a shell prompt.  I have an odroid somewhere but won't
be able to spend enough time to get it up and running until the weekend.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread JJZolx

What actually happens during playback? Do you get noise or nothing at
all? In the web interface, does the progress bar advance or stay at
zero?

Is there any possibility that the Odroid just doesn't have the
horsepower to transcode and re-sample those files?



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> No worries, I appreciate the help given thus far.
> I'll copy the header when I finish work.

It would better if you analyse your file through the LMS flac  in case
there is an encoding issue. It doesn't have to be run on the odroid -
you could run flac on your laptop assuming you have a copy of the file
on your laptop.

Where to find Flac for your OS - if you are using windows pick up it up
from here
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/tree/public/7.9/Bin/MSWin32-x86-multi-thread



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

I've managed to get similar output to yours with an invalid Flac file.

Your post say the file is a 192Khz sampling rate - you seem to think it
is 96Khz ?

Is it 192kHz 1 channel rather than 96Khz 2 channel ?

How many bytes per sample ?  24 bit can be saved as zero filled 32 bit
samples but flac won't play 32 bit samples



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-10 Thread Paden

bpa wrote: 
> The log has a number of attempts when there should only be one - so I'm
> not sure whether LMS is having serious problems or whether you tried to
> play multiple file.
> 
> Did you try multiple times ?  If so please just do one file as asked and
> save in a plain text file not a word doc.
> 
> However, there is one occurance where LMS builds a command line and
> tries to run it.  Please check whether the follow program runs ok from a
> shell prompt.
> 
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox
> 
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > 16-02-09 23:24:44.3574] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (252)   
Found command: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t flac 
-C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  > [16-02-09 23:24:44.3581] 
Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (445) Matched: flc->flc 
via: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 
$RESAMPLE$ -
  > [16-02-09 23:24:44.3586] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder: 
streamMode=F, streamformat=flc
  > [16-02-09 23:24:44.3597] 
Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::tokenizeConvertCommand2 (616) Using command 
for conversion: "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs -- 
"/media/usb/FLAC/71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field.flac" | 
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 -r 
48000 - & |
  > [16-02-09 23:24:44.3603] Slim::Player::Song::open (558) Tokenized command: 
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs -- 
"/media/usb/FLAC/71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field.flac" | 
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 -r 
48000 - & |
  > [16-02-09 23:24:44.4792] Slim::Player::SongStreamController::new (31) live=1
  > [16-02-09 23:24:44.4811] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1277) 
00:04:20:12:11:4c: stream
  > [16-02-09 23:24:44.4881] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1314) 
Song queue is now 0
  > [16-02-09 23:24:44.4889] 
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2366) new playing state 
BUFFERING
  > 
  > 

> > 
> 
> edit:
> 
> You could test the LMS command to see if it runs ok
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs --
> "/media/usb/FLAC/71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field.flac" |
> "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C
> 0 -r 48000 - >output.flc
Sorry bpa, but how do I run a programme from the shell prompt?

Cheers, Paul

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> Sorry bpa, but how do I run a programme from the shell prompt?
> 
> Cheers, Paul
> 
> Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk

Just type the command at a shell prompt such as below - if it runs ok it
will output some help text about how to run flac
/USR/SHARE/SQUEEZEBOXSERVER/BIN/ARM-LINUX/FLAC
Then do the same for sox
/USR/SHARE/SQUEEZEBOXSERVER/BIN/ARM-LINUX/SOX
and then try to run flac on your file - thie "-a" will analyze your file
- the quotation marks are necessary as you space in the file name.

*/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac -a
"/media/usb/FLAC/71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field.flac"*



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> I'm using the 'max2play ' (http://www.max2play.com/en/features/)image,
> which is a pre-configured system, just add music.
> Access is via a browser based interface from my laptop, the Odroid
> itself is headless.

Can't help you as besides need to know what remote connection have been
configured, there will be usernames and paswords needed.

However, since the system is prebuilt and configured for the odroid
device and you haven't edited any of the LMS files - the problem must
lie with your flac file.

What are the details of the audio format ? No of channels ? sample rate
? sample size ? sample format ?



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

JJZolx wrote: 
> bpa, If you try it on your own system with default settings and no
> custom-convert file, you'll likely see the same thing in your server
> log. I just tried it myself and get much the same log output.

Looking in more detail - The "D" and "T" option are related to trying
the "-" rule (i.e. no processing) which fails because player needs
downsampling.

It seems to point back to either the flac or sox on the system don't
work properly or the file is not compatible with the flac app and/or LMS
requirements.   These possibilities can be tested easily from a shell
script prompt.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-10 Thread Paden

I'm using the 'max2play ' (http://www.max2play.com/en/features/)image,
which is a pre-configured system, just add music.
Access is via a browser based interface from my laptop, the Odroid
itself is headless.

Cheers, Paul



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-10 Thread Paden

Would I be using something like Putty to do this?

Cheers, Paul



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> Would I be using something like Putty to do this?

Depends on your system, how it is setup and how you access it.
You haven't given much detail on your system except that it is an Odoid,
Do you not have a screen and keyboard attached to the system ?



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread Paden

Mnyb wrote: 
> Yes if it's not it's usually when the platform does not support it , I
> did not read that you had an odriod , some of them should support SoX or
> ? Better ask someone with an odriod

Thanks again for your reply & the clear instructions Mnyb, no mention of
SoX in my log though:

[16-02-09 20:44:53.0051] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction
(271) 00:04:20:12:11:4c: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMOUT ->
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[16-02-09 20:44:53.0059] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction
(271) 00:04:20:1e:59:ec: StatusHeartbeat in STOPPED-IDLE ->
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_NoOp

I guess as you suggest the max2play/Odroid platform does not support
transcoding.
No worries, haven't got that many hi-res files so will transcode them
beforehand.

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread bpa

Paden wrote: 
> Thanks again for your reply & the clear instructions Mnyb, no mention of
> SoX in my log though:
> 
> [16-02-09 20:44:53.0051] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction
> (271) 00:04:20:12:11:4c: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMOUT ->
> Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
> [16-02-09 20:44:53.0059] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction
> (271) 00:04:20:1e:59:ec: StatusHeartbeat in STOPPED-IDLE ->
> Slim::Player::StreamingController::_NoOp
> 

This log looks like LMS made no attempt to play the file - so either the
log has been severely edited or there is a config error.

Give complete unedited log - sometime missing message indicate what is
happening so it is necessary to have all messages in order to see what
is missing.

I suggest the following.
1. Enable Player Source Audio & Conversion to DEBU
2. Note time.
3. Play the problem file.
4. wait at least 30 secs. and not etime.
5. Copy ALL message in server.log file between the time noted in 2 and 4
into a text file, zip and attach



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread Mnyb

Did we forget to ask this obvius question .

Have you changed any off the file types settings in LMS ?  are any of
the choices greyed out ? any custom rules ?




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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread Mnyb

Paden wrote: 
> Thanks again for your reply & the clear instructions Mnyb, no mention of
> SoX in my log though:
> 
> [16-02-09 20:44:53.0051] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction
> (271) 00:04:20:12:11:4c: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMOUT ->
> Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
> [16-02-09 20:44:53.0059] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction
> (271) 00:04:20:1e:59:ec: StatusHeartbeat in STOPPED-IDLE ->
> Slim::Player::StreamingController::_NoOp
> 
> I guess as you suggest the max2play/Odroid platform does not support
> transcoding.
> No worries, haven't got that many hi-res files so will transcode them
> beforehand.
> 
> Cheers, Paul

Ask in the max2play tread on some devices I think they do transcoding ,
some of the PI's people use can easilly do it ?




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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread d6jg

Mnyb wrote: 
> Ask in the max2play tread on some devices I think they do transcoding ,
> some of the PI's people use can easilly do it ?

max2play on a Pi can definitely transcode with no issue. I am sure it
should on Odroid also.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread bpa

JJZolx wrote: 
> Not sure why it would try multiple times on a single file (even though I
> always found that transcoding logging to be nearly indecipherable), but
> just checking to see whether the flac and sox binary executables are
> installed sounds like a very good idea.

Two earlier failures stating D or T capabilities not supported.

D means convert.conf transcode rule says  "can Downsample" and T means "
can start time offset"

Both T & D errors are strange and usually means the convert.conf file
has been edited or a custom-convert.conf is overriding the default.  The
entry should look like the following but space are critical and
extras/fewer spaces tabs can break the rule. Note the proper rule as T
and D capabilities.

Code:


  flc flc transcode *
  # FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
  [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 
$RESAMPLE$ - 
  
  




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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread bpa

The log has a number of attempts when there should only be one - so I'm
not sure whether LMS is having serious problems or whether you tried to
play multiple file.

Did you try multiple times ?  If so please just do one file as asked and
save in a plain text file not a word doc.

However, there is one occurance where LMS builds a command line and
tries to run it.  Please check whether the follow program runs ok from a
shell prompt.

/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox



Code:


  16-02-09 23:24:44.3574] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (252)   
Found command: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t flac 
-C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  [16-02-09 23:24:44.3581] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 
(445) Matched: flc->flc via: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t 
wav - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
  [16-02-09 23:24:44.3586] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder: 
streamMode=F, streamformat=flc
  [16-02-09 23:24:44.3597] 
Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::tokenizeConvertCommand2 (616) Using command 
for conversion: "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs -- 
"/media/usb/FLAC/71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field.flac" | 
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 -r 
48000 - & |
  [16-02-09 23:24:44.3603] Slim::Player::Song::open (558) Tokenized command: 
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac" -dcs -- 
"/media/usb/FLAC/71-Episode V - The Asteroid Field.flac" | 
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 -r 
48000 - & |
  [16-02-09 23:24:44.4792] Slim::Player::SongStreamController::new (31) live=1
  [16-02-09 23:24:44.4811] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1277) 
00:04:20:12:11:4c: stream
  [16-02-09 23:24:44.4881] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1314) 
Song queue is now 0
  [16-02-09 23:24:44.4889] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState 
(2366) new playing state BUFFERING
  
  




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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread Paden

bpa wrote: 
> This log looks like LMS made no attempt to play the file - so either the
> log has been severely edited or there is a config error.
> 
> Give complete unedited log - sometime missing message indicate what is
> happening so it is necessary to have all messages in order to see what
> is missing.
> 
> I suggest the following.
> 1. Enable Player Source Audio & Conversion to DEBU
> 2. Note time.
> 3. Play the problem file.
> 4. wait at least 30 secs. and not etime.
> 5. Copy ALL message in server.log file between the time noted in 2 and 4
> into a text file, zip and attach

Hi bpa
Thanks for the assistance, please find attached the log recorded while
playing a hi-res flac file. 
Most of it seems to repeated but if you search for the word "capability"
it'll highlight a few things that fail.
As far as I'm aware I haven't altered any of the "File Types" but have
taken a screen shot.

Cheers, Paul


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread JJZolx

Not sure why it would try multiple times on a single file (even though I
always found that transcoding logging to be nearly indecipherable), but
just checking to see whether the flac and sox binary executables are
installed sounds like a very good idea.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread Mnyb

This hires file it is 2ch rigth ?




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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-09 Thread JJZolx

bpa, If you try it on your own system with default settings and no
custom-convert file, you'll likely the same in your server log. I just
tried it myself and get much the same log output.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread Paden

JJZolx wrote: 
> I'm playing an album in 24/96 on my Transporter right now and it's being
> downsampled. If you want to debug it a little you can enable debugging 
> for conversions from the web interface by going to:
> 
> Settings > Advanced > Logging > (player.source) - Player Source Audio &
> Conversion Logging
> 
> and seetting it to 'Debug'. When I do that, I see this in my log file:
> 
> [16-02-08 16:21:45.5661]
> Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (446) Matched:
> flc->flc via: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t
> flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
> 
> This means it's using the Flac program to decode the flac file and then
> SoX to re-sample and re-encode. Perhaps those programs aren't installed
> on your system?
Hi JJZlox, thanks for the suggestion.
Should the SoX plugin installed by default?

Cheers, Paul

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread Mnyb

Paden wrote: 
> Thanks for the replies :-)
> I haven't altered any of the File Format Conversion settings & I'm
> running LMS on a max2play Odroid U3, going to a Classic.
> Do you think my best bet is to downsample it myself rather than trying
> to get LMS to?
> 
> Cheers, Paul

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread Mnyb

Paden wrote: 
> Hi JJZlox, thanks for the suggestion.
> Should the SoX plugin installed by default?
> 
> Cheers, Paul
> 
> Sent from my SM-T710 using Tapatalk

Yes if it's not it's usually when the platform does not support it , I
did not read that you had an odriod , some of them should support SoX or
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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread Paden

Hi all
Should the downsampling of 24-bit/96kHz material to 24-bit/48kHz occur
automatically or does something need to set?
I've been trying to play a 24-bit/96kHz vinyl rip but get nothing, not
even through LMS>
File plays fine through Foobar2000?

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread JJZolx

Paden wrote: 
> Should the downsampling of 24-bit/96kHz material to 24-bit/48kHz occur
> automatically or does something need to set?
> I've been trying to play a 24-bit/96kHz vinyl rip but get nothing, not
> even through LMS>
> File plays fine through Foobar2000?

Yes, it should play automatically with the default settings. Have you
fiddled with any of the Advanced > File Type > File Format Conversion
settings? Or added any custom conversion rules using a
custom-convert.conf file?



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread Mnyb

Paden wrote: 
> Hi all
> Should the downsampling of 24-bit/96kHz material to 24-bit/48kHz occur
> automatically or does something need to set?
> I've been trying to play a 24-bit/96kHz vinyl rip but get nothing, not
> even through LMS>
> File plays fine through Foobar2000?
> 
> Cheers, Paul

What player and what server ? If your server is at a very low powered
NAS for example SoX ( the downsampling app installed along LMS ) might
not run at all .




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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread Paden

Thanks for the replies :-)
I haven't altered any of the File Format Conversion settings & I'm
running LMS on a max2play Odroid U3, going to a Classic.
Do you think my best bet is to downsample it myself rather than trying
to get LMS to?

Cheers, Paul



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread JJZolx

Paden wrote: 
> Thanks for the replies :-)
> I haven't altered any of the File Format Conversion settings & I'm
> running LMS on a max2play Odroid U3, going to a Classic.
> Do you think my best bet is to downsample it myself rather than trying
> to get LMS to?

Did you say what type of files these are?

Try downloading and playing some 24/96 Flac files. If those play, yours
should play.

http://www.findhdmusic.com/high-res-audio/free-music/



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread garym

JJZolx wrote: 
> I'm playing an album in 24/96 on my Transporter right now and it's being
> downsampled. If you want to debug it a little you can enable debugging 
> for conversions from the web interface by going to:
> 
> Settings > Advanced > Logging > (player.source) - Player Source Audio &
> Conversion Logging
> 
> and seetting it to 'Debug'. When I do that, I see this in my log file:
> 
> [16-02-08 16:21:45.5661]
> Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (446) Matched:
> flc->flc via: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t
> flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
> 
> This means it's using the Flac program to decode the flac file and then
> SoX to re-sample and re-encode. Perhaps those programs aren't installed
> on your system?


Just curious, why is LMS downsampling 24/96 file for your Transporter?
Because your synched with another SB? Or did you mean 24/192 file.
Transporter handles 24/96.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread JJZolx

garym wrote: 
> Just curious, why is LMS downsampling 24/96 file for your Transporter?
> Because your synched with another SB? Or did you mean 24/192 file.
> Transporter handles 24/96.

Hmm... Good question. :)

It's a 24/96 file. I have the Transporter synced with a Radio. If I
unsync the Transporter, it doesn't resample. The Radio should be capable
of 24/96 too, so I'm not sure why it resamples for the combination.
:confused:



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread garym

JJZolx wrote: 
> Hmm... Good question. :)
> 
> They're 24/96 files. I have the Transporter synced with a Radio. If I
> unsync the Transporter, it doesn't resample. The Radio should be capable
> of 24/96 too, so I'm not sure why it resamples for the combination.
> :confused:

aha. That's it. The Radio can only do 24/48. So if synched, it would
downsample to 24/48. Only Touch and Transporter can do 24/96.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread JJZolx

garym wrote: 
> aha. That's it. The Radio can only do 24/48. So if synched, it would
> downsample to 24/48. Only Touch and Transporter can do 24/96.

Ah, Ok. I guess my memory isn't very good today.



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread Paden

Thanks again, yeah they are flac files.
I'll try the link you gave & see what happens :-)

Cheers, Paul



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2016-02-08 Thread JJZolx

I'm playing an album in 24/96 on my Transporter right now and it's being
downsampled. If you want to debug it a little you can enable debugging 
for conversions from the web interface by going to:

Settings > Advanced > Logging > (player.source) - Player Source Audio &
Conversion Logging

and seetting it to 'Debug'. When I do that, I see this in my log file:

[16-02-08 16:21:45.5661]
Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (446) Matched:
flc->flc via: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t
flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -

This means it's using the Flac program to decode the flac file and then
SoX to re-sample and re-encode. Perhaps those programs aren't installed
on your system?



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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-06 Thread Phil Leigh

EB1000;587350 Wrote: 
 Ok thanks alot. Can I use the Touch and the old SB3 under the same
 network/router but use different servers? I mean have the new Touch
 play music from one computer and the SB3 play music from another
 computer running another instance of SBS?

yes - they can use the same server or different servers. If you want to
sync them, they need to use the same server.


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-05 Thread EB1000

Thanks everybody

Looks like I'm up for an upgrade very soon, as I have many 24bit/96khz
albums. Can someone tell me which SB player is more suitable for hi-fi
use when you're sitting about 3 meters away from it (this is why I
don't think I need the Touch feature' since I'll only be using the
remote)

Thanks


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-05 Thread JJZolx

EB1000;587163 Wrote: 
 
 Looks like I'm up for an upgrade very soon, as I have many 24bit/96khz
 albums. Can someone tell me which SB player is more suitable for hi-fi
 use when you're sitting about 3 meters away from it (this is why I
 don't think I need the Touch feature' since I'll only be using the
 remote)

The Transporter is no longer made, so you don't have much of a choice. 
You don't have to use the Touch interface, as it comes with an IR remote
and similar remote capabilities of the older players.  However, not too
many people find the screen as usable from a distance as the screens on
the SB Classic and Transporter.


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-05 Thread Mnyb

+1

The Touch it is, it comes with ir just like the SB3 .

(and can be controlled by controllers smatphones web interfaces et al
just like the SB3).

Soundquality is said to be improved and it can stream 24/96 to a
suitable DAC.
It can also play those files trough it's own 24/96 Dac
But people with severe audiphilia seems to use external DAC's that
includes me ;)

When You are using the ir control it uses bigger text than in Touch
mode.
And you may have to tilt it forward to get a good viewing angle
depending on placement, but it's still not as visible as the old SB3.
But on the other hand it has screen savers with cover art .

It also has the possibilities to run it's own small server and play
directly from an USB drive, but I would not bet the farm on that this
works to anyones satisfaction, your own server will still be the best
way to use this player.

And squeezeboxes multiply you will probably find another room for the
SB3 :)


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-05 Thread EB1000

Mnyb;587184 Wrote: 
 +1
 
 
 And squeezeboxes multiply you will probably find another room for the
 SB3 :)

Ok thanks alot. Can I use the Touch and the old SB3 under the same
network/router but use different servers? I mean have the new Touch
play music from one computer and the SB3 play music from another
computer running another instance of SBS?


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[slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-03 Thread EB1000

Hi

I just noticed when I play a 24bit/96khz flac file on my SB classic'
the file info says that the bitrate was changed from 1387kbs to
704kbs.. what gives? can the SB classic output  a true 24bit/96khz pcm
signal from a flac file through the spdif digital output? or does it
downscale it to 16bit 44.1khz?

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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-03 Thread Mnyb

It's downscaled to 24/48 the 704kb info is bogus a cosmetic bug that
nobody fixes.

24/192 and 24/96 is downscaled to 24/48

24/172.4 and 24/88.2 is downscaled to 24/44.1

Note that a squeezebox always output 24bit at 100% volume so 16bit
sources are padded to 24bit, this is withing the spdif standard, older
dac's discards the extra bit's .


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-03 Thread JJZolx

No, the Squeezebox Classic doesn't support 96kHz playback.  Only the
Transporter, Touch and Radio do.  So the server downsamples the
24-bit/96kHz material to 24-bit/48kHz.  It makes sense that the
streaming bitrate would be approximately halved when going from 96kHz
to 48kHz.

The bitrate reported is always the streaming bitrate, by the way, not
the bitrate of the actual material.  So a CD compressed using Flac, for
instance, where the audio is originally 1411 kbps is reported at the
compressed rate, usually somewhere around 50-70% of that.


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-03 Thread andyg

Note that Radio is also only 24/48.  Transporter and Touch are the only
devices that support up to 24/96.


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Re: [slim] 24bit 96 khz flac support?

2010-11-03 Thread JJZolx

andyg;586936 Wrote: 
 Note that Radio is also only 24/48.  Transporter and Touch are the only
 devices that support up to 24/96.

Thanks for the correction.


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